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What are we reading? 23/10/2023
CCCubbon wrote: "Remembering the recent posts about lunch with someone suffering memory loss, this was my effort this week over on PotW. I find it quite heartbreaking when old friends no longer remember one.Bett..."
A good, age-appropriate poem. My grandmother and father both suffered from dementia as did a few slightly more removed family members. Last week, Mam (clear as a bell at 101) phoned her sister-in-law (my aunt), but she either didn't hear us well enough - even though I shouted who we were - or her mind has gone. Life can be tough at extreme old age.
Gpfr wrote: "This is not something I've had to face (yet?)"Haha! How would you know? ;-)
Seriously, though - I assume you are talking about older friends or family. If you have no direct experience - you are lucky.
giveusaclue wrote: "https://www.fantasticfiction.com/h/li...Specially for Scarlet, this is a crime series set in a real city in Wales!
I have just read the first book, A DCI with PTSD, an overpromoted arrogan..."
Thanks for that... maybe counterintuitively, I am less likely to read books set close to home, simply because any errors in setting or culture are likely to annoy me and put me off. I'm far less likely to spot such mistakes in unfamiliar locations!
I've added the first title to my virtual TBR list, though. Best idea for me will be to see if I can find a copy in the local Waterstones (for a quick read), or failing that, to download a sample.
scarletnoir wrote: "giveusaclue wrote: "https://www.fantasticfiction.com/h/li...Specially for Scarlet, this is a crime series set in a real city in Wales!
I have just read the first book, A DCI with PTSD, an ..."
I was just about to say "you can't suit some people" then read your second paragraph. 😀
Re dementia, my mum had some form for about 6 years, she gradually did less and less until she did nothing. She lost her short term memory but also seemed to lose a lot of her long term memory to. She had been an avid reader, but that stopped when her memory started to fail. It was very hard to cope with when working full time and no other family support. Social services were some help until she went into first residential then a nursing home.
My saying is that I want to wake up dead one day, but not yet!
giveusaclue wrote: "scarletnoir wrote: "giveusaclue wrote: "https://www.fantasticfiction.com/h/li...Specially for Scarlet, this is a crime series set in a real city in Wales!
I have just read the first book, ..."
at the day centre i volunteer at the path of dementia is so sad to see, some are genial and show pleasure, others get stressed and wander, while some seem to shrink into a shell. i have such sympathy for any family with parents or siblings ill with dementia, it is a brutal disease
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Haha! How would you know? ;-) ..."
Ah, yes, that was indeed open to mis-interpretation! 😉.
And not quite true, my daughter-in-law's father is in the early stages of Alzheimer's.
Russell wrote: "Bill wrote: "..."Bob Dylan as Richard Wagner"..."Even for a Dylan fan, that is impossible to swallow."
As I can report from personal experience, there's a phase of being a Wagnerian during which almost everything one encounters seems to relate in some way to Der Meister. In 2016, Ross was heavily involved in writing his book on Wagnerism and no doubt the news about a musician who also wrote the words which he set in his compositions brought the connection to mind.
I did agree with Ross' basic point: the idea that words meant for a specific musical setting are a different sort of expression than words intended to stand on their own.
scarletnoir wrote: "Gpfr wrote: "CCCubbon wrote: "Stay Buried by Kate Webb ... Did someone here recommend it."It was me.
I hadn't seen there was a second one."
I have taken advantage of an offer at 99p for this one..."
Me. too. 0,99 Euