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message 51: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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Most people don’t include me.🤭


message 52: by Bella off hiatus (new)

Bella off hiatus | 802 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 10
David - 26
Genya - 22
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 40*
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 44*
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 18


message 53: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 8*
David - 26
Genya - 22
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 40
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 46*
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 18

Team Nikolai is growing.


message 54: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 20
Baghra - 8
David - 26
Genya - 22
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 42*
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 46
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16*


message 55: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 6*
David - 26
Genya - 24*
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 42
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 46
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 6
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 44*
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 46
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14*

@Bella I loved Nikolai too, but Mal...🤩😝


message 57: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 4*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 44
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 48*
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14

Contrary to popular belief, there is nothing wrong with Mal, but Nikolai is superior. ;) I really do like Mal too, though.


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 2*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 46*
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 48
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14

I agree to disagree:) As long as you're not out to get him 😁


message 59: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
Baghra - 0*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 46
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 48
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16*

Sorry, Baghra, but you have to go.

@Catherine--Yeah, disagreement is fine, as long as YOU don't go after Nikolai. :)


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 18*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 48*
Marie - 18
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 48
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16

Wait, you like Zoya? I have a faint memory of her being exceedingly annoying...did she change at the end? I forgot...


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments (LOL I won't:))


message 62: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Apr 04, 2024 07:59PM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 18
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 48
Marie - 16*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 50*
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16

About Zoya, she was annoying at first, although by the end of the trilogy she wasn't so much. Still not the best, though. But then there's KoS... I really liked her in that duology.


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 18
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 50*
Marie - 16
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 50
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20*
Zoya - 16

Ohh OK. I haven't read KoS yet, but I hope to eventually:))


message 64: by Bella off hiatus (last edited Apr 05, 2024 12:24AM) (new)

Bella off hiatus | 802 comments Alina - 18
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 50
Marie - 16
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 52*
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 14*


message 65: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 20*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 50
Marie - 16
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 52
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12*

I am not a Zoya fan, even though I have read beyond S&B. And while I will not argue that Nikolai deserves his place in the winners' circle, I think Mal was more noble in his treatment of Alina. I did not appreciate how Nikolai used her.


message 66: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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@Catherine, people hate on Mal because they see him as oppressive. Instead of seeing him the way Bardugo presents him, they read between the lines and see something that isn't there: him holding her back from her true potential. In actuality, he sees what is happening to her, and knows it isn't good. He tries to get her to see, and instead of people appreciating him for his self-sacrificial decisions, they malign him for not letting her go without a fight.


message 67: by Bella off hiatus (new)

Bella off hiatus | 802 comments Personally, I don't like Mal, but that's because I saw him as slightly annoying (especially in book 3), and with the show, I only saw him as "nice" and nothing more.


message 68: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 50
Marie - 14*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 52
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 14*

@Catherine-- KoS is really good, but a certain character's chapters made me super angry. Still a great series, though.

@Sharon-- I do get what you're saying about Nikolai, but the thing is, there was never really love on either side. And she kind of wanted to use him to try and forget Mal, remember? He did annoy me when he kissed her that one time, though. But he's great, so I can forgive him. ;)


message 69: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 20
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 52*
Marie - 14
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 52
Sergie - 20
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12*

Let's just face it--no one in these books are especially moral people!😅 We can like certain parts of them, but there are bound to be huge issues in almost all of them!

Bella, what character in KoS? I personally only liked Nikolai, but I especially disliked (view spoiler).


message 70: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 20
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 52
Marie - 14
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54*
Sergie - 18*
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12

Exactly. None of them are very moral, unfortunately.

As for the annoying chapters of KoS, those were (view spoiler)


message 71: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (last edited Apr 05, 2024 09:31AM) (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 22*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 52
Marie - 14
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 18
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 10*

Yep. That's why I don't read Bardugo anymore. She just kept making things less and less moral with each book.


message 72: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 22
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 52
Marie - 12*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 18
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12*

Sad but true.

The plot of KoS was really interesting, though. (The following is a spoiler for people who don't want to know ships in KoS.) And I have to admit, I love (view spoiler) It's giving Helnik some serious competition for my fave Grishaverse ship.


message 73: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 24*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 20
Mal - 52
Marie - 12
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 18
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 10*

I cannot remember the Hel part of Helnik. 🤔


message 74: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Apr 05, 2024 10:09AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 24
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22*
Mal - 52
Marie - 12*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 18
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 10

It comes from Matthias HELvar aka one of my fave SoC characters, I don't care what anyone says. :)

You are just determined to get rid of Zoya, aren't you?


message 75: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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Wait—Matthias and Nikolai??

I don’t like Zoya, but I can leave her alone for a bit. 😊


message 76: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Apr 05, 2024 10:52AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments If you mean do I love Matthias and Nikolai, then the answer is yes, they're both great characters imo. If you're asking if they're a ship, the answer is no. That wouldn't make ANY sense as they literally never even met each other. Or did they? I've read a lot of books between CK and now. But anyway, no the nik comes from Zenik, as in Nina Zenik

If you leave Zoya alone for a bit that would be appreciated. :)


message 77: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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Bella wrote: "If you mean do I love Matthias and Nikolai, then the answer is yes, they're both great characters imo. If you're asking if they're a ship, the answer is no. That wouldn't make ANY sense as they lit..."

