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What really happened to the dinosaurs? And how come the Bible doesn't mention dinosaurs? (A satirical discussion thread from deep inside the Underground mental asylum - DISCLAIMER: consult with your shrink before reading and post at your own risk!)
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Mostly sons are mentioned....how many were girls? There was Ruth, Rachel, Sarah, and Rebekkah....those are the only ones I can think of....Old Testament wise....
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Fay wrote: "1.) Three words, James: Little Baby Animals2.) Yes, dinos were around "recently" ..."
Fay, while we are at it, let's push things further and say the dinos are still around.
:)
Laureen wrote: "Also, leave Queenslanders alone. We are human too. ..."
Laureen, those comments about Queenslanders were just friendly banter. I actually spent half my childhood up in Queensland and love it!
p.s. When you buy the loincloth make sure it's a goodie.
so a flood is plausible, but a meteor hitting us isn't?
Krishna wrote: "Fay, can u say that if dinos r 4000 years old, then how r we getting fossils? it takes millions of years in the formation of fossils."because apparently paleantologists are faking it!
Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "And since you're taking the bible to it's literal word.....the world was created in 6 days.....Abraham, Isaac....et al all lived to be 900+ years old and had hundreds of children...."and in all the stories...they begot sons...
James wrote: "Laureen wrote: "Also, leave Queenslanders alone. We are human too. ..."
Laureen, those comments about Queenslanders were just friendly banter. I actually spent half my childhood up in Queensland ..."
Yes, I know you were joking. We are very comfortable in our own skins and try not to take anything or anybody to seriously. We do have our fair share of red-necks but no more or less than anywhere else in good ol' Aus. That has always been a myth perpetrated in the southern states because they are jealous of our talent. HaHa.
Re the loin cloth. You want/need a really big one I expect?
James wrote: "Fay wrote: "1.) Three words, James: Little Baby Animals2.) Yes, dinos were around "recently" ..."
Fay, while we are at it, let's push things further and say the dinos are still around.
:)"
But that's true James. Underground Dinosaurs!
Catherine wrote: "Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "And since you're taking the bible to it's literal word.....the world was created in 6 days.....Abraham, Isaac....et al all lived to be 900+ years old and had hundreds ..."Yeah, but that would have been because females weren't worth mentioning. They were only incubators for be getting more boy people.
No, Krishna, I don't worship anybody that is human. We are all the same.
OK, Well Mary is important to Christians because she, according to ths scriptures, gave birth to Jesus was a wise man who strove to improve the political standard of the time and to genuinely help people. But I believe he was human too, if, in fact, he was real which I can believe. It is the only explanation for the story having survived time. However, I think most of the stories within the Bible can be relegated to Myth which doesn't necessarily mean that it didn't happen. However, I really can't believe that Mary was a virgin. Who has read or seen the film Rosemary's baby? Well I don't believe that can happen either. Where the Devil rapes someone and begets a demonic child, which is the opposite of what supposedly happened to Mary. I don't mean to denigrate anybody else's belief here. It's just MHO.
Oh, so full of questions you are. I love young people with questioning minds. Well, anybody with a questioning mind. It is like people who chose sides. The them and us mentality. I love it when people feel free enough to ask relevant questions.I don't know enough about the Christian religion to answer you truthfully as I decided I didn't like the threatening messages Iwas getting when I was young. My understanding is that Jesus's mother Mary was a virgin when she fell pregnant. I think that makes Mary more than human. Then Jesus was looked upon as the son of God which is also more than human. That's my interpretation anyway.
yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....
but my question is how can the Old Testament people all live to such ripe old ages...(900years or more)...whilst the New Testament people only lived to normal ages...(35, 50, 80...etc)
and furthemore....how did nowhere in all these stories anyine menton dinosaurs?!?!!? it's because hey didn't exist! they were already extint!
Laureen wrote: "Oh, so full of questions you are. I love young people with questioning minds. Well, anybody with a questioning mind. It is like people who chose sides. The them and us mentality. I love it whe..."whilst it is difficult to believe....I think I've herd of a rare (and I mean very rare) condition where this can happen....don't ask me what it's called...and I could totally be mistaken
Catherine wrote: "Laureen wrote: "Oh, so full of questions you are. I love young people with questioning minds. Well, anybody with a questioning mind. It is like people who chose sides. The them and us mentality..."Is it something along the lines of being able to reduce our molecules to such an extent that we can walk through walls? Or a simpler example would be that we can levitate? There is just so much we don't know. It is truly egotistical to believe or disbelieve anything.
