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"BALL UP!" - Val's 2024 Aussie Rules Footy Tipping *Open to Everyone*

Once signed in he should be able to access the Amazon Exiles forum is at:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...
and the 2024 tipping comp at:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
I can give him average scores for the Opening Round and Round 1.

Melbourne Demons (on hiatus) v Western Bulldogs (Blastro)
4.4.28 (Q1) 4.3.27
8.5.53 (Q2) 6.5.41
10.8.68 (Q3) 7.7.49
16.13.109 (Q4) 9.10.64
Port Adelaide Power (available) v West Coast Eagles (Sussex) v
3.6.24 (Q1) 33.1.19
9.10.64 (Q2) 5.3.33
11.15.81 (Q3) 7.7.49
16.24.120 (Q4) 10.10.70
Fremantle Dockers (available) v Brisbane Lions (David)
2.2.14 (Q1) 4.3.27
7.5.47 (Q2) 4.5.29
11.9.75 (Q3) 5.7.37
14.9.93 (Q4) 10.10.70

Round 1 (first number is correct number of wins - you want this to be high; number in brackets is the cumulative margin which is used to separate punters on the same amount of points - you want this to be low)
Tim on 8 (27)
Val on 7 (5)
SussexWelsh on 7 (37)
Sj Brooke (Steve) on 6 (18)
Philip on 6 (25)
Duke on 5 (13)
Anita on 5 (19)
Suzy on 2 (12)
Our tipsters' ladder is as follows:
Round 1 (first number is correct number of wins - you want this to be high; number in brackets is the cumulative margin which is used to separate punters on the same amount of points - you want this to be low)
Charity donations are:
Duke (Centre For Eye Research Australia) - A$7.00 - Highest score (Giants - 121)
Val (Asylum Seeker Resource Centre) - A$7.00 (closest margin)
Tim (Koala Hospital - Port Macquarie) - A$12.00 (weekly winner)
CUMULATIVE LADDER:
Tim on 10 (42)
Sj Brooke (Steve) on 9 (39)
SussexWelsh on 9 (47)
Duke on 8 (18)
Val on 8 (38)
Anita on 7 (24)
Philip on 7 (52)
Suzy on 4 (41)
Congratulations to Tim (his faith in Freo paid off) and Duke has got off to a flier.

If anyone would like to view the AFL Ladder before submitting next week's tips, it's at http://www.afl.com.au/ladder
or https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ladder
ROUND 2
Thursday March 21
St Kilda Saints v Collingwood Magpies (in Melbourne)
Friday March 22
Adelaide Crows v Geelong Cats (in Adelaide)
Saturday March 23
North Melbourne Kangaroos v Fremantle Dockers (in Melbourne)
Hawthorn Hawks v Melbourne Demons (in Melbourne)
Sydney Swans v Essendon Bombers (in Sydney)
Sunday March 24
Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast Suns (in Ballarat)
Richmond Tigers v Port Adelaide Power (in Melbourne)
West Coast Eagles v GWS Giants (in Perth)
BYE: Brisbane Lions, Carlton Blues
If punters could lodge their tips by midnight WEDNESDAY Mar 20 (your time) it would be a great help, although I can accept them up until 8.15am THURSDAY (your time) if absolutely necessary.

ADELAIDE CROWS: Must lift away.
BRISBANE LIONS:GF curse official.
CARLTON: New clutch kings?
COLLINGWOOD: Still waking up.
ESSENDON: A Perkins perk-up.
FREMANTLE: 2022 not 2023?
GEELONG: A fitting homecoming.
GOLD COAST SUNS: Lynch-less... Tex-less... 2-0!
GWS GIANTS: Sydney derby GF?
HAWTHORN: Inaccuracy the killer.
MELBOURNE: More like it.
NORTH MELBOURNE: We like Northball.
PORT ADELAIDE: Most behinds ever!
RICHMOND: Brave and bruised.
ST KILDA: Bonner a bargain.
SYDNEY SWANS: Surely Heeney stays?
WEST COAST EAGLES: 23 more weeks....

Saints by 10
Cats
North Melbourne.
Demons
Swans
Suns
Port
Giants

Adelaide Crows
Fremantle Dockers
Melbourne Demons
Sydney Swans
Western Bulldogs
Port Adelaide Power
GWS Giants

It was a great gig at such a small venue.

P.S. Did you see my message re the M.T.C. play "37"? Highly recommended. I'm sure you'll recognise the jumper number.




I was at the match against Carlton and his wonderful tribal dance took place just in front of us. I dont think anyone appreciated what he was going through at the time.
He provided so many memories in my first few seasons as a supporter although I suspect I missed his best years. Of course he was playing alongside a young Buddy in that period.
Last night I hadn't thought Garrett, being so serious, could also be very funny. Think he was very relaxed and happy in front of a small audience.