Oh, 😅. Good. I am not sure if they met when Nikolai came to meet Kaz or not. Or was Matthias (view spoiler)? I liked Matthias--it was Nina I didn't like.


message 78: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 26*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 52
Marie - 12
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 16*
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 10


message 79: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 26
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 52
Marie - 10*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 16
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12*

I don't think they met, but (view spoiler) Yeah, that would be a weird ship. I wonder if anyone DOES ship them... But Matthais is one of my faves, he's such a great character. :)


message 80: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 28*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 52
Marie - 10
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 14*
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12


message 81: by Catherine (semi active) (last edited Apr 05, 2024 11:52AM) (new)

Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 28
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54*
Marie - 10
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 14
Tamar - 20*
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12

@Sharon Aww makes sense! Booo 👎👎👎 Thanks for explaining:)

@Bella Interesting- makes me really interested:))

Thanks for using spoiler tags y'all! Also, are there any characters y'all like besides Mal, Nikolai, and for now Zoya? I am shocked at how much I forgot, but I barely remember any of these characters.


message 82: by ✧Bella✧ (last edited Apr 05, 2024 11:57AM) (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 28
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 52
Marie - 8*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 14
Tamar - 22
Tolya - 22*
Zoya - 12


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Oops, let me edit mine.


message 84: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Catherine wrote: "Alina - 28
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54*
Marie - 10
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 14
Tamar - 20*
Tolya - 20
Zoya - 12

@Sharon Aww makes sense! Booo 👎👎👎 Thanks for explaining:)

@..."


I like David, Genya (after she comes around!), Nikolai, Mal, and Alina. And I think Tolya--he was the boy twin, right?.


message 85: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Yeah, I like all those characters too. I also like Tamar, the girl twin.


message 86: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Which list are we going by now??🤔


message 87: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (last edited Apr 05, 2024 01:02PM) (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 30*
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 8
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 12*
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 12

I think I combined Bella's and Catherine's correctly, then I did my own turn.


message 88: by Cat (new)

Cat Carstairs | 516 comments Alina - 30
David - 26
Genya - 24
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 6*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 12
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14*


message 89: by Cat (last edited Apr 05, 2024 01:25PM) (new)

Cat Carstairs | 516 comments I personally don't like Mal from the books because it seemed like he ignored Alina until she became "beautiful" due to exercising her Grisha powers. Only once did she become powerful and had everyone noticing her did he finally notice her.

Mal from the show though....that's a different story. ;)


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 30
David - 26
Genya - 26*
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 4*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 12
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14

Sharon and Bella, good to know:) Thanks for fixing that Sharon! Cat, that's an interesting take. I don't remember the book well enough, but that would definitely change my opinion of Mal.


message 91: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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Cat wrote: "I personally don't like Mal from the books because it seemed like he ignored Alina until she became "beautiful" due to exercising her Grisha powers. Only once did she become powerful and had everyo..."

I can see that, but I think Bardugo did a good job of fleshing out their complicated relationship and helping us (me, anyway) understand why Mal took so long. (view spoiler) I liked him much more than any of the other options!🙃 He could have had better morals, but so could all of them.🤭


message 92: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

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Alina - 32*
David - 26
Genya - 26
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 4
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 10*
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14


Catherine (semi active) | 1374 comments Alina - 32
David - 26
Genya - 28*
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 2*
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 54
Sergie - 10
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14


message 94: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 32
David - 26
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 2
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 56*
Sergie - 8*
Tamar - 20
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14

I shipped Malina to the end, but Nikolai was my favorite character.

Also, I forgot to mention Harshaw when we were talking about characters we like who are still on the list. He was a bit strange, and I wasn't sure about him at first, but, for some reason, I kind of like him. Not enough for him to make the final three though.


message 95: by Mary-Therese (new)

Mary-Therese P. | 2967 comments Alina - 32
David - 26
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 22
Mal - 54
Marie - 2
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18*
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16*


message 96: by Bella off hiatus (last edited Apr 06, 2024 08:03AM) (new)

Bella off hiatus | 802 comments Alina - 32
David - 26
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 24*
Mal - 54
Marie - 2
Nadia - 18
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14*


message 97: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 32
David - 28*
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 24
Mal - 54
Marie - 2
Nadia - 16*
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14


message 98: by Sharon, ⭒botm leader⭒ (new)

Sharon Loves to Read | 7405 comments Mod
Alina - 34*
David - 28
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 24
Mal - 54
Marie - 0*
Nadia - 16
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14


message 99: by ✧Bella✧ (new)

✧Bella✧  | 6825 comments Alina - 34
David - 30*
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 24
Mal - 54
Nadia - 14*
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 14


message 100: by Mary-Therese (new)

Mary-Therese P. | 2967 comments Alina - 34
David - 30
Genya - 28
Harshaw - 24
Mal - 54
Nadia - 12*
Nikolai - 56
Sergie - 8
Tamar - 18
Tolya - 22
Zoya - 16*


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