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Did pip do the right thing and kill jason?

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Isabella Crist I know its a very unpopular opinion but I think she should has waited and told detective hawkins.


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Isabella wrote: "I know its a very unpopular opinion but I think she should has waited and told detective hawkins."
Maybe, but I don't think that would have been effective?


Eleanor McCall Layla wrote: "Isabella wrote: "I know its a very unpopular opinion but I think she should has waited and told detective hawkins."
Maybe, but I don't think that would have been effective?"

I think she did exactly what she should have he would have never believed her


message 4: by lyndi ♡ (last edited Dec 05, 2023 07:58PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

lyndi ♡ i don't think it was the right thing to do. killing anyone isn't the right thing to do, even if they're a killer themselves. she should've just escaped and called the cops. it'd be better to sentence jason to a life in prison and misery than to kill him.


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A. I don't know if it was right or wrong, but what I do know is that it made me completely shocked. Hell of a plot twist in my opinion. I loved how as you read more, you could feel Pip become more and more paranoid, traumatised, and eventually burst.


Meghan McMenamin I think that she did what she had to do In that moment she was scared and angry, everyone in that situation would have at least debated it .


Eleanor McCall I agree


Sienna I agree, its honestly a hard decision where I side with this topic. Because if she did not kill Jason and told the cops, they wouldn't have been much help and wouldn't believe her, but at the same time, the police eventually found out her was the DT killer. On the other hand, Pip didn't want him to hurt anyone ever again, but was killing him the right thing to do? Overall I was shocked when it happened and had to put the book down for a bit to process.


Violet Lyndi wrote: "i don't think it was the right thing to do. killing anyone isn't the right thing to do, even if they're a killer themselves. she should've just escaped and called the cops. it'd be better to senten..."
I feel the same way, but there was a chance that Jason might have caught up to her before she could run away. I know he would first return to the building and then search for her, but considering she was on foot, and propably didn't know the area well, there were still chances.Maybe she could have hit him but not till the point of death because that can be called "self defense". honestly, I was just caught off-guard because I wasn't expecting her to actually kill him but then I was kind of glad that she killed him.


Sienna Violet wrote: "Lyndi wrote: "i don't think it was the right thing to do. killing anyone isn't the right thing to do, even if they're a killer themselves. she should've just escaped and called the cops. it'd be be..."

No, I agree, I was happy she killed him. At the same time, I was upset because it made the situation much more complex with the story with her having to cover up the murder and possibly going to jail. In addition, putting everyone else at risk, episcally her and Ravi's relationship


becca i couldn't tell you whether what she did was morally the right thing, however what she did put her in an incredibly risky situation and caused her to spiral deeper into trauma and paranoia. if she had of just got out of there safely, she wouldn't of had to destroy her relationship with her friends and, most importantly, ravi. killing jason seemed to have a greater negative effect on pip, i mean her character is unrecognisable from her version in the first book. i do gotta say, i miss that quirky and eager version of the old pip.


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Lucy Carlyle I think that it was at this point that Pip reached her breaking point. Being stalked, threatened, nearly killed, having blood on her hands, being betrayed, etc. She became a whole new person and just snapped. I think she did the wrong thing for the right reasons


Lamia Taam No, that shit hunts you for life.
She could've waited a bit and reported him, or exposed him on her podcast


Dee's Booknook In my opinion, I think Pip did make the right decision.

She's spent the last few years, putting all the pieces together of the tragic death of Andie and Sal. Lets not forget all the details that have gone into each individual person. Why Andie was the way she was; why Sal was murdered and so on.

Jason was a monster. Awful to his family, and selfish enough to let others go to prison for his actions.

Jason had to end.

Some people kill because they are bad people. Some people kill to get rid of bad people.


Reading&Reeses I can understand Pip's reasons for killing Jason, and I think it really added a new layer and thrill for the book. So my answer: in terms of reading and books, yes she should have killed him as it makes the story more suspenseful and thrilling to read. In terms of if this was a real life situation, no she should have only knocked Jason out, called the police, show the evidence of the duct tape and then put Jason in prison. Coz now Pip has just messed her life up. It is also never morally right to kill someone.


maddie YES. good for her dude.