Laureen wrote: "Yes, I know you were joking. We are very comfortable in our own skins and try not to take anything or anybody to seriously. We do have our fair share of red-necks but no more or less than anywhere else in good ol' Aus. That has always been a myth perpetrated in the southern states because they are jealous of our talent. HaHa. Re the loin cloth. You want/need a really big one I expect?
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Hey Laureen - absolutely no comment re the loin cloth size...This group has already gone downhill enough with this thread so far...Answering that question would be the last straw :)
Meanwhile, re Queensland I am aware of the myths the Southern states have of Queenslanders and that's why I played on that myth - to see if I can get a reaction. But it's not a myth I remotely subscribe to. And don't worry, there are just as many rednecks in NSW and VIC.
Laureen wrote: "It is truly egotistical to believe or disbelieve anything...."Laureen, that's the best comment you've ever made - it's right up there with ol' Ed's "scientific fact until next revision" comment.
See, you can lift your head out of the gutter and think beyond loincloths ;)
James wrote: "Laureen wrote: "It is truly egotistical to believe or disbelieve anything...."Laureen, that's the best comment you've ever made - it's right up there with ol' Ed's "scientific fact until next rev..."
Oh no, the loin cloth image is much more fascinating! I guess I was born with my head in the gutter! Better than some place else - I really don 't want my head at the top of a flag pole for instance or on a stake on a castle wall.
They say laughter is the best medicine? Well thank you Dr. James, I think you have rendered me a cure?
Laureen wrote: "James wrote: "Laureen wrote: "It is truly egotistical to believe or disbelieve anything...."Laureen, that's the best comment you've ever made - it's right up there with ol' Ed's "scientific fact ..."
On the contrary, you are clearly incurable!
I'll leave you all to your loin cloth fantasies. Phew! It's getting hot in here!Meanwhile, here's what Laurence Gardner had to say about the virgin birth:
"The Semitic word translated as 'virgin' is almah- which actually means no more than 'young woman'. The Hebrew word denoting a physical 'virgin' is bethula."
(From Bloodline of the Holy Grail: The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed
And only two gospels make reference to the virgin birth anyway.
Maybe so. I'll try to do better. Regarding the loin cloth, I could probably knock up one for Barbie's Ken but I suspect it would not be large enough? I really need some dimensions/measurements if I am to order this item from the big Chinese sewing factory.
Soooo interesting Harry. Thank you. I feel vindicated. Do you need a loin cloth for our up-and-coming movie?
Laureen wrote: "Soooo interesting Harry. Thank you. I feel vindicated. Do you need a loin cloth for our up-and-coming movie?"Sure, why not? Put an order in at the sweatshop.
I need dimensions for you to Harry! Will a Metre by a Metre do it?
Laureen wrote: "I need dimensions for you to Harry! Will a Metre by a Metre do it?"Yeah, I'll make do with that.
I really don't want to cut you short. We must be modest in this movie. OK Harry, you win, I am tired of crossing my legs.
It looks like Mr. Morcan's gonna have one hell of a movie on his hands.Naked dinosaur riding anyone?
I think he's running scared. Gone Underground,
Harry wrote: "It looks like Mr. Morcan's gonna have one hell of a movie on his hands.Naked dinosaur riding anyone?"
Out-of-control Laureen is revealing that the only movie she'd be good for is an X-rated film!
It's terrible what we men have to put up with these days, right Harry? Being objectified like this is what we men have to endure everywhere we go...Women cannot see we also have brains...:)
Is there any way we can end this innuendo now and revert back to the actual topic of this thread?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THOSE BLOODY DINOSAURS MILLIONS (or thousands or hundreds) OF YEARS AGO?
You can show us in the movie. Can't wait.
Yeah, enduring objectification is terrible. Anyway, back on to some sort of topic- I really liked Fay's answer of the Ark containing dino babys!
Although I still think it would've been one hell of a struggle to get two of every kind on board, seeing as the Ark was only 300 cubits long (137.16 m, 450 ft), 50 wide (22.86 m, 75 ft), and 30 high (13.716 m, 45 ft).
And I'd have thought Noah leaving the dinosaurs behind would've been the Christian answer to them dying out in the recent flood!