I always liked Micky O'Loughlin's defuser. Something along the lines of "Shame Adam wasn't a better dancer."
It is to the AFL's eternal shame that Adam Goodes left the game under such a cloud after the terrible treatment he endured. The fact that he wasn't able to celebrate his stellar career, both as a player and a man, at that year's Grand Final parade of retiring champions still sticks in the gullet.

Pies x 19
Crows
Freo (uneasy feeling about this tip)
Dees
Swans (glad I don't have to pick the margin for this game!)
Dogs
Port
Giants

St Kilda Saints (Tim) v Collingwood Magpies (on hiatus)
5.1.31 (Q1) 3.1.19
6.2.38 (Q2) 7.4.46
11.7.73 (Q3) 8.5.53
14.10.94 (Q4) 12.7.79
Once again, I may have tipped the Pies but there is nothing as satisfying as seeing them get beaten. 0-3 - what a dream start to the season for all us Collingwood haters! Well done St Kilda for throwing everything at the reigning premiers and not losing their cool at any point.
And well done Tim for picking the closest margin (Saints x 10). You win another $7.00 for the Koala Hospital at Port Macquarie.


Adelaide Crows (Dean) v Geelong Cats (available)
3.2.20 (Q1) 6.3.39
5.5.35 (Q2) 7.5.47
8.7.55 (Q3) 12.7.79
11.11.77 (Q4) 14.12.96
Tim, Sussex and Suzy are on a roll - the rest of us, not so much.

Seems to me everyone is going on about The Swans (maybe rightly but its only 2 matches) and The Bombers have big players returning this evening.

The Bombers may be getting a few players back but they've also lost Parish, Redman, Reid and Ridley. The Swans play so well on the smaller ground, I expect them to really expose the Bombers' weaknesses.

Agree it was the case they played well on their small gound but they did revel at the G last weekend and stretched The Pies all over the place. We shall see. What is annoying is the fact that for the second week running The Reds and The Swans are starting again within 5 minutes of each other. In this case there is little reason as The Reds are playing in Perth but the match kicks off locally at 4 35 making it 7 35 here in Melbourne. They normally start at 7ish in Perth. Could be a hot one. The Sheffield Shield final is currently on in Perth and that looked very hot for the first 2 days.

It will be interesting to see how the tribunal judges Peter Wright given their inconsistencies already this year. I don't know how James Sicily won his appeal but Mason Redman got rubbed out for a fairly innocuous contact (but then I would say that, wouldn't I?) I thought Wright had his eye on the ball up until the last minute when he turned his shoulder and dropped his eyes.
I suppose the teams do have history too. Luke Parker's jibes at Dylan Shiel; Dane Rampe's climbing the goal post and shaking it; Plugger's behind in the 1996 Preliminary Final, beating Essendon by a point. And you can probably come up with some examples where the Swans felt hard done by. Mind you in the three examples I've given, the Swans won each time. I must admit I've never quite forgiven Rampe for yelling from the boundary that North had too many players on the field and thus denied the Roos an inspirational win in a season where they hardly won any games. I know Rampe was right but he had no business coaching from the boundary when Lachie Hunter of Melbourne got a $1500 fine for yelling at a Hawthorn player (also from the boundary).
That's the thing about footy though - we're all one-eyed when it's our team!

North Melbourne Kangaroos (Steve) v Fremantle Dockers (available)
4.1.25 (Q1) 2.1.13
8.4.52 (Q2) 5.5.35
9.5.59 (Q3) 12.10.82
11.10.76 (Q4) 15.12.102
Hawthorn Hawks (available) v Melbourne Demons (on hiatus)
0.1.1 (Q1) 5.3.33
2.3.15 (Q2) 6.5.41
4.6.30 (Q3) 10.7.67
5.8.38 (Q4) 14.9.93
Sydney Swans (Anita) v Essendon Bombers (Val)
4.4.28 (Q1) 4.1.25
8.9.57 (Q2) 8.5.53
13.13.91 (Q3) 10.8.68
19.17.131 (Q4) 15.11.101

Thought Bombers were on top in first half but so pleased the way Swans came back particularly at the end. Gulden and Heeney were magnificent and Chad Warner just kept running.


I rarely speak positively about my teams for fear that they will crumble but I really feel the Swans can go on from here. I hope I do not regret this on Easter Sunday at the G against Richmond.