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Nat Da Silva I think killing him was right and wrong… By killing him she made herself a criminal and has to live with herself. In the second book she keeps imagining blook on her hands? What about now? I mean she literally killed someone. Although Jason Bell was wrong, maybe she could’ve changed him?


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Nandita I think her killing him could have been justified as self defence, but then everything that followed was too twisted and just had this sense of wrongness attached to it. Even when I was actively rooting for Pip and Ravi to get away with what they did, part of me was still conflicted - if not about the consequences (Max going to jail), then about the way they went about achieving that result.
End of the day, Pip had always been all for TRUTH. It didn't matter that no one realized it, for her, finding out the truth had always been the endgame. So, what she did in AGAD is in direct contradiction to everything she stands for, and I don't think she could ever be okay with that, deep down. Her conscience and her values and moral compass won't let her.
However, one redeeming factor is how willing she had been to confess everything once she realized the potential falling apart of their plan. If Ravi hadn't convinced her last minute, she would've went ahead and fessed everything up, which shows that she still was the same Pip, but just that she had so kuch more to lose now, making her confused and sidetracked.


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Fa I think this was somewhat justified. Jason had been killing girls and had almost no problem evading the law for many years at that point meanwhile Pip was being sued for trying to the right thing. She had felt hopeless and as though the authorities have failed her. Even in the last book, they failed to save Stanley Forbes which as we know took a huge toll on Pip. She was also batting with drug abuse because of this. And we can assume that some part of her subconsciously blames the law for letting him die.

When Jason attacked her, she felt as though the law might fail her again and would let Jason get free and take the lives of other women. She didn’t want to feel helpless again and she felt like if she wanted change, she would have to take matters into her own hands.

So, the point I’m trying to make here is even though murder wasn’t the right choice, we can see where Pip is coming from. It really depends on your own moral beliefs.


Nuzha Rahim I don't think so, killing someone is never the answer


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Victoria Sto It's a complex moral question. I think killing anyone is not the answer. Of course that's like a general opinion of mine but if we're talking about this scene I think she should have waited and gone but I do know that it might have not been effective. So I either way the story would have been interesting. However, I do think it might have been better if she didn't kill him.


Andrea Bell Scarlett wrote: "I think killing him was right and wrong… By killing him she made herself a criminal and has to live with herself. In the second book she keeps imagining blook on her hands? What about now? I mean s..."
yeah i guess thats true. if you look at her situation i feel like in her head the rational thing to do was kill him. i disagree though. i mean pips life was about to go, so why should she take someone elses


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Cece M. Nat wrote: "I think killing him was right and wrong… By killing him she made herself a criminal and has to live with herself. In the second book she keeps imagining blook on her hands? What about now? I mean s..." changed him??? hes a serial killer and a rapist i dont see how pip could have ever changed him.


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Kayla Parker I mean in the first book she charges so many people for perverting the course of justics and now blames it on Max this is crazy and I hate it.


Monica Layla wrote: "Isabella wrote: "I know its a very unpopular opinion but I think she should has waited and told detective hawkins."
Maybe, but I don't think that would have been effective?"


True, If she tells to Hawkins, it's nothing different from agggtm, ggbb. Even I didn't expect that story would take turn in this way. Maybe author wants to finish the story in a different way.


Lilly i can see how it was right and wrong. pip was just kidnapped and covered in duct tape, she was angry and upset and didn't want what happened to her and the 5 women before happen to anyone else. but i do think she could've ran through the woods to find help and put the right man in jail where he belongs. she is incredibly smart though, i loved that she framed max because if anyone deserves time it's him.