Harry, you are being so sensible. But Harry, there was no mention of dinosaurs in the Bible was there? Noah wouldn't even have considered them. And surely the parent dinos would have had to be consulted if they were to entrust their babies to Noah. Just a thought.
Laureen wrote: "Harry, you are being so sensible. But Harry, there was no mention of dinosaurs in the Bible was there? Noah wouldn't even have considered them. And surely the parent dinos would have had to be co..."I find it good entertainment to see the lengths people will go to in order to make history fit their faith...
The more sensible option would be just to look at history and science (and religious texts) and say what is the most likely thing: Is it likely dinos were still living around or just before Christ given there are zero mentions of them? Or is it more likely taking the Bible literally does not add up against the overwhelming evidence to the contrary?
Yes, it is obvious James but just because we think that doesn't make it right. All we can do, each one of us, is listen to our inner sense of reason and hope that we are on the right track. What has become obvious to me is that no matter how diverse the opinion, each person believes in their own perception of reality.
James wrote: "Laureen wrote: "Harry, you are being so sensible. But Harry, there was no mention of dinosaurs in the Bible was there? Noah wouldn't even have considered them. And surely the parent dinos would h..."I vote the latter. :)
Laureen wrote: "Yes, it is obvious James but just because we think that doesn't make it right. All we can do, each one of us, is listen to our inner sense of reason and hope that we are on the tight track. What ..."Yeah, true. You're right.
And I thought we had proof the flood occurred circa 10,000 B.C, no?
Harry wrote: "And I thought we had proof the flood occurred circa 10,000 B.C, no?"Proof sometimes has lenient criteria, Harry ;)
Catherine wrote: "Mostly sons are mentioned....how many were girls? There was Ruth, Rachel, Sarah, and Rebekkah....those are the only ones I can think of....Old Testament wise...."Yes mostly sons were mentioned but that does not mean that all of them were sons. I'm sure there were daughters not mentioned because at the time having a son was kinda thought to be better than having a daughter.
Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....
but my question is how can the ..."
1.) Before sin, humans would have lived forever. There was no death. Then, humans sinned, ate the forbidden fruit, and death came into the world. A humans' life span got shorter and shorter over the years. So you could say that "de-evolution" happened.
2.) Job 40 and 41
Krishna wrote: "but don't u think eating fruits is healthier and for that people lives longer?"Ha ha ha.
Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....but my questi..."Er, "before sin, humans lived longer"? But there were none! That started with Adam and Eve, and the old agers like Abraham came after, right?
Krishna wrote: "I guess fruits make us longevity, then how a fruit can take our life. I think it was an apple, isn't it?"It was a forbidden fruit. God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit on The Tree Of The Knowledge Of Good and Evil. Their first sin was disobedience to God by eating the fruit, which caused sin and death to enter the world. The specific fruit it was is not mentioned.
Harry wrote: "Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....but my ..."I'm not sure I understand your question.
Harry wrote: "Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....but my ..."Yeah..Adam & Eve were first...
And there was sin....thus God had Moses climb Mt Sinai and write down his 10 commandments....because sin was everywhere!
Krishna wrote: "why gaining knowledge is a sin???????? eating that fruit meant that only isn't it?"you're picking up on a good point Krishna...No true God would ever say any form of knowledge is not allowed for humans...
There is a reverse theory about this - that Adam & Eve were actually doing the right thing in trying to get extra knowledge...check out the Adam & Eve post in the religious Forbidden history of the Bible section
Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....
but my questi..."
I don't recall any mention of Adam & Eve being meant to live forever....anywhere in the bible....they were not gods....they were simply creatd in his image.
And if there were still dinosaurs roaming around....why weren't any in the Garden of Eden?
Catherine wrote: "Fay wrote: "Catherine wrote: "yes. Mary is imporant...but she's not mentioned in the Old Testament anywhere that I can remember...only in the New Testament....she was human, as was Jesus....b..."
Maybe the dinosaurs were killed by eating the forbidden apple, where they learned all knowledge, including the knowledge that sometime in the future they would be ridiculed by James Morcan and promptly committed suicide.
Krishna wrote: "why gaining knowledge is a sin???????? eating that fruit meant that only isn't it?"If they ate the fruit then they'd understand what evil was, they'd understand sin and they'd have more of a craving to do it.
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