When The Swans Return - Weddings Parties Anything
I spent my youth down by the markets near the docks
We went chasing all the wharfies girls in their cheap floral frocks
I spent my money at them waterside hotels
We were regulars at all of them the barmen knew us well
Six o'clock was closing then we would swill then travel home
or drink some bottles on the beach
Then when winter came around we'd head down to the oval
We'd stand there in the freezing cold, watch our heroes train
Chorus:
Because there's just so many tricks that an old dog he can learn
and I will spend my life a waiting 'til the Swans return
I earnt my money doing this and doing that
I could never seem to stick at anything
I'd turn my hand to almost any job of work
and it was funny how my luck would run, I'd look after number one
Then when the depression came it was time to hit the track
There was no point starving in the town
Told my Mum that I would write, and my old man that I'd be back
By footy season, couldn't let our heroes down
Chorus:
Because there's just so many tricks that an old dog he can learn
and I will spend my life a waiting 'til the Swans return
Bridge:
Well I was down the Star and Garter when the news it came
There was nothin' anyone could do nor anyone could say
So we will fill a flowing glass to a team that's gone
but we're drinking to the red and white (to some of us it'll always be South Melbourne)
Chorus:
Because there's just so many tricks that an old Blood he can learn
and I will spend my life a waiting
I will spend my life a hating
Oh I can't do nought but bleeding, 'til the Swans return
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5CY8...
(This clip by WPA frontman and songwriter Mick Thomas isn't as good as the recorded version but it's the only one available)
and
The Day John Sattler Broke His Jaw - Perry Keyes, a rusted on Rabbitohs fan (more recently covered by Perry's good friend Tim Freedman of The Whitlams)
Sunrise on the station breaks the morning's spell
Red and green streamers flyin' outside the Railway View Hotel
Cleveland Street shuffles shinin' into the mighty roar
We were walkin' through the twilight the day John Sattler broke his jaw
Livin' eight to a house, post Menzies' Land of Plenty
But there was nothin' left for people like us in September 1970
Some worked the Eveleigh railway yards, some worked the tanneries on the Botany shore
We didn't work the Saturday that John Sattler broke his jaw
Chorus:
If it's high enough, if it's long enough, if it's straight between the posts
Drink your beer but shed no tears for these days you miss the most
Every step and sill sat shinin' in Black-It from door to door
And the tears rolled down like Reschs the day John Sattler broke his jaw
Saturday morning on the Botany Road was mean and it was lean
Rabbit killers in old Ford Falcons stallin' through a richer man's dream
By afternoon we were jammed tight inside the hotel doors
Even the T.A.B. was empty the day John Sattler broke his jaw
Chorus:
If it's high enough, if it's long enough, if it's straight between the posts
Drink your beer but shed no tears for these days you miss the most
Every step and sill sat shinin' in Black-It from door to door
And the tears rolled down like Reschs the day John Sattler broke his jaw
In the Ladies Lounge a young girl rocks a pram
Some old guy downs a Flag Ale with the ghost of Dave Sands
Clothes lines fly high, the sun sinks behind the flats
Where stoned girls walk in circles with their babies on their backs
As big trucks roll down wide streets with heroin filled storm drains
Suburban towns turn blue and brown and use old wars for their street names
They sent you down to Campbelltown to Mount Druitt and St Marys
Young Labor sits stoned in a terrace house, the Sydney Swans on Pay TV
Chorus:
If it's high enough, if it's long enough, if it's straight between the posts
Drink your beer but shed no tears for these days you miss the most
Every step and sill sat shinin' in Black-It from door to door
And the tears rolled down like Reschs the day John Sattler broke his jaw
And the tears rolled down like Reschs the day John Sattler broke his jaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6OuM...

Western Bulldogs (Blastro) v Gold Coast Suns (Suzy)
9.1.55 (Q1) 2.2.14
10.3.63 (Q2) 5.5.35
14.4.88 (Q3) 9.6.60
18.7.115 (Q4) 10.7.67
Richmond Tigers (Philip) v Port Adelaide Power (available)
3.2.20 (Q1) 3.7.25
7.8.50 (Q2) 5.9.39
11.11.77 (Q3) 12.12.84
13.14.92 (Q4) 18.14.122
West Coast Eagles (Sussex) v GWS Giants (Duke)
2.3.15 (Q1) 5.4.34
2.5.17 (Q2) 8.8.56
2.7.19 (Q3) 11.11.77
5.13.43 (Q4) 16.12.108

