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Sep 17, 2024 05:13PM
Same tbh 😅 books + emo music lol. Is everything okay, though? If you need to talk, feel free to message me
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@Olivia, thanks! :)
If we separate the meaning and the symbol, we lose both. It goes back to the fundamental question: ‘how do you know someone? Or here, how do I know Jesus?”
What you’re saying is like saying I don’t need to know the details in order to know someone (like your favorite food, books, etc). Or worse: the details are a hindrance.
If we separate the meaning and the symbol, we lose both. It goes back to the fundamental question: ‘how do you know someone? Or here, how do I know Jesus?”
What you’re saying is like saying I don’t need to know the details in order to know someone (like your favorite food, books, etc). Or worse: the details are a hindrance.
(That’s not at all what I’m saying. A symbol has a meaning does it not? What else sides the word symbol mean other than symbolic? So we should look at the meaning behind it not just the object)
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I was just emphasizing where our focus and emphasis should be. I think we can agreed there.
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@Books, and my emphasis is Paul’s :) (see the passage from 1st Corinthians I posted earlier)
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But as the apostle Paul states later in his first epistle to the Corinthians, the resurrection is equally important, if not the most important.
"But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: and if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of god; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead raised not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: and if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are falling asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept" (1 Corinthians 13-20; emphasis mine).
Correct, but it's you Protestants who are creating this false dichotomy in the first place :) It's honestly (not to be judgmental) weird. Who thinks of the cross without thinking of the resurrection?
(A lot of people do. It’s just become something you wear or show off. It’s lost its value to a lot of people)
OHH, you're talking about jewelry then?! Yeah, people can do that, but it's not really the cross then, is it? :) It's just a vertical/horizontal image in that case.
(Well no I’m talking about the cross. But we see it everywhere all the time that for some you get so used to seeing it you don’t really think about the value behind it anymore)
Yeah, but that's on us then. Not the cross :)
E.g., every Protestant I've met says we should read our Bible daily, right? If I'm reading it daily, then I'm around it "all the time" and am no longer "thinking about the value behind" the Sacred Word. Therefore, should I stop reading the Bible daily then?
(I'm just trying to apply your logic here).
E.g., every Protestant I've met says we should read our Bible daily, right? If I'm reading it daily, then I'm around it "all the time" and am no longer "thinking about the value behind" the Sacred Word. Therefore, should I stop reading the Bible daily then?
(I'm just trying to apply your logic here).
(Well, it depends where your heart is. Some make reading their Bible meaningless and dry. They go into the Word without their full heart and after reading it don’t really ponder it and promptly forget what they just read. For some it just becomes habit and they’re not putting their full heart into it)
This is true. Without interiority, our devotions are meaningless. But you didn't answer my question :) Should said person stop reading the Bible daily then?
(No. But they should put their full heart into it. You should never stop reading your Bible but before you read it you should make sure that your heart is in it)
So then, as long as I'm interiorly oriented properly, then focusing on the cross won't lead me away from Jesus :) Even if the cross is "everywhere" just like I should never stop reading the Bible then.
(Well, yes. I never said you shouldn’t focus on the cross. All I said was it’s important to focus on the meaning behind it not just the symbol itself)
Go back to message 569 & 567. :) You did, bruh.
(you should know it takes everything in me to debate friends btw 😭 I die a little inside lol)
(you should know it takes everything in me to debate friends btw 😭 I die a little inside lol)
(You misunderstood me. I said you shouldn’t focus on just the cross but the meaning behind it. A symbol has meaning the meaning behind a symbol is more important than the symbol itself. Yeah I hate debating friends…especially over text because idk if it sounds rude or not and I DON’T want to sound rude…)
Let's be friends again 😭
FT: I bought something from your country. Let me turn my phone on and show you lol
FT: I bought something from your country. Let me turn my phone on and show you lol
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Ummmm is that boxes chili? Because if it is, NO
Boxed*
Haha, no it's just chili seasoning. What do you take me for, M? xD
Non-Texans (🙃)
Yankees are smarter anyways :)
(I take you for an uncultured person…JK 🤣)
Ha! Sure you are
Bless your heart 🙃
Bless your heart, it's gonna be a shotgun wedding.
Yeehaw!
I miss my old FT thread 😭 I was banished here
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Elisabeth (Bets) wrote: "This one is fun"
No it's not :( I already have a complex 'cause of you abandoning me in Walmart/Hobby Lobby anyways xD
No it's not :( I already have a complex 'cause of you abandoning me in Walmart/Hobby Lobby anyways xD
The heck…🤣🤣🤣
HOBBY LOBBY!!!!!!!
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That time my friend tried to push me into a mosh pit at a Christian metal concert lol
Not a very good friend, huh?
What in the heck???
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I didn't even know Christians *had* mosh pits lol. I was an Atheist at the time, so...
Ummm yeah I didn’t know that either…pretty sure that’s not normal…🤣
I kinda don't remember that night lol. I was pretty baked tbh
(and yeah, before anyone asks, I don't smoke anymore, since becoming Christian :) )
(and yeah, before anyone asks, I don't smoke anymore, since becoming Christian :) )
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