English 2341 Spring 2015 Class discussion

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I enjoy reading Genesis because you see how it all started. Genesis 1-10 focuses on God. How powerful His words are. We see how we were created in God’s image. Throughout Genesis we see the obedience of God’s command by Adam, Noah, and Abel and others. At the same time we see betrayal to God’s commands and that a punishment has to be done. Not only does the punishment affect that person but, the whole family. Not just the bad things but the good things too are spread. We experience the first sin in the Garden of Eden with Satan as the serpent. We see the family descendants of Adam and Eve and their kids. My favorite is Genesis 9:13 God said to Noah, “I have placed My bow in the clouds, and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.” The rainbow we see today after a storm is God’s promise to us.

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I enjoy reading Genesis because you see how it all started. Genesis 1-10 focuses on God. How powerful His words are. We see how we were created in God’s image. Throughout Genesis we see the obedience of God’s command by Adam, Noah, and Abel and others. At the same time we see betrayal to God’s commands and that a punishment has to be done. Not only does the punishment affect that person but, the whole family. Not just the bad things but the good things too are spread. We experience the first sin in the Garden of Eden with Satan as the serpent. We see the family descendants of Adam and Eve and their kids. My favorite is Genesis 9:13 God said to Noah, “I have placed My bow in the clouds, and it will be a sign of the covenant between Me and the earth.” The rainbow we see today after a storm is God’s promise to us.



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I did enjoy reading this section of the bible and this is my personal opinion after reading Genesis chapters 1-11 for the first time, I must say that God was not portrayed in a very favorable light. I want to reiterate that this is MY opinion before I continue, as I was reading I kept getting flash backs to News headlines where Andrea Yates drowns her five children. God seems like a parent who is proud of their children when the children do good but when the children do something against His wishes then he punishes them extensively. After so much disobedience from his children God decides to "cleanse" the earth by sending a massive flood that will wipe out everyone on earth. What this means is that He will kill every man, woman, and CHILD on earth no matter of their innocence's just to "cleanse" the earth of what He doesn't like. In my opinion this sounds just like what mothers who murder their children say, some say that their child was possessed, other claim that their children were not pure or good and that the reason that they murdered their kids. Genesis portrays God as a being that basically throws temper tantrums when His children do not listen. To me Genesis does not do justice to the God that I know and love whom is good all the time and does not throw temper tantrums.

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The first eleven chapters I would characterize God to this person who created earth. In the beginning God created the heaven and earth. God said, let there be light: and there was light. God then created man and from his ribs he created women. And the Lord God cause a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs , and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. Then Eve ate from the forbidden tree and gave to Adam, whom God told them not to eat and they disobeyed him. Then God punished them both Adam had to work all his life and women should bare children with pain for this there would always be evil in life for what they had done. Men and women also lived for hundreds years or more this also let to the growth of human kind. I guess that is why God gave life and death to all that disobeyed him.


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I would characterize God as a very specific being; He does what he wants and he does it right. Though in the beginning, he may seem as a flat character for doing what he wants and getting what he wants. However, in the end, he is a round/dynamic character because of his many attributes. In the Creation of earth, we can see how powerful and giving he is: “2 and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.” In chapter 2 He “7took some soil from the ground and formed man out of it. … 17 “it is not good for man to live alone. I will make a suitable companion to him.” God loves these humans so much that he doesn’t want them to eat of the forbidden tree because if they do “[they] will die the same day.” Now here many may characterize him as mean, controlling and maybe complicated; the thing is that God wanted to be with them always, unfortunately the moment they disobeyed him they had fallen and can never face each other again. The Lord is compassionate as well, he did not harm Cain after he had killed his brother Abel, he even put a mark on him so that nobody could kill him – and of course that is also punishment so that he has to live with guilt and remorse for killing his own brother. The Lord is also regretful, as shown in the flood. He felt sad, remorseful and hated the way humans had become. But can also be just and appreciates those who makes him proud like Noah and his family. He saved them and gave him everything he needed to save himself and his family.


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I would characterize God in two different ways but with the same meaning or same result, first as the mentor who created Adan and Eve and try to guided them in a life of happiness but due to "indiscipline" they were expelled from the beautiful garden that God created for them. Then I would characterize God as a hero who destroy every spoil human being from the face of the earth to give the good hearted people a fresh beginning away from the life of sin. But after this "new" beginning he promise not to mess with the problems of the earth again and left to all humans the responsibility of maintain a peaceful and valuable life with love and kidneys to others.

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I would characterize God in these first 11 chapters of Genesis as a round character because he changes throughout these chapters. In the first chapter he is a creator very dedicated and detailed in his creations and when he sees “It was good,” continues until all is made. He shows love to his creations providing all the needs but of course establishing rules to follow. These rules are set not as a dictator but more of Father who wishes the best upon his. Like a Father punishments are acquired for disobedience of those rules and although they seem harsh, in these punishments we see his almighty power. In Genesis 6:5 “GOD saw wickedness of man was great in earth,” and continues in Genesis 6:6 “it grieved him at his heart.” This was an emotional part of the reading for me for I felt for God. Here he shows emotion like any other would when they have troubled children, he became very real to me. He is sad and as a Father again has a harsh punishment. God loves and can be characterized as a protector but also shows there are consequences of not abiding by His ordinances. The main reason these were established was to maintain a close relationship and guidance with human beings. Although his punishments for those who disobeyed him may seem extreme characterizing him as evil, I would see it as providing tough love.



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In would Characterize God in the first eleven chapters of the book of the bible; stated that God it the creator of the world and mankind. The God had simple rule for Adam and Eve to follow. God is said to be a vengeful God, when not being honored. God is a loving to all creatures. God had consideration to give the right of free will. Unfortunately, mankind fail to listen to God. Mankind had to understand the serious circumstances of the disobedience. God did redirect mankind and gave them a second chance. And left mankind to redeem themselves. All God wanted for mankind to bond and have close relationship. God shows different types of love toward mankind, even though mostly some of his creations that follow or strain away.

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Well, for starters, the Book of Genesis is, in literal aspect, a short story (a narration if you will). As for God, throughout the first 11 chapters goes through a sort of transformation. In the beginning, God would be dubbed a flat character. His manner of actions and tone does not change and stays constant throughout the first chapters of Genesis: "And God saw the light; that it was good...And god saw that it was good...it was very good" (1: 4, 12, 31 KJV) As we move on to the upcoming chapters, we see a shift of character from God being a flat character to a round character. We see this change when Adam and Eve are cast out of the garden of Eden for eating of the forbidden fruit. "Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken...So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life" (3: 23 - 24 KJV) Here we see the addition of the word 'Lord' in the story. Did the author purposely do this in order to show the transformation of God? In many ways, I believe so. Another example of this can be seen in chapter 6 of the Book of Genesis: "And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it it repenteth me that I have made them." (6:7 KJV) Notice instead of using 'God' it has become 'Lord'. This only goes to show how God as a flat character, transformed into a round character.



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For sure I can say that throughout the eleven chapters that I read, God for sure can't be seen as a flat character. I personally feel like God changes in every chapter. I would say that God can defientely been seen as a dynamic character. A dynamic character is someone who goes through change throughout the story. We can say that God goes through a sort of transformation throughout the story. At the beginning of the story they describe to us how God creates the Earth, such as the water, the animals, the air, Adam & Eve. God keeps repeating the same words throughout the first few chapter, "and it was good". For some reason this is being related so I would say that this is important. We can see a major change in God when Adam and Eve disobey him by eating from the tree that he told them not too. After he found this out he made both Adam and Eve work for their survival. So I would say God does go through a change throughout the story. He never stays the same.

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The first chapter's were very intresting I coulp picture everything how beautiful God's creation were. God can be seen as a flat creation in the beginning he is seen as a flat character who's creations were all great but later in the chapter's we see how God actually changes so he can be interpreted as a dynamic character.

Amanda, I appreciate your observations of God’s character moving from one end of the spectrum to the other. As you pointed out, he cares for Adam and Eve, giving them everything they need. Conversely, after mankind repeatedly sins God destroys everyone except for the one family that remained faithful to him. Even though the change in actions may have been a reaction to mankind, this shows how God can be identified as a round character in Genesis 1-11.

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Elizabeth, I like the perspective you took regarding God’s actions. You indicated that he could be identified as a parent, instead of a dictator. This can be seen from the way he provided for Adam and Eve, ensuring they had everything they needed. Punishment was carried out when they were ousted from the Garden of Eden, also similar to a parent. With Genesis being written in this manner it seems many people can identify with God’s actions and motives.

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Elizabeth, I agree with your point of view on your response on Genesis and how God played a role of a round character. God did his greatest on creating in just six days, until Adam and Eve disobeyed God. Like you mentioned “Like a Father punishments are acquired for disobedience of those rules and although they seem harsh, in these punishments we see his almighty power”

Lindsay I totally agree with your view on Genesis, God seems to be a flat character and changes through the chapters and becomes a round character. You mentioned how everything was good, because of Gods creations. You noticed how GOD changed and became LORD on 2:4. However like you mentioned “God displays regret for his creation when he says: “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them”.

I completely agree with your view of Gods characterization in these 11 chapters. I didn't note the change in names referred to when spoken of God. This change is another way we see God's character change from flat to round.

I am happy to see that you were able to read of God's creation and what is considered our beginning. The examples you provide of the reading allow us to see the consequences of the disobedience.

You are right Luis, God see the world differently because he created earth and everything in it. God created Adam and Eve but he also punishes them for eating from the forbidden tree. This causes God to punish all human kind.

Eduardo, there is a lot of thing that I did not know about and one was the ages. I am still confused how they lived so long.

Thanks, Rebeca I was confused about what kind of character God was. I guess he started as a flat character to a dynamic character.

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Yes, mankind had to understand the serious circumstances of the disobedience and its consequences. The Lord is compassionate as well, he did not harm Cain after he had killed his brother Abel, and he even put a mark on him so that nobody could kill him.

God created a woman from the man’s rib. I appreciate that you were able to see how powerful and magnificent God was on these chapters about the Genesis. I agree with you, God may be seen as a cruel and punisher, but it is true, he gave man the capacity to decide what is good and bad.

You are right God is the protagonist in this story. It is so amazing how God created the universe. I do agree with you, I also think that this part is the moment when he change to a round character; “And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before Me; for the Earth is filled with violence through them; and behold I will destroy them with the Earth.” Also, when I was reading your last sentence, I felt too much anger just to image that little and defenseless creature of God suffer in consequence of that people. It is unacceptable.

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I think you mentioned a good point when you said god whatever he wanted he did and how powerful he was and how he created man and woman, basically god had control over everything.

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I agree when you said that god at the beginning was a flat character but then changed to a round character and how God created earth and demonstrated love to his creations in this case man in general but also how he punished them because they disobey his orders.

it is interesting that you mentioned the days God took to create earth and with that he demonstrated his power over everything and how you mentioned your anger because of the suffer of creature of God.




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I agree with you Senaida Genesis focuses on the creation of the earth from the beginning and although theirs alot of interpretations of the Genesis,we can see that the first creative act of God.

Luis, I also see the power of God and his righteousness in the Genesis.In Adam and Eve we see how they betrayed God and as a punishment God condemn and expel them from Eden.God is seen as a fair god as well as a reasonable.

I agree with you Rebecca I also view God to be a flat character.In the beginning of his creations he is satisfied by what he has created yet thru out the chapters of Genesis he changes character to dynamic as he repents in creating humanity.

I agree with you in your summary of the reading. I understand what you're trying to say about why God punish then when they disobey him. You did not really answer the question but I did understand your summary.

I see what you're saying Eduardo is difficult to take the book of Genesis literally since science does say that the world was created in the process of trillions of years. I do think that the creation was the way it says in the books but based that in the fact that God is an all present God and the concept of time does not affect him countless years may have been passing between each day in the creation. Not actually 24 hour days.

In every story I'm also surprised on how involved God is in every thing that is happening. Even though he is not being talked about he is always ready to be introduced in the story. He is able to provide big changed on each story.

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Jorge wrote: "I consider God as a flat character at the begging of the chapter because everything was how he wanted to be, but through the chapters his characterization changed to be round because God reacts in ..."
I agree with you when you say there was a transformation of God from the first chapters to the next. God was flat character by always saying that everything was 'well and good' (1: 31 KJV) and then He changed character to a round character when he performed the flood to wipe away all the sinful man from the earth. The transformation can be seen throughout the rest of Genesis as it goes on.

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I agree in genesis God can be characterized as a round and flat character. You see both what happens when you obey him and when you do not obey him.

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I would not say he changes I would say he shows his true self. You can see how he punished those who did not obey him and how he rewarded those who obeyed him. As you read later through the other chapters you can see the difference of Gods character after Jesus is born.

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The book of “Genesis” I noticed that it is written in a third person narrative. In the beginning, God appears as flat because his behavior and how he is described is without change. God is merciful, everything is good and perfect. Then, God changes his behavior and punishes, and shows his wrath after seeing that sin is present showing him as a round character. I enjoyed reading Genesis because, even though I don’t believe these things actually happened, it is interesting and has drama and mystery and suspense. I like reading stories where characters change around and are not flat. It is interesting seeing how God gave everything to Adam and Eve and still temptation could not be discarded. The question really is,… if God made them “perfect” and gave them everything, why did he give them the power of will and why did he make them weak to fall for temptation? Did God made those decisions on purpose?
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