Vox Day on SJW Voting Blocs in the Hugo Awards

[Marina]

The critic is certainly coming off as a moderate, but I don't know much about him except that he's annoying.

I certainly don't condone using F-bombs as filler, but this particular verbiage was more than deserved in context of the blog and of ALL the things to criticize… SMH.

[Henry]

Can you give us a link Masha?

[Marina]

Sure thing. I didn't share it here originally because we know the story, but it's a good factual summary. Share at will.

http://tlknighton.com/?p=7035

[Marina]

There's also this one that is limited in scope, but I particularly love it for turning the tables on the a-holes who cry racism at the man with a multi-racial family. Again, sharing appreciated.

http://tlknighton.com/?p=7032

[Jack]

Henry wrote: "Can you give us a link Masha?"

If you are interested I will be having Tom Knighton, Mathew Bowman, Sarah Hoyt and Brad Torgerson himself on my radio show Wednesday night. You can call in and talk to him, ask questions etc. If anyone here has something they want me to ask him let me know.

http://tobtr.com/s/7512631

[Marina]

Whoa, I didn't know you got Brad to come on! Make a separate thread, Jack. This is huge.

[Jack]

Masha wrote: "Whoa, I didn't know you got Brad to come on! Make a separate thread, Jack. This is huge."

Sometimes you just have to ask.

[Henry]

Heck yeah I'm interested.

[Marina]

Vox Day came out with a blog post today addressing some of the accusations. Just passing it on. I'm not defending him wholesale, but some of the most outrageous stuff he supposedly said has just gone out the window. Context is a b1tch.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/04/ma...

[Diane]

This was illuminating to me. I will now go and find Vox' books and read them . And as for GRRM, he'd make better use of his time by *finishing A Song of Ice and Fire!* Else I'll be forced to place him in the same category as ROBERT JORDAN!

[Marina]

I've heard good things about Throne of Bones which I think is supposed to be a semi-parody of GRRM.

[Marina]

LOL this one is even better than the last.

BTW, with all the angst about people getting disqualified and withdrawing:

1. A Sad Puppies nom got replaced by someone from Rabid Puppies. 2. Marco Kloos' novel got replaced by The Three Body Problem, an anti-Communist work that Vox Day openly praised. (It didn't make RP slate because Vox didn't have time to read it before putting the slate together.)

[Henry]

Vlad wrote: "By the way, how the hell did I miss this hilarious little gem?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXxNO..."

Ha! That one's even better.

[Marina]

Ooookay. Apparently Vox Day is a Zionist. My head hurts.

And Eric Flint is a Commie a-hole. Sorry, but it had to be said.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2015/05/er...

[Henry]

I saw that, too, and my head hurt. Every time I've read Vox mention something about Israel or the Jews (except when it comes to IQs and demographics) I got the exact opposite impression.

[Marina]

Well, he's an isolationist, so he's not hot on spending $$ on Israeli defense, which puts him on equal footing with 90% of libertarians. The nearest I could find written by HIM is that Jews should appreciate how good they got it in the States (true) and leftist Jews have caused a sh!tload of trouble in the world (also true if you go by ethnicity rather than religious observance- Marx was a Jew by birth but an atheist.)

Where I part with him is on conflating race/ethnicity with culture, but that's not specific to Jews.

[Henry]

I can't argue with that. In fact, our handouts to Israel's enemies far exceed our aid to Israel, so Ron Paul's halt of foreign aid would have been a net Israeli gain.

But I've read some posts by Vox where he basically says Jews don't belong in the US or Europe, so they should get the heck out. Rubbed me the wrong way. And when he got his Israeli historian acquaintance to write about the Middle East, it was yet another hit piece on Israel. It struck me that way, the part of it I read.

[Marina]

Oh OK. I don't read a lot of his geopolitical stuff since he pretty much has given up on Western Civ. But this came up in context of Rabid Puppies so I was going "WHAT?" BTW I think he's doing an outstanding job in that campaign, even though many on my side don't care for his methods.

[Henry]

The Zionist claim really blew me away, 'cause I've never read him being supportive of Israel in any way.

But then, these days, when a rant or screed chaps my hiney, I usually quit reading it.

[Marina]

Heh. Me too, for the most part. As far as I'm concerned being an anti-Semite of any flavor has zero bearing on him being effective for other purposes, whether it's #GamerGate or publishing awesome books or winning the Hugos for authors I like (which he just might pull off when the kinder, gentler Puppies would not.) It's just odd, like some of his other views and the way he chooses to present them (women shouldn't vote, and neither should most men, but 99% of the time he only mentions women.)