Kinzom A. wrote: "I don't know if it was right or wrong, but what I do know is that it made me completely shocked. Hell of a plot twist in my opinion. I loved how as you read more, you could feel Pip become more and..."
That is so true, but I kinda feel bad for pip girl has been through a lot-


Asaby Only finished it recently and i haven't decided if i support Pip's choice to kill him or not, however when she was running away and heard the car i was immediately worried. Jason Bell was very aware of how smart she was, solving the murder of his own daughter. We can argue that she could've gone to the police and try and convince them, but could she do it before he interfered? Also she didn't know where she was or where she was going and could've easily gotten lost in the woods. After years of owning and committing crimes at the building we can assume Jason knew the area pretty well. I find it very likely that as soon as he realized she was missing he would've gone looking for her, and if he found her again i don't think Pip would've gotten a very happy ending.


ariana I honestly think she did because she couldn't have told anyone that would've believed her other than Ravi who couldn't do anything. Plus if she let him go then he would just try to find her again. Theres just nothing she could've done other than that. Plus she took down MOTHER FUCKING MAX HASTINGS!!!


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T I don’t exactly remember everything, but I don’t think Pip did the right thing by killing Jason. I mean if she told the police, she wouldn’t have had to spend a few years isolating herself from her family and friends just in case she got caught. Plus she’s probably messed up now.


Annie Gibson This question is somthing. But yes in the end I think Pip was right to kill Jason. The entire series is about how the justice system is there and is sometimes helpful, but overall it kinda sucks. Do I think that killing is the right thing? No. Never. But in this case, if Pip hadn't done anything she would have had to deal with so much crap from Hawkins and really the whole town. They would have called her crazy and Jason might have killed other people. Heck, he might have even attempted to kill her again. Also, the entire thing was one of the biggest plot twists I have ever read. Go Holly.


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Haseeb Kandhro She done right by killing Jason


Byron Kolln Pip's DNA was everywhere in the trunk of Jason's car. It would have been a simple case to prove, even to a skeptic like Hawkins. But buzzing in the back of Pip's head was a way to get Max Hastings dealt with, and subconsciously or not, I think killing Jason was the best means to an end.


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Lauren None of it made sense. So many details were overlooked, and honestly, the evidence against Jason for abducting and almost killing Pip is pretty obvious. Her DNA as in his trunk, he had her headphones (trophy), the email Andie wrote, there's so much. Not to mention that Pip could've twisted her murder of Jason into self defense very easily. She didn't have to cover it up. I would go into detail about all of the things that didn't make sense, but I'll spare the essay. This book just ruined the triology for me honestly, and I really didn't like the plot twist, or the plot at all.


message 35: by Mimi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mimi I know no one would have believed her but it still felt wrong for her to kill him . And them FRAME max for it. That was so out of character for her. It made my little Pippa Fitz Amobi look so dark. She could have done something to defend herself in court! Pip could have said it was an accident. I feel the book would have been much better without this part.


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Hannah I think that pip thought it was the only way for her to escape the death threats and Jason, in general.


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mary I think Pip made the right decision. Yes, she had successfully escaped and could have gone to Hawkins about everything. But at the same time, if she had gone to Hawkins after escaping, I don't think Jason would have idly waited to be caught. Not only that, but she may not have even made it in time to Hawkins since Jason could have gone looking for her right after realizing she escaped.

Pip's idea of framing Max with the murder was incredibly smart. He was a terrible person who deserved to be behind bars. Justice was not at all served in Max's case, so who knows if it would have been truly served in Jason's case (had she just knocked him out as self defense). Charlie had told Pip, which had stayed with her, that sometimes justice must be found outside the law." I think Pip took the matter of justice into her own hands since she had been let down time after time by the law.


Mozly📚🦄🧜 She had basically already escaped and gotten out of being tied up with the duck tape and everything but she went a bit too far with killing him cause then she needed to cover it up and everything which took forever but was still cool. But basically in my opinion she did the right thing she just went a bit too far with killing him


Maryam Laroussi I mean she could have runed away without him seing her but now I actually realise that she is gonna be afected by it the rest of her life and she will never emocially recover from this one .


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