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DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I don't believe in talismans per say but like, Jenny above, I do believe in comfort or sentimental items.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I am not a fan of alternating views but if an author insists on doing it, the fewer views the better.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I don't trust him. There is something off about this man. After reading Agnes' story just makes this man more questionable. I have lots of alarm bells when it comes to him.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
Maybe. It depends because women can (and did during that time period) die during childbirth. However, when magic is involved curses can not be discounted.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
I was totally shocked about who her mother is. Her father is less of a shock to me but certainly one to her.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
Why not? It gives that sense of connection to the original story when they use the same names. I like when the author uses the same names.
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My OwnWee Thing"
6.Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I do not believe in talismans but I also that’s because of culture and the world I live in. If we were more isolated and lived in a different world I could see needing to believe in an object to keep you safe.
7.Between some of the
chapters narrated from Jane's point of view, we get chapters from Rochester's point of view.
What do you think of these
"interludes"? Do they help or distract?
I listened to the audio and the makes voice did make it distracting because the narrator sounded so much older than Rochester’s character. But if I disregard that, I would B say I loved it. Rochester was my favorite character and hearing his side was fun. His attitude was come what may to his situation.
8. We are introduced to Dr.
Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes' conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I felt from the beginning that Dr Poole was up to no good and couldn’t be trusted.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on
Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says
"This was a story of heartache.
Everyone in Mr. Rochester's family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same." Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
I feel like the curse affected all female descendants. And accelerated Rochester late wife’s condition.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
I loved finding her mother was a fairy and at Forest I was like Whaaat? And then I’m like ok it’s gonna be that type of book and was happy to just go with it. My favorite part of the book was her father seeing her off and acknowledging her as his daughter.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane
Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs.
Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using same names in retellings? I have not read the original so I can only assume it’s weird. I would think you have read this historical novel and then reading this would make it harder to enjoy and go with the flow of fairies and witches and curses.
Cat- District 7DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own
Wee Thing"
6.Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I do not believe in talismans but I also that’s because of culture and the world I live in. If we were more isolated and lived in a different world I could see needing to believe in an object to keep you safe.
7.Between some of the
chapters narrated from Jane's point of view, we get chapters from Rochester's point of view.
What do you think of these
"interludes"? Do they help or distract?
I listened to the audio and the makes voice did make it distracting because the narrator sounded so much older than Rochester’s character. But if I disregard that, I would B say I loved it. Rochester was my favorite character and hearing his side was fun. His attitude was come what may to his situation.
8. We are introduced to Dr.
Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes' conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I felt from the beginning that Dr Poole was up to no good and couldn’t be trusted.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on
Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says
"This was a story of heartache.
Everyone in Mr. Rochester's family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same." Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
I feel like the curse affected all female descendants. And accelerated Rochester late wife’s condition.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
I loved finding her mother was a fairy and at Forest I was like Whaaat? And then I’m like ok it’s gonna be that type of book and was happy to just go with it. My favorite part of the book was her father seeing her off and acknowledging her as his daughter.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane
Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs.
Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using same names in retellings? I have not read the original so I can only assume it’s weird. I would think you have read this historical novel and then reading this would make it harder to enjoy and go with the flow of fairies and witches and curses.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I have read it and liked it, but it’s not my favorite and I don’t remember the details.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I don’t go out of my way looking for retellings, but I have read and liked a few.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
The magic makes the story feel less bleak to me. I like that Jane has power in this world!
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I like them both. Jane is a bit impulsive and Rochester is only a little grumpy and mostly considerate. I’m not sure I feel the romance yet, though.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
A bit of both, I think. I believe that a real person must have set fire to that protective tree, but there is also the curse that Jane felt.
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1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I've read it a couple of times and liked it better on the second retelling. Charlotte is less geared to angst ridden teens than Emily (and Anne even less so!) That said, none of the Bronte's had particularly attractive menfolk, in favour of willful women.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
Yeah, I've read a few (just come off from a retelling of the House of Usher which was good). I'm always interested in a retelling that shows the material in a different way - feminist takes on the old myths, or putting classics into a different culture. Not sure that this is one that is necessary though - I'm liking it so far, but the retelling seems more like a lazy way to tell a story without having to do the thinking about characters and location.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I like the alternate setting.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
Fine. Though I'm not sure I believe in them beyond the knowledge from the original.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
Human action
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6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I certainly believe that many people get value from items like that, but my stuff doesn't come with protection, unless it's that of happy memories....
