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What is “underground knowledge” and why is it important?

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message 1: by James, Group Founder (last edited Mar 27, 2015 05:59AM) (new)

James Morcan | 11246 comments What follows is our definition for the term "underground knowledge". This essay (covered in this post and the next) also aims to outline why we believe underground knowledge is so crucial for our present society.

Essentially the term “underground knowledge” covers details and concepts and little-known events that are usually not reported in the Mainstream Media (MSM), or if they are mentioned by MSM they are underreported for various reasons. Likewise, underground knowledge is usually not taught at universities in history courses or other academic fields, or if it is it's often whizzed over (e.g. the radical science of Nikola Tesla is briefly taught at universities of the world but not in any great detail compared to say the more mainstream and agreed-upon science of Newton and Einstein).

Keep in mind knowledge is not simply facts – it’s also theories. For example, one could study in detail an economic theory from the 1950s which economists now universally agree and have proven to be an incorrect or impossible theory. However, studying such disproven theories is still just as much knowledge as studying anything else. Equally, one could study the history of famous lies told or grand hoaxes (all shown to be not factual) and knowing these historical details would also amount to a form of knowledge.

Therefore, many topics in this group, by their very nature will and must go beyond facts and explore various theories in order to cover all possible angles...angles that are not covered by MSM or mainstream academia.

The challenge this group faces, of course, is that the subjects explored are often in direct contrast with the way most of us view the world, and they invariably contradict the official line – the line that politicians, corporate leaders and other persons of influence convincingly peddle – that most of us have been conditioned to accept without questioning since childhood.

It’s our experience that people are prepared to entertain unfamiliar hypotheses when they are incorporated into novels or movies, but are considerably less open-minded when there’s no cozy fictional plot to soften the digestion of such concepts.

To counter this, we have avoided speculation wherever possible in our original posts in the group and have, for the most part, written about subjects that can be backed with facts. These facts include evidence substantiated in court cases, declassified government files, MSM reports and well-documented quotes from respected leaders in their fields. Wherever we do briefly deviate into pure speculation, we try to point that out so the dividing line between fact and rumor is always clear.

And note also that the aforementioned facts and evidence do not necessarily mean absolute proof: there’s a difference between evidence and proof and sometimes certain theories will garner enough evidence over time to be proven while others will be disproven due to no further evidence resulting.

The advantage we all have in this group over more mainstream outlets is we can debate facts AND theories and at least put all ideas on the table...

message 2: by James, Group Founder (last edited Nov 11, 2019 06:02PM) (new)

James Morcan | 11246 comments The other challenge in advancing this group is that many of the controversial topics can loosely be described as conspiracy, conspiracies or conspiracy theories. As a result, Undergrounders (members of this group) will no doubt be categorized by many as conspiracy theorists.

Unfortunately, these have become dirty words and phrases in our culture. Any time a concern is raised by an individual who has been labeled a conspiracy theorist it’s usually dismissed by most government spokespersons, MSM journalists and the public at large as paranoia, or worse, delusional.

And for the most part, those critics and skeptics are correct!

Probably 95% of conspiracy theories out there are pure crackpot stuff with not a shred of evidence to support them. We are talking the-moon-is-made-out-of-cheese type of theories. Such absurd concepts are espoused by conspiracy theory extremists who we refer to as the “Tinfoil Hat Network” – those who wear tinfoil-lined hats to block mind control frequencies they believe are being beamed their way!

Although nutty notions certainly provide good entertainment value, they also undermine those serious conspiracy theories which warrant investigation.

A good example of theories deserving airtime is the contention that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, which most Western governments have now acknowledged to be true. It was initially brought up by conspiracy theorists BEFORE the West’s invasion of Iraq. Their claims were ignored, of course.

If society was prepared to listen to such individuals without pre-judging them, perhaps future wars could be averted.

Once you understand and accept that there are two types of conspiracy theorists – the “Tinfoil Hatters”, or lunatic fringe, and the more logically-minded – it becomes easy to distinguish between them.

You can spot the Tinfoil Hatters a mile off. They either present silly ideas like Marilyn Monroe being born a man or more dangerous ones like the Holocaust-never-happened – a theory which almost always has its roots in anti-Semitism. The more logically-minded, or sane, conspiracy theorists present more believable and potentially true ideas like there being cover-ups surrounding the deaths of JFK and Princess Diana – theories most Americans and Brits now believe likely, according to mainstream polls.

As WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange succinctly put it: “There are conspiracies everywhere. There are also crazed conspiracy theories. It’s important not to confuse these two.”

