The Baseball Book Club discussion
note: This topic has been closed to new comments.
2024 Regular Season- First Half
message 501:
by
C. John
(new)
May 27, 2024 08:06PM
Good news for many of you. Angel Hernandez is planning to retire. How soon? Immediately it seems.
reply
|
flag
C. John wrote: "Good news for many of you. Angel Hernandez is planning to retire. How soon? Immediately it seems."It's about time.
C. John wrote: "Good news for many of you. Angel Hernandez is planning to retire. How soon? Immediately it seems."And the baseball fans rejoiced!
Mod
Anyone get the Athletic? I have limited access but just read that Josh Gibson not Ty Cobb is all-time batting leader. Here are the first couple of paragraphs.It has been an article of faith for nearly a century, as if chiseled onto a tablet by Abner Doubleday himself: The leading hitter in major league history is, and always will be, Tyrus Raymond Cobb.
But history evolves. We know that Doubleday did not, in fact, invent baseball. And as of Wednesday, Josh Gibson will replace Cobb as the leading hitter in the official records of the game. At .372, Gibson’s career batting average eclipses Cobb’s by six points.
ADVERTISEMENT
Major League Baseball will announce on Wednesday the results of a newly integrated statistical database covering records from Negro Leagues that operated from 1920 to 1948. The formal acceptance of the data comes three-and-a-half years after MLB officially recognized the Negro Leagues as major leagues in December 2020.
“People will be, I don’t know if upset is the word, but they may be uncomfortable with some Negro League stars now on the leaderboards for career and seasons,” said Larry Lester, an author and longtime Negro Leagues researcher who served on the committee.
Beth wrote: "Anyone get the Athletic? I have limited access but just read that Josh Gibson not Ty Cobb is all-time batting leader. Here are the first couple of paragraphs.It has been an article of faith for n..."
Berh; Thanks for posting this! Don't have access to The Athletic. I'm reading The Baseball by 100 by Joe Posnanski. He has Josh Gibson as #15 & quotes Barry Bonds on breaking the home run record: "No. In my heart it belongs to Josh Gibson." Although Posnanski does rank Ty Cobb at #8.
Am on a 3 month wait list to read The Last of His Kind: Clayton Kershaw and the Burden of Greatness by Andy McCullough. Hoping he's able to pitch later this season before retiring.
Mod
https://baseballhall.org/discover/car..."
I remember him - started the 1985 All Star game (the only one I have seen live) and was the winning pitcher.
Mod
It has been an article of faith for n..."
I know that finding any official statistics for some Negro League games, teams and players has been a challenge. I wonder what the minimum amount of at bats or plate appearances are required in the games and seasons they have compiled?
If it truly is Gibson and not Cobb as the best hitter…well that simply means that the title is passed from one legend to another.
Mod
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/n...
Mod
Apparently, MLB reached out to Angel Hernandez to get him to retire. It seems as if a settlement package was agreed upon.https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/...
This is an impressive feat that is under the radar. How about 13 consecutive strikeouts!https://www.mlb.com/news/jeremiah-est...
Mod
Harold wrote: "This is an impressive feat that is under the radar. How about 13 consecutive strikeouts!https://www.mlb.com/news/jeremiah-est..."
Didnt have time to lisren to game last night. Will be watching condensed game later today. Sounds like Padres have found their set up pitcher for closer Suarez!
I am going to root for Birmingham-Southern (Ala.) in the College World Series. The CWS starts on Friday (May 31). The same day the college will be closing its doors. If it wins the whole shebang it will be the first time the winning school doesn't exist.
Harold wrote: "Apparently, MLB reached out to Angel Hernandez to get him to retire. It seems as if a settlement package was agreed upon.https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/...-..."
This doesn't surprise me in the least. Glad there doesn't seem to be any ill will as his lawyer is adamant he wasn't "forced out" of the position.
Mod
Very pleased to see that Phillies beat Giants today as Padres loss today has us back in 3rd behind SF. Will be rooting for Yankees this weekend to take the series against SF!
I for one am immensely glad the Guardians don’t have to see Coors Field for the rest of the season. What a mess last night.
Paul Emmel has also retired as a major league umpire. In his case it would seem to be health issues.
Sorry Ashley Marie but I may end up hating your Guardians.
Mod
Mod
I've been to this ballpark once before - similar conference and scenario in 2019. Main difference will be prices and this time, no Tim Tebow to embarrass himself.
Mod
Lance wrote: "As I already do - well, "hate" is a strong word - but I sure hate seeing them win! Ah, well, my team can only do what they can do, right? And beating the Royals three out of four this week was grea..."C. John wrote: "Sorry Ashley Marie but I may end up hating your Guardians."
Ha! No worries, guys :)
Brina wrote: "I’m convinced a break in the space-time continuum caused Cubs to win World Series in 2016. For as long as I can remember they have done the same formula to lose and it’s not pretty. Today was horri..."Brina; Have been reading Why We Love Baseball: A History in 50 Moments by Joe Posnanski & today got to #3 titled The Rain Delay Speech. Had to stop reading as I started to cry. Even though I'm a die-hard Padres fan; that game in 2016 when Cubs won WS is my pick for best baseball game ever! I know others have their favorite but that was such an emotional moment. I can still see the smile on Bryant's face when he caught the ball for the last out & then threw to Rizzo. And Rizzo knew he was going to field it. So don't give up on your Cubs :)
Mod
Mod
Lance wrote: "Best game ever: c’mon Peggy, how can anything beat game 7 in 1991? Veteran Jack Morris and youngster John Smoltz (both future HOF pitchers) matching zeros for over 7 innings and Morris ends up with..."HaHa! I knew my comment might be controversial :) Although is always sweet when Braves lose!
Ashley-Marie there was an item in my email that suggests the Guardians are one of the favourites to land Bo Bichette. I DO NO WANT THE BLUE JAYS TO TRADE HIM PERIOD>
Brina wrote: "I’m convinced a break in the space-time continuum caused Cubs to win World Series in 2016. For as long as I can remember they have done the same formula to lose and it’s not pretty. Today was horri..."If there are breaks in the space-time continuum we had best call in The Doctor. We don't want anything breaking into our universe that shouldn't be here. Sorry, couldn't resist that one.
Mod
Brina wrote: "I’m convinced a break in the space-time continuum caused Cubs to win World Series in 2016. For as long as I can remember they have done the same formula to lose and it’s not pretty. Today was horri..."I can totally understand your frustration.
Peggyzbooksnmusic wrote: "Brina wrote: "I’m convinced a break in the space-time continuum caused Cubs to win World Series in 2016. For as long as I can remember they have done the same formula to lose and it’s not pretty. T..."That was a tremendous and historic game. I used to think game six of the 1975 series(the Carlton Fisk home run) was the greatest big game ever, but the Cubs game was game seven of a world series, and I guess kit was the greatest of my lifetime. Game seven of the 1960 World Series is a very close second. With due respect to Lance, the Braves were up and comers and the twins didn't have a national following. But, I will draw the scorn of Brina an others when I say that the speech was overly hyped. Hayword really didn't give a Knute Rockney like speech. Maybe it's because he was a veteran by then and the core were kids, but here is what he said. "“I just had to remind them who they were,” Heyward said to Fox Sports. “I just had to remind everybody who we are, who these guys are, what we’ve overcome to get here. Win or lose, we never worry about that. … At the beginning of the day, we never worry about win or loss. We just worry about how we’re going to go out there and have fun, compete, be right there for the guys next to us and not take the situation for granted. I just had to remind them that I’m proud of them. I say it all the time, but I’m proud of you guys.”
Ashley Marie wrote: "C. John wrote: "Good news for many of you. Angel Hernandez is planning to retire. How soon? Immediately it seems."And the baseball fans rejoiced!"
Peggyzbooksnmusic wrote: "Am on a 3 month wait list to read The Last of His Kind: Clayton Kershaw and the Burden of Greatness by Andy McCullough. Hoping he's able to pitch later this season..."I'm interested in this one too, but I'm going to listen to the audiobook. And it would be nice if he could pitch later this season but I am skeptical that he will be able to return to form that quickly. From what I've seen pitchers usually take about 2 years to recover from shoulder surgery, and at Kershaw's age I just don't see him making an impact this season. But we'll see...
C. John wrote: "Ashley-Marie there was an item in my email that suggests the Guardians are one of the favourites to land Bo Bichette. I DO NO WANT THE BLUE JAYS TO TRADE HIM PERIOD>"Oh, this is the first I've heard of this! Must go digging. For your sake, C John, I don't want them to trade him either!
C. John wrote: "Baseball Card Corner is Gates Brownhttps://baseballhall.org/discover/car..."
A great story.
So, in reading the rule, it's clear he made bets on Padres games. While I think MLB is hypocritical for partnering with Fanduel , the rule is still in every club house. I'm not sympathetic to Marcano.
Mod
Brina wrote: "Nor am i however if they don't want players to bet get rid of all the temptation. And 4 other guys suspended for a year."Betting may become the opioid of sports.
Coming soon to a ballpark near you (maybe), Cosmic Baseball.https://larrybrownsports.com/baseball...
Sort of reminds me of the Glow Bowling that has become popular, though not for league or tournament play.
Even though I agree with MLB'S ban &,suspending policy (which is very hypocritical considering how many ads are betting related!) it still makes me sad that these players have thrown away their chance to play in baseball. And none of them have the name recognition such as Pete Rose to cash in on their prior accomplishments.
Peggyzbooksnmusic wrote: "Even though I agree with MLB'S ban &,suspending policy (which is very hypocritical considering how many ads are betting related!) it still makes me sad that these players have thrown away their cha..."To be a little bit fair, the players know that they can't bet on baseball, or while at work. It is explained at great length and there are all kinds of warnings posted in clubhouses, etc. They even know their actions will be monitored, yet some of them still try to get away with it. (I have read up on all of this because I helped my daughter with a paper she had to write for a college class about this topic.)
What I find hypocritical is this:
Bet on your team's game = lifetime ban
Cheat in World Series = no punishment (unless you are a member of the 1919 White Sox)
RJ - Slayer of Trolls wrote: "Peggyzbooksnmusic wrote: "Even though I agree with MLB'S ban &,suspending policy (which is very hypocritical considering how many ads are betting related!) it still makes me sad that these players ..."The reason the 1919 White Sox get singled out is that they were throwing the games on behalf of gamblers (supposedly). To the best of my knowledge no one else has been accused of that, at least not in the modern era. Of course with prop betting becoming popular who know what is going to happen. Personally I think prop betting may be more insidious than betting on the straight outcome of a game or series.
Mod
This topic has been frozen by the moderator. No new comments can be posted.
The Baseball Book Club
Books mentioned in this topic
The Last of His Kind: Clayton Kershaw and the Burden of Greatness (other topics)Why We Love Baseball: A History in 50 Moments (other topics)
The Last of His Kind: Clayton Kershaw and the Burden of Greatness (other topics)
The Baseball 100 (other topics)
The Complete Prophesies of Nostradamus (other topics)
Authors mentioned in this topic
Andy McCullough (other topics)Joe Posnanski (other topics)
Andy McCullough (other topics)
Joe Posnanski (other topics)