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
They are certainly helping towards making his being in love with her and standoffish.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
Deeply sus about Richard Poole, and I did like the foreshadowing about Mrs R
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
Entirely possible, and Rochester certainly thinks so!
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
ummmm.... not sure it was necessary? but maybe it will be a good turning point?
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
Not really. Sometimes I get superstitious about things but at the end of the day I know it’s not real.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I don’t really know what they add to the story; I already feel like the entire book is largely pointless because truly what is the difference to the original except there’s some vague witchy magic which I really would prefer doing without.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
Suspicious! I don’t trust anyone, nobody’s saying the whole truth about anything here.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
This has nothing to do with your question but every time someone uses the word females instead of women I throw up in my mouth a little. Way to reduce people to biological sex. But yes, I there does seem to be a connection.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
What a special snowflake Jane is… I despise faeries so I hate every facet of this. I assume this is the explanation for why she can do magic?
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I think it’s fine to do, but really, I wish people just posted their fanfiction on the internet instead of turning it into books. Maybe this story would be more interesting if we were left to guess a little bit which characters take on which role from the original.
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That’s exactly how I feel about this one. It has been a disappointment so far
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I just finished. This isn't a retelling, at all, it is a butchering. Sorry - tried to like it but they took out what made the book memorable changing the whole idea of the story.
Stacey wrote: "I just finished. This isn't a retelling, at all, it is a butchering. Sorry - tried to like it but they took out what made the book memorable changing the whole idea of the story."I agree with you. I would have given it 2.5 stars if we could do that, but I rounded up because I liked the narrator's voice.
Stacey wrote: "I just finished. This isn't a retelling, at all, it is a butchering. Sorry - tried to like it but they took out what made the book memorable changing the whole idea of the story."Yes, but it is miles better than The Malevolent Seven! 😆
I'm not sure I'd have finished if this wasn't a Jane Eyre fanfic.
Also, I'm thinking of adding 'butchering' as a genre shelf on GR.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I have to be honest. I have not read the original (and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it!).
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I like retellings in general. I like to see what twists and turns authors can come up. A spin on the original can be a fun and interesting read (although there have been some that I haven't loved).
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I like the setting. It's a great idea. I feel like we haven't had a chance to learn much about the school itself at this point though.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
Well, I definitely feel her attraction to him (as well as her feelings of intimidation when she is near him). It seems that he doesn't know how to handle his own thoughts about her at this point. He clearly is drawn to her but I don't think he necessarily wants to be.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I want to say human of course but since Jane discovered the Sprite fairy under the burned tree I may be leaning more towards the supernatural elements.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I read and really liked it - as a teenager. I wonder what I'd think now! I certainly don't remember a whole lot, just the general plot.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I don't mind retellings and read various ones every year. It can be fun to think about beloved stories in a different light.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I liked this idea - a smallish change. I would have loved to see more of the school.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I like them both. And I'm curious about what will happen.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I think the occurrences are something supernatural - but I'm not sure what.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn 1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I love Jane Eyre; it healed my totally broken heart after ending my college relationship. I fell in love with the image of Jane as a girl, curled up in a plush red velvet window seat overlooking the dark, moody moors.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I think I like them more than I realize! I don't tend to seek them out, but enjoy them when I read them.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I love the idea of a magical school, but I thought it was surprising how quickly we moved on from the school to Thornfield!