Round 2 (first number is correct number of wins - you want this to be high; number in brackets is the cumulative margin which is used to separate punters on the same amount of points - you want this to be low)
SussexWelsh on 7 (6)
Tim on 6 (5)
Sj Brooke (Steve) on 6 (23)
Val on 6 (34)
Duke on 5 (20)
Philip on 5 (31)
Anita on 5 (44)
Suzy on 3 (8)
Charity donations are:
Anita (The Mirabel Foundation) - A$7.00 - Highest score (Swans - 131)
Tim (Koala Hospital - Port Macquarie) - A$7.00 (closest margin)
Sussex (Save The Bilby Fund) - A$12.00 (weekly winner)
CUMULATIVE LADDER:
Tim on 16 (47)
SussexWelsh on 16 (53)
Sj Brooke (Steve) on 15 (62)
Val on 14 (72)
Duke on 13 (38)
Philip on 13 (83)
Anita on 12 (68)
Suzy on 7 (49)
Please check your scores!!!
Nice to see the money getting spread around this week. Congratulations to Sussex for showing the rest of us how it's done!

If anyone would like to view the AFL Ladder before submitting next week's tips, it's at http://www.afl.com.au/ladder
or https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ladder
ROUND 3
Thursday March 28
Brisbane Lions v Collingwood Magpies (in Brisbane)
Friday March 29
North Melbourne Kangaroos v Carlton Blues (in Melbourne
Fremantle Dockers v Adelaide Crows (in Perth)
Saturday March 30
Essendon Bombers v St Kilda Saints (in Melbourne)
Port Adelaide Power v Melbourne Demons (in Adelaide)
Sunday March 31
Western Bulldogs v West Coast Eagles (in Melbourne)
Richmond Tigers v Sydney Swans (in Melbourne)
Monday April 1
Hawthorn Hawks v Geelong Cats (in Melbourne)
BYE: Gold Coast Suns, GWS Giants
If punters could lodge their tips by midnight WEDNESDAY Mar 27 (your time) it would be a great help, although I can accept them up until 8.15am THURSDAY (your time) if absolutely necessary.

ADELAIDE CROWS: Don’t look right.
BRISBANE LIONS: Had the bye.
CARLTON: Had the bye.
COLLINGWOOD: MUST beat Brisbane.
ESSENDON: Midfield big tick.
FREMANTLE: Body clock game?
GEELONG: It’s 2022 again!
GOLD COAST SUNS: Midfield reality check.
GWS GIANTS: Cruisy trip west.
HAWTHORN: Still rebuilding year.
MELBOURNE: Not the defenders!
NORTH MELBOURNE: Gap to Eagles.
PORT ADELAIDE: Survived few scares.
RICHMOND: Effort is there.
ST KILDA: Here they come.
SYDNEY SWANS: Midfield can improve.
WEST COAST EAGLES: Jeez they’re bad.

old tram route along Harris Street. The whole area has an old history of heavy industrialisation and the main employer was CSR as a sugar refinery. Today there are only a few reminders of this time but there are bits of the old machinery and wharfs to be seen.
We have also heard of the old 6 o'clock swill which sounds horrendous and I believe remained in Victoria until 1966. In Sydney Pyrmont was on the main route out of the CBD and its pubs became regular stops for drivers to down a few beers for the journey home. Great safety.
My friend Chris has been a Swan fan since they moved to Sydney in the early 1980's soI know he will love these songs so many thanks.

EDIT: I believe the Eveleigh Railway Workshops are now the site of Australian Technology Park. I vaguely remember seeing something on Getaway or one of those programmes about keeping some of the metalworking crafts alive.

I will watch the links you sent.

We could find a pub where it is warm,
Study up our racing form,
Hit the TAB, we'll blow our money there, tell me this -
Is there anywhere you'd rather be
Than with me at the MCG,
And if the Saints get done again,
By Christ, I couldn't care.
Billy Bragg (not an Aussie!) also sings about the Saints in his "Yarra Song":
There's a chill tonight on the Yarra
Winter is creeping in
While far away my loved ones
Wake up in England's spring
And although delights await me
All the way to Flinders Street
It's that little piece of heaven
With which they must compete
When The Saints take on The Magpies
Some day too far away
I barrack for St. Kilda
In that funny game they play
But my heart's not really in it
My mind wanders to a town
Where The Hammers sing "I'm forever blowing bubbles"
And the rain comes pouring down
Yes, it's still raining in England
Guess that's why I like it here
There's a brolly in my hotel room
For when the skies aren't clear
'Cos it never rains in Sydney
And it never rains in Perth
Adelaide's a desert
And Brisbane's just scorched earth
So excuse me please such days as there
And send me to the town
Where the children sing when St. Kilda win
And the rain comes falling down
So wake me up tomorrow
And send me home again
To where The Hammers sing "I'm forever blowing bubbles"
In the pouring London rain
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Anyway..hopefully he find his in, and join in with our rabble lot! :)