Worth noting, also, is that when members of the Establishment mock conspiracy theories, they invariably quote the most bizarre premises that only the most paranoid and unstable in conspiracy circles – yes we refer to the Tinfoil Hatters – actually believe. This has proven to be very effective in undermining the more credible conspiracy theorist who may discover an awkward truth about an administration, a corporation or a well-known individual.

By consistently reminding the public of conspiracy theory extremists who are all clearly one missed-medication away from being locked up in asylums, the global elite are also able to discredit the 5% who may have stumbled on to something legitimate.

So the key with conspiracy theories is not to throw out the baby with the bathwater like the Establishment is relying on you to keep doing. In other words, don’t discard good info or intel with the bad.

A large number of conspiracy theories initially scoffed at have since been proven to be true. A few examples include: “the Gulf of Tonkin Incident” – the fabricated event that started the Vietnam War; “Watergate” – the proven allegation that US President Richard Nixon spied on Democrats; “MK-Ultra” – the Central Intelligence Agency’s extensive mind control program was a conspiracy theory for over two decades until partially declassified in 1975; and “the Dreyfus Affair” – the 19th Century travesty involving the wrongful conviction of artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus by the French Government who later admitted to framing Dreyfus.

More recently, after years of claims by conspiracy theorists that the fabled Area 51, in Nevada, existed, the US Government and the CIA released declassified documents that clearly show it does exist and has existed all along.

We do not profess to be authorities on any of the subjects in this group. Nor do we get into absolutism. On the contrary, very few people alive today can know for sure the whole truth about any of the complex topics covered in this group.

Our attitude when researching or writing about such topics has always been: We know very little. We take that approach when writing books and also when putting this group together and posting a lot of the original topics. In our opinion that’s the best way to tackle conspiracy theories or, indeed, any contentious incidents, policies or claims not publicly acknowledged or admitted to by officialdom.

Many people are programmed to instantly dismiss all conspiracy theories while others are just as ready to gullibly believe every theory fed to them. Both approaches are different sides of the same coin, and that coin is absolutism.

Believing in absolutes is a recipe for dogmatism and ignorance. The middle-path of open-mindedness combined with healthy skepticism seems to be the wisest route to take in our opinion.

Although conspiracy theory is implied in numerous posts in this group, many of the subjects are actually “conspiracy fact”. Meaning they’ve already been confirmed as true by the appropriate authority or validated by the release of declassified documents and the like, but strangely remain categorized as conspiracy theories because confirmation of their validity has been ignored or at the very least not widely reported by mainstream media.

Even though many of the posts in this group contain rare and extraordinary information, it’s surprising how much of it is verifiable and freely available in the public domain – there to be discovered as long as you know what you’re looking for.

In recent years, various celebrities have been branded conspiracy theorists by mainstream media outlets and government departments. These public figures include Martin Sheen, Mark Ruffalo, Rosie O'Donnell, Sharon Stone, Spike Lee, Bruce Willis, Oliver Stone, Willie Nelson, Mos Def, Charlie Sheen, Juliette Binoche, Billy Corgan, Russell Brand, David Lynch, Randy Quaid, Ron Paul, Joe Rogan, Roseanne Barr, Phil Donahue, Jim Carrey, Geraldo Rivera, Robbie Williams, Sean Stone, Prince, Jesse Ventura, Dave Chappelle, Shirley MacLaine, Jim Corr, Henry Rollins, Woody Harrelson and Michael Moore.

This partial list of famous individuals with alternative viewpoints illustrates how being a conspiracy theorist isn’t as rare as it used to be, and may even be trending toward the norm depending on how the term is defined.

That’s not surprising given the balance of power between the state and the individual has swung to an unprecedented degree in favor of the state. Every day, it seems, more civil liberties are being eroded in the name of “national security”.

Events like the bailout of financial institutions ahead of regular citizens during the global financial crisis and the unwelcome post-9/11 foreign conflicts have left many citizens in the West second-guessing their governments.

Surveys have also shown that a big percentage of the public feel they’re being manipulated by corporations, banks, international interests and the media as well as by politicians who appear to have less respect for voters than ever before. It’s almost as if the public sense there must exist within government little-known powerbrokers who are not “for the people”, but against them.

The number of people labeled conspiracy theorists is going to increase exponentially. Internationally, they probably already number hundreds of millions and so can no longer be dismissed as lunatics on the fringes of society.

We set up this group Underground Knowledge to attempt to be at the forefront of this trend we see occurring. The thirst for this hard-to-find information is high and this group is a rare place where all such theories and concepts are being correlated and freely discussed.

And if by constantly questioning the motivations of political administrations and discussing the well-documented nefarious activities of the global elite make Undergrounders conspiracy theorists, then hell, we should all accept that label and wear it with pride!

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