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I honestly am loving their first interaction... I like the reimagining of his crabby nature / broken heart. I am interested to see how their relationship progresses.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I am hoping for a supernatural twist on the plot line of the original story :)
Qs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I don't really keep anything with myself like that - lol although these days I'd argue that the majority of people keep their phone with them as a talisman. Hmm...so on that note - maybe it's my kindle. As far as being emotionally centered, it's my dog.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I was glad the interludes were there - I wanted to see what Rochester was thinking.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I trusted him at the very first, but then was pretty suspicious of him being in the poison garden. Then after Agnes mentioned him, I'm SUPER suspicious of him! And I hope everyone watches what they eat.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
Maybe? But also, given the times and child/mother mortality, maybe it's just that.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
I was surprised but loved the twist!
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I don't really care either way - but since I'm not super familiar with the original names this time it probably is good to see them.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I read Jane Eyre several times, probably starting at around 13 years old. I loved it!
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
It's a genre I read for challenges. I don't go out of my way to avoid one if I happen to pick it up, but I also don't seek them out.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I find it fascinating. I want to go back a little further and find out why, in this world, witchcraft is now accepted/tolerated, if not warmly embraced.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I couldn't help but compare them to their literary forebears. There is definitely less of a power gap between these two than between the originals.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I assume supernatural roots from the beginning.
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Agreed
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I have an hour left and it is painful at this point
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I don't believe in talismans as talismans. But I do believe in comfort items! Does my Kindle count? :)
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I found the first one startling, probably because I was listening to the audio and there was suddenly a male voice. I think they help. It is fun to have some knowledge that Jane doesn't have access too.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I had a problem with Dr. Poole. My problem was that I keep picturing Tim Curry in the old movie 'Oscar'. And hearing Sylvester Stallone say, "Dr. Poole was right. You are an ox. And a moroon." And then I just couldn't process Dr. Poole properly after that.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
At this point, I didn't believe there was a curse. But I could see how looking at those lifespans/early deaths, a person could fixate on it and decide they are cursed.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
It seems like a bit much. It's one thing to find her mother. That shows that she has been drawn to this place. But to make her father a character that we were shown as totally unlikeable, with no redeeming qualities? I didn't like that.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I think it works here. I usually don't mind it.
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I'm not sure if I believe in talismans and I don't have any.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I wish there was more from Rochester.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
The exchanges make me think he may have had something to do with Antoinette's death.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
No, I don't think there is a curse
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
Very interesting!!
Sorry to be late with these! I wanted to read the whole book first.1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
Jane Eyre is my favorite book of all time. Has been since I read it in high school. I'm at the point of being able to quote large parts of it by heart
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I like retellings, as long as they are well-written. I've read Adèle by Emma Tennant as well as Wide Sargasso Sea and Jenna Starborn and enjoyed those Jane Eyre retellings.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
It's an interesting take on Lowood School and Jane as a teacher. It's even more interesting that Mr. Brocklehurst is still a tight-fisted pain but he allows this to go on. The author had to make it less strict and forbidding in order to make the school of magic part seem realistic.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
Jane is 30, so much older than in the Bronte novel. She has the real power in the relationship. She has the skills to heal and solve problems. Rochester isn't as interesting in my opinion, as his was in "Jane Eyre." He's not as eloquent or as forceful.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I'd say it is a bit of both. If a human hadn't meddled with something they didn't fully understand, then the severest supernatural occurrences likely wouldn't have happened. At least not during Rochester's lifetime.
6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I have a little silver 'good luck' ring that I bought in a little church next to the Kremlin in Moscow. It has a blessing in Cyrillic engraved on the inside.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
They give Rochester more of a voice, if not much more of a personality. They do fill in some blanks in the plot and move it along.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
When Poole came on the scene, I was sure that Antoinette was shut up somewhere in the house and Poole was blackmailing Rochester. I also thought he was going to poison Rochester as soon as Jane was gone.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
I figured the mother's and daughters' were suspicious. I also wondered if Antoinette was poisoned too, perhaps accidentally.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
I actually like this twist. It made Brocklehurst more human and who doesn't want a cool fairy for a mother? Also, Rochester refers to Jane as a fairy or fey in the original novel, so this is a clever way to build on that.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
It's a good way to keep the link with the original novel. I would have liked the author to include Adele as a character. It would be interesting to see how she was handled in the retelling.
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I'm not sure I believe in them to ward off evil per se, but I do think there are objects that will give you comfort or reassurance when you need. I had a cross bracelet that I wore to all of my infusions for cancer treatment.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I don't know that they add much to the greater storyline, but its nice to get a different POV at times to break it up.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I thought he was sketchy in the poison garden and I still think something is off about him after the discussion with the maid. Not sure if its any more diabolical that him being unnaturally attached to her or not.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
I'm not sure, since we haven't gotten any family history older than the most recent death. If its a curse, it apparently predates the current Mr. Rochester.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale? TBH its silly. A big eyeroll moment for me.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I don't necessarily mind it -- its a retelling after all.
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
Not really
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I like them, it is good to see his POV
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I've thought Agnes and Jane were involved since the beginning. It is very weird for the Dr. to have stayed, so he is currently my choice of villain
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
possibly
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
(view spoiler)
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I've never read the original
DQs Day 2 - Baneful-"My Own Wee Thing”6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I often create spell satchets like Jane does here. I love the information on the magical properties of herbs and trees.
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I actually quite like these. They offer a nice line of continuity.
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
I love the poison garden, but Dr. Poole has bad energy. I am interested to find out if he accidentally killed Mrs R trying to save her.
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
i despise the author's use of the word female... But feel indifferent to the idea of a curse. I don't think there's enough left in the story to resolve this in a way that is significant *and* explain the haunting.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
i hated it at first, like truly worried it might've turned me off to the book, but i may be coming around. It's intriguing, at the very least. I also think the part about Rochester having been present the night of her conception is icky. I don't understand why Jane needs a tangible connection to Thornfield like this.
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
I think it's essential for people to make connections to the original story. I really enjoyed reading Mrs. Fairfax as a country witch, and her parlor space may be my favorite in the new Thornfield Manor.
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing 11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
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11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
It was all leading up to a haunting by Mrs Rochester really so not surprising. I'm thinking there must be more to her death for such a bitterness to the haunting, it seems a bit extreme if she was feeling such acrimosity because of an arranged marriage which was par for the course in this time period.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
In the original when Jane finds out about Mrs Rochester being still alive and locked in the attic she flees to the cottage of St John Rivers and his sisters. So this is quite different from the original. It's actually quite mild in comparison to all the unleashed feelings in the original. Why did she make it Mr Rochester's choice maybe to highlight the lack of power Jane has in the situation? The opposite to the original really.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I love historic homes especially in the UK and visited quite a lot and many have cottage gardens still attached. The one that stands out is the Poison Garden attached to Alnwick Castle in Northumberland, UK - where the first couple of Harry Potter's were filmed. It was amazing.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
It was reasonable again a bit of pale imitation in comparison to the scene in the original when Mr Rochester disguises himself as the fortune teller.
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11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
Rochester went conveniently quickly from no curse here, daft yokels to of course I've always known there's a curse!
And his full honesty is lacking something. Dead wife being excessively cross because of an arranged marriage is not realistic, so he's hiding something, or is very stupid about Poole. I don't buy either the generic all Rochester women die young (defining Rochester women very oddly, if Jane's at risk) or the Antoinette is haunting because she didn't like dying so young line.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
I've already mentioned that I found this change to do a massive disservice to the original Jane and also this one. It removes her agency and the moral strength she has to do what is right despite her emotions. I think the author actually doesn't care that much about the original characters, but used them as scaffolding to tell her story about ghosts and fairies, so there's less work for her to do.
As a story by itself I think it's ok, though with some stupidity around instalove. As a retelling it's a fail.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I've not, but a wander around stately house gardens is always a pleasant time.
I am in no way green fingered, even aside from having no outside space or safe window box possibilities, do no.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
This scene, with it's continued mentions of how short a time she'd been there, threw up for me how the changes from being governess to a paranormal trouble solver weakens the story. You don't go from Rochester is grumpy to oh, but his surface hides the truth I love him in two days, regardless of how much spying on his family history there is. So the whole grow to love each other despite stuff story has been destroyed, and only works by relying on our goodwill from the original.
So this exists only to allow a sudden volte face for Rochester that I don't believe.
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11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
I thought it was pretty obvious that she would be the one haunting. The whole arranged marriage / they all die young thing seems a bit flimsy
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
I lost any enjoyment of the book (not that I had a huge amount) at this point. That is Jane's character and strength in the original that she makes her own decision.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
No, but it sounds super interesting. I visited gardens in Thailand last year where the locals grow all their local produce and then we cooked it up. That was great
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
Urgh. I found the insta-love with Jane and Rochester quite irritating. From here on in the book was a toil
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
There were some hints leading up to this point in the story to be guessed, though not the full picture.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
I thought it was a bad decision of the author to move the plot forward and had weakened Jane's and Rochester's characters even further, when they were not strong in the first place. It thought it was all very MEH.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I have never visited an apothecary garden, though we have an apothecary museum in my hometown where various herbs are always on display in pots. I would love to do visit a garden like this if given the chance.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
Once again this felt like a forced move on the author's side to try and make stronger ties to the original book. I didn't do much for me and did no services to Rochester's character in my eyes, especially as the explanation/excuse was very weak and contrived. Also, their connection very much depends on telling, not showing. There is no chemistry between them at all.
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing 11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
I wasn’t really surprised, it was obvious Antoinette would be haunting the house. I agree with what Cat said, very strange definition of “Rochester women” here.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
I think it’s very odd how the author seems to be insistent on taking the blame off Mr. Rochester. Kind of ruins the point when he doesn’t do something inconceivably awful. Also considering she tries to portray Jane as so independent, it’s weird to take away her big moment of agency.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I’ve been to several botanical gardens that had sections like that. We have a bunch of herbs for cooking on the balcony and I really do like that.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
Felt kind of unnecessary like many other scenes in this. I don’t get why they’re in love and mostly it’s making me cringe.
Did anyone else flinch at "the idea that Mr Rochester could've been there on the night I was conceived was both mortifying and... intriguing” (or whatever it was, I don't have a physical copy to double check the quote)? lmao
Judy wrote: "Did anyone else flinch at "the idea that Mr Rochester could've been there on the night I was conceived was both mortifying and... intriguing” (or whatever it was, I don't have a physical copy to do..."UUGGHHH!
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Can't believe that in a paranormal retelling she ignores the ONLY paranormal event in the original book! Oh, no, wait. Yes, I can. Le sigh
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DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
Yes, I have read the original and really liked it. I love the gothic feel of the original and I have also watched the film a few times which I also really enjoyed.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
Depends on the type of re-telling. I don't necessarily look out for them but if it sounds interesting I will give it a go. I am usually left disappointed with how they turn out.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I am not sure how I feel about this angle to be honest. I think this is because I like the original, I don't quite know where this one is going.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
They are obviously very different to the originals, from personality and description. So far I can't really see a connection between the two of them so I am interested to see how their relationship develops.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
So far, I personally think they are human actions causing the disturbances at Thornfield. Possibly made to look like supernatural results.
1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?I've read it and loved it.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
Honestly, I usually avoid. It's very rare I don't find them disappointing.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
I like it. It isn't suddenly a world where magic is over-the-top and everywhere, but it has a more subtle flavour.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
No strong impressions as yet. Neither are jumping out at me as particularly well-developed characters so far.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
Judging by the paranormal MPG, I'm gonna go with supernatural.
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
I honestly find it a bit disappointing, because it was so obvious pretty much from the very beginning.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
It makes sense that Edward sent everyone away; he didn't want anybody (else) to get hurt, and especially with his developing feelings for Jane it was the best he could do. He forgot that he had Jane come there to help with whatever was going on though, so as a witch I guess if someone could have worked this out, it was Jane.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I've never been to an Apothecary's Garden and don't think they even exist around here, but I would love to stroll through one and find out what everything is used for. Unfortunately I don't have a green thumb at all and also don't cook much, so no growing herbs for me at this point.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
That was so dumb, honestly, wtf!!! I was SO annoyed with Rochester here and don't think I could have forgiven it as easily as Jane did.
Didn't take me long to realise this book was written by an American. Aside from the spellings... Cream in coffee? Ew! 😆 (and never particularly popular in the UK. In the rare cases it was used, it would at the time have been more likely in the dairy-heavy south, not the industrialised north of the country)Either way, just the thought of fatty coffee makes me feel queasy! 😂
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I have read it this year and I can’t say that I cared for it. I was hoping to love it but I just didn’t. Now, I don’t remember all that much of it.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I like retellings. I don’t usually seek them out but if I happen to come across one, I usually enjoy it.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
Actually, I really like this. So far, I’m enjoying this far more than Jane Eyre. I like witchy stuff and the Victorian era, so this might be a great read for me.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I like that Jane is someone who needs to get told to behave. Rochester I’m not sure yet, something seems fishy.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
Maybe it’s both? I don’t think that it’s the work of a supernatural being alone but it might have to do with human actions with supernatural consequences.
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing 11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
As with most of the revelations in this book, the hints or the direct correlation to the original make them not so revelatory.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
Probably to just add some tension where there wan't enough. I don't think it added anything.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I try to grow herbs, but I am bad at keeping them alive. I have visited a lot of gardens, but not an apothecary garden. That would probably be very cool.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
I don't think consistency is the author's goal here.
DQs Day 4 - "Love Has Come to Mean Death" - end15. I personally haven't read Jane Eyre and therefore can't compare the two books which makes me feel a bit regretting, but then again so many of y'all don't seem to like this as a retelling. Do you think you'd feel differently about the book depending on whether you've read Jane Eyre or not, and do you want to pick up Jane Eyre now if you haven't yet? What if you hadn't been aware of this being a retelling and the characters had different names?
16. I was secretly hoping that Agnes had romantic feelings for Antoinette and that she was more involved in the last part of the book, but alas it was Dr. Poole. No big surprise there. Has your opinion of him changed in any way after he "confessed" and tried to help Jane and Edward? And if you could bring someone back from the dead, would you do it? Theoretically you wouldnt be aware of any consequences, but logically I think we've learned that there's always consequences...
17. Jane came back for Edward and saved him of course, and now they're living happily ever after. How do you feel about them as a couple, and is there anything you would have changed about these last couple of chapters as the author or simply just a fan of the original work?
18. Was this your first book written by Sharon Lynn Fisher, and do you think you'll be reading more by the author? Were your original expectations met? Anything else you want to add?
Bonus for everyone but especially those who have read Jane Eyre before: I challenge you to say at least one good thing about Salt & Broom - other than "it ended!!" lol :b
DQs Day 4 - "Love Has Come to Mean Death" - end15. I personally haven't read Jane Eyre and therefore can't compare the two books which makes me feel a bit regretting, but then again so many of y'all don't seem to like this as a retelling. Do you think you'd feel differently about the book depending on whether you've read Jane Eyre or not, and do you want to pick up Jane Eyre now if you haven't yet? What if you hadn't been aware of this being a retelling and the characters had different names?
If I choose to read a retelling, now I am trying to treat it rather as an "inspired by " book. I also consider, whether the book would work on its own and if it's a yes, I tend to look on it more favourably.
I think this book would have been better on its own with totally different names, b/c the author is obviously not up to imitating the original in the least, apart from taking some names and a few, crude plot points.
16. I was secretly hoping that Agnes had romantic feelings for Antoinette and that she was more involved in the last part of the book, but alas it was Dr. Poole. No big surprise there. Has your opinion of him changed in any way after he "confessed" and tried to help Jane and Edward? And if you could bring someone back from the dead, would you do it? Theoretically you wouldn't be aware of any consequences, but logically I think we've learned that there's always consequences...
Dr Poole was more of a tool than an actual character, but yes, my opinion improved a bit after he saw the error of his ways. No, I wouldn't try to bring back anyone from the dead. It would be harmful to us both.
17. Jane came back for Edward and saved him of course, and now they're living happily ever after. How do you feel about them as a couple, and is there anything you would have changed about these last couple of chapters as the author or simply just a fan of the original work?
