Need some advice for editing this series

[Shonari]

So a couple of questions about editing a series.

The Haden War Cycle Series by Evan Currie has a couple of different series names, and I'm wondering which is right and what I should change them to in order to clean it up.

On Goodreads the series is called Hayden War Cycle. And within the series, the books themselves have different series names.

On Amazon the series is called On Silver Wings: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074C62DNG

The last book in the series "Storm Warning: Insurgent" seems to be a new series called Insurgent #1 (based solely on the cover art), but still a part of the On Silver Wings series, which I agree with. (last book is 20 years after the events of the previous book)

I've read them all, and they are definitely all part of the same universe.

Should I change it all to the Amazon series name, or leave it be...?

Thanks!

PS On the last page of the book, the author refers to the Hayden War Cycle as the series. Confusing a bit.

[Tawnya]

Amazon seems to be wrong about series titles more often than they are correct. I would use what the author wants. I saw that his website is a mess. I would go by what he has in the books.

A few of the authors I read have several series that are all within the same universe. On their sites (and on here) the books are listed in both their main series and then under the "universe" umbrella. Shayne Silvers has 3 series that intertwine with each other constantly. He always shows his series names and then gives a chronological listing so people can keep track.

That universe one is important. I wound up reading a book because someone on GR had placed that series under the universe. It wound up having nothing to do with that universe of books and in the author's notes they specifically said this was NOT part of that. People saw the names (there are always the same 2, plus a third one that changes depending of the series) and just figured, "Hey another one".

[annob [on hiatus]]

Shonari wrote: "... Should I change it all to the Amazon series name, or leave it be...?"

Previous staff advise has been to use what is on the cover of each edition. See this older thread:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

So it is correct to have the old series name on the title line for older editions, and a newer series name on newer editions, depending what is on their cover art.

[Dan]

Tawnya wrote: "Amazon seems to be wrong about series titles more often than they are correct. I would use what the author wants. I saw that his website is a mess. I would go by what he has in the books.

A few of..."

Hi, I have read al of his Templeverse books and I was maintaining the "Templeverse: Chronological Order Series" found here: https://www.goodreads.com/series/2505...

I have read up to Dark Horse book 39 in the Templeverse and all should be correct in the right order up to that book as per his own website.

Note his website had an error with yuletide and dark horse and had them both listed as the same number in the templeverse reading order and I put them in the same order he had it in his website with yuletide first and dark horse after, it also fit that way when I read them. Also note Yultide was published first and Dark Horse was published after so it kind of hard to understand why people would think Dark Horse is before in the chronology.

That said his website seem down and is 404. There's a wiki putting dark horse before yultide but I dunno where they get it should be in that order. I had sent Shayne Silvers a message about the numbering error on his website but never heard anything back from him and like I said his website is now 404.

His next book should be in this order: Snakebite, boilermaker and reverie I haven't read snakebite nor boilermaker yet which is why I haven't updated the Templeverse Chronological order series linked above.

[Dan]

I have another question to other librarians or superlibrarians.

I have noticed that sometimes when putting a series in the correct order it will not show up under the authors "series" listing. I have noticed this seems to happen mostly with series that have prequels that the author numbers as book 0.5 and book 0.75 when there's more than one prequel etc.

For example this series here:
https://www.goodreads.com/series/3868...

If I put book 0.5 AND book 0.75 first in the list before book 1 it wont show up at all in the authors "series" listing but does right away if I move one of them after book 1, so I can put book 0.5 and then book 1 and it shows up but not if I put both before book 1.

How do you all handle such when there more than one book/prequel added in the series after the fact and needs or should be placed before book 1?

[Miriam]

The issue with the decimal numbers before the first whole number is you have to make sure the Primary check box is unchecked (should be unchecked for all decimal entries, but it really messes with things if the first entry is marked wrong).

I fixed the check box, but I can't move the order due to being on mobile.

[Tawnya]

Isn't Shayne fun?! But oy trying to keep track of everything is a bit hard. And then having Cameron’s writing be a bit off isn’t helping matters. That I am guessing was due to the move to Scotland and having the baby. Those things can seriously muck up your headspace.

The opening scene where Nate cow-tipped Asterion was hilarious. I read that to my daughter, and she was interested in the series, until I told her about how many books she would actually need to read.

The idiot goats that like to be eaten have been so bizarre and funny. They remind me of the cow from Hitchhiker’s. Carl and his boots! How about Aphrodite over in the Callie series...OMG the Easter Bunny!!! I so cannot put what she said here, but I was rolling.

My main quibble with Shayne is the way he likes to change who a character is. At a certain point it gets to be just laziness. He screwed up Dean's character so badly that I wanted to Gibbs' smack him. At this point I wonder if Shayne even has a clue where everyone is and who they are supposed to be now. Changing Quinn's history was frustrating. Meanwhile I would love a spin-off of the Lost Boys.


That universe it the perfect example of why it should never only be a specific definition of "series" that has a page.

Quinn was LITERALLY watching Nate do things that we saw in the Temple series. Again, the timing was off, so what should have been a back-to-back release of Nate and Quinn didn't happen. Throw in her watching Callie in the park and you have all three series tied together in one book. That book only has Quinn’s name on it though. People who just started reading would be clueless about the importance of everything Quinn saw.

OK enough rambling from me. Thank you for creating the page.

[Arenda]

Miriam wrote: "I fixed the check box, but I can't move the order due to being on mobile."

Done

Dan wrote: "I have another question to other librarians or superlibrarians. "

Starting a new thread is strongly preferred, rather than adding a question in the middle of someone else's question/discussion.

[Dan]

Arenda wrote: Dan wrote: "I have another question to other librarians or superlibrarians. "

Starting a new thread..."

Noted and apologies I didn't intend to ruffle any feathers and thought no one would mind as I figured I was forgetting something simple.

Tawnya wrote: "Isn't Shayne fun?! But oy trying to keep track of everything is a bit hard. ..."

Indeed, some of these series become difficult even for the authors themselves to keep track of! lol

Miriam wrote: "The issue with the decimal numbers before the first whole number ..."

Ah ty I knew I was forgetting something simple!