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message 1: by Drace (last edited Nov 30, 2023 08:09AM) (new)

Drace (dracenines) | 7399 comments Posting this thread to get some input on how to handle an error correction request before I start an actual questions/corrections thread.

I was looking at the book Children of Ash and Elm: A History of the Vikings by Neil Price on Goodreads, and I noticed that the most-read hardcover edition of the book has a number of discrepancies.

Link to the book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

- The book does not have any ISBNs listed.

- Despite having the name of the book's UK publisher listed (Allen Lane), this edition uses the American cover art (which was never used for any UK edition - all of the UK editions of the book have a picture of rusted ancient weapons on the cover).

- The UK editions of the book were published under the title The Children of Ash and Elm (the American version drops the "The"), but even though this edition has the UK publisher on its page, it has the American version of the title.

- The publication date is completely off - no edition of the book, whether UK, US, or anywhere else, was published in March 2020.

- Both the US hardcover (ISBN 9780465096985) and the UK hardcover (ISBN 9780241283981) have pages on the site already.


As a result, I believe that this is an invalid copy, likely added to the site before the book was released, created by Frankenstein-ing details from the UK and USA editions together. The course of action I would probably take is making a thread in the Superlibrarians folder to ask that it be merged with the US hardcover, but I wanted to get more input from other librarians before doing so.

Thanks for any insight into this you might be able to give.


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Drace (dracenines) | 7399 comments Been a couple of days so I'm giving this a bump. Again, thanks to anyone who can point me in the right direction here.


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Drace (dracenines) | 7399 comments Giving this another bump to try to get some input.


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Drace (dracenines) | 7399 comments Another bump for visibility.


message 5: by Javier (new)

Javier (palchetti) | 30397 comments Just chiming in to say there is a Librarian note in the edit book page of that entry: "Alternate cover edition of ISBN 9780241283981"


message 6: by Drace (last edited Dec 11, 2023 09:56AM) (new)

Drace (dracenines) | 7399 comments Javier wrote: "Just chiming in to say there is a Librarian note in the edit book page of that entry: "Alternate cover edition of ISBN 9780241283981""

I feel like that might librarian note might be inaccurate, too, since there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense if it is an ACE. The ISBN listed there is for the UK edition, and the UK edition has always been published under the title "The Children of Ash and Elm", whereas the US edition is always just "Children of Ash and Elm". Why would an ACE of a UK edition use the US title that it's never been published under in the UK? Plus given that the US and UK editions were published by entirely different publishing corporations (US by Hachette, UK by Penguin), I would expect that there's copyrights on each different cover art that prevents the other publisher from using it.

There's also the issue of the publication date.


message 7: by Renske (new)

Renske | 12220 comments This edition has several changes by different people, without change comments and with some time between them. So some mix up is quite possible.
The edition was created in 2018, so the early 2020 publication date can be explained.

To prove a cover has never been used for a certain ISBN can be very hard, but as far as I know different publishers is one of the clearer points to prove it.

The ACE can also be explained if someone wasn't aware this was possibly a wrong cover and therefore created an ACE instead of editing.

But if this is enough to decide this edition never has existed, I don't know for sure.


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