There was a very thin characterisation, the author was very lazy in this regard, leaning on the readers' previous knowledge of the original characters and I dislike it when author's don't take the trouble of creating their own characters. She also used lots of telling, but not real showing. I personally felt to chemistry/connection bw the 2 MCs.
Though I have to say that I appreciated the fact that this Rochester was a kind of decent guy. Despite loving the original book, I cordially detest the original Rochester and have always wished Jane Eyre to be happy on her own.
18. Was this your first book written by Sharon Lynn Fisher, and do you think you'll be reading more by the author? Were your original expectations met? Anything else you want to add?
Yes, this was by first book by her and probably the last. While I didn't dislike this book despite some of the things I said, I don't feel particularly attracted/interested by her way of writing.
Bonus for everyone but especially those who have read Jane Eyre before: I challenge you to say at least one good thing about Salt & Broom - other than "it ended!!" lol :b
I liked the witchy aspects of the books, the herbology stuff and wish there had been more of that aspect. :)
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15. I personally haven't read Jane Eyre and therefore can't compare the two books which makes me feel a bit regretting, but then again so many of y'all don't seem to like this as a retelling. Do you think you'd feel differently about the book depending on whether you've read Jane Eyre or not, and do you want to pick up Jane Eyre now if you haven't yet? What if you hadn't been aware of this being a retelling and the characters had different names?
If this hadn't purported to be a retelling, but was just a Victorian gothic spooky it'd be perfectly serviceable. It's in comparison to the original that it suffers:
- Jane lacks agency
- it's all too short to believe the love story
- generally feels YA
16. I was secretly hoping that Agnes had romantic feelings for Antoinette and that she was more involved in the last part of the book, but alas it was Dr. Poole. No big surprise there. Has your opinion of him changed in any way after he "confessed" and tried to help Jane and Edward? And if you could bring someone back from the dead, would you do it? Theoretically you wouldnt be aware of any consequences, but logically I think we've learned that there's always consequences...
Why anyone would think there wouldn't be consequences to subverting the laws of nature I don't know. And I couldn't believe in the doctor's idealised love of poor Antoinette either. She's been done a disservice too, being made into a insipid dying plot device. Bertha in the original was properly terrifying
17. Jane came back for Edward and saved him of course, and now they're living happily ever after. How do you feel about them as a couple, and is there anything you would have changed about these last couple of chapters as the author or simply just a fan of the original work?
They were always going to be together. but it came at no cost to either of them, not even time. which makes it much less satisfying than the original.
18. Was this your first book written by Sharon Lynn Fisher, and do you think you'll be reading more by the author? Were your original expectations met? Anything else you want to add?
ehhhhh. dunno. not in a hurry, but if she'd had the courage to write her own story it'd've been better
Bonus for everyone but especially those who have read Jane Eyre before: I challenge you to say at least one good thing about Salt & Broom - other than "it ended!!" lol :b
Sybil the cat was charming. and the ambition of the wicked spirit was commendable, even if I didn't fully get the motivation - it felt a bit mean girl hair-pulling was the original issue, and the whole curse was massive overreaction....
DQs – Day 3 Protective Impulses-Pert Thing11. What do you think about the revelation in the garden/the haunting? Did you see it coming, and do you think there are others involved with the “curse”?
I felt like we knew it was Mrs. Rochester by this point. The idea that she remained earthbound because of the short marriage to someone her father arranged her to marry didn't make sense.
12. What do you think about Mr. Rochester sending away Jane and the staff? If you have read the original, how does this change Jane’s agency, and do you like the change? Either way, why do you think the author made it Mr. Rochester’s choice?
This didn't make sense at all. He wasn't protecting anyone and it wasn't going to make life better. I feel like the author was trying to make Rochester seem more like a victim and it didn't really work for me.
13. Have you ever visited an Apothecary’s Garden? Would you be interested in seeing one? Do you grow any herbs or are you interested in growing any?
I am not much for cooking or herbs so I don't grow any. I wouldn't mind seeing an Apothecary's garden but would not seek one out.
14. What do you think about the scene with Miss Ingram? What does this tell you about Mr. Rochester’s character and did that seem consistent with his character so far? Did his explanation make sense to you?
The scene with Miss Ingram made sense to me in the way that it showed Jane was not at the same social level as Rochester. It seemed consistent with how aloof Rochester was trying to be. His explanation didn't make sense. He just was acting like a jerk, but I was feeling like he was a jerk anyhow.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I have never actually read Jane Eyre, but have read some retellings and enjoyed them. It's also just a story that has become just part of general knowledge.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I love retellings! A lot of older language is difficult for me, so I appreciate when retellings make it more palatable.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
So far I like the setting. I'm a fan of witchy stuff in general, and I think it always works well with Victorian as it gives it a more eerie feeling.
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
I like them both well enough so far. I haven't really seen enough to form strong opinions and since I haven't read the source material, I don't really have anything to compare.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action
I'm thinking both, likely someone else with witchy powers.
Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Stacey wrote: "I just finished. This isn't a retelling, at all, it is a butchering. Sorry - tried to like it but they took out what made the book memorable changing the whole idea of the story."I..."
That's how I felt. I pushed through because points but this book was painful.
DQs - Day 1 - Prologue-Blackthorn1. A paranormal retelling?? of Jane Eyre - this prompts the question about the original or let's call it the "source for inspiration". What is your relationship to Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë? Have you read it? Loved/liked/disliked it?
I remember it as being one of the few "classics" I actually enjoyed. This book made me want to re-read Jane Eyre completely.
2. What about Retellings? Is it a genre you like/avoid?
I actually really like retellings if they are good but there are so many that are just...bad.
3. Jane Aire as a witch in a school for orphan witches? How do you like the setting of this alternative Victorian world where magic is at least tolerated?
Give me all the magic please and thank you!
4. What are your first impressions of Jane and Rochester?
They are both a little stuffy but that's also perfect for the setting of the book. I want to give them both some alcohol and let the chaos ensue.
5. What do you think about the occurrences in Thornfield? Are they really caused by supernatural elements or is it human action?
I think it could be both but I'm leaning towards someone not wanting Rochester to exist. An alive, human someone, not a paranormal dead one.
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6. Jane gives Rochester a black-coloured thumb-sized stone to keep with him as a protective talisman. Do you believe in talismans? Please tell us about an object that you keep with you as a talisman?
I'm not a talisman kind of person. I feel like this could just cause issues down the track if lost/stolen I suppose so I prefer not to go there! haha
7. Between some of the chapters narrated from Jane’s point of view, we get chapters from Rochester’s point of view. What do you think of these “interludes”? Do they help or distract?
I like to get that quick insight into his POV. It doesn't disrupt the story too much
8. We are introduced to Dr. Poole. What did you think of this character particularly with regards to Jane meeting him in the poison garden? Were there any changes in your opinion after reading Agnes’ conversation with Jane about the late Mrs. Rochester?
This was all a bit interesting how she is taking these original characters and changing them up a bit.
Not sure if this is just a red-herring at the moment that the poison garden may be related
9. We have been told several times about a curse on Thornfield. Then Jane follows Rochester to the graveyard where his family members are buried. At this point Jane says “This was a story of heartache. Everyone in Mr. Rochester’s family had died before their time, especially the females. Then his wife had done the same.” Do you think there is a connection between the curse and the early deaths?
In those times people died young, especially women in childbirth or with consumption, so I didn't think too much of it as a curse.
10. We have been given information about Jane and her origin? What do you think of this twist in the tale?
This made me wonder why she has kept to the Jane Eyre retelling in this way (having Thornfield and all the character names) rather than just making a new tale and having it 'inspired' by Jane Eyre. Kind of like how ACOTAR was inspired loosely by Beauty and the Beast
Bonus: The author has used several of the same names as those of characters from Jane Eyre. Other than Jane, Rochester, we have Brocklehurst, Maria Temple, Mrs. Fairfax, Poole etc. What do you think about authors using the same names in retellings?
As above. At this point I feel she has veered a bit far, with the story, but also with the characters themselves, that it should be more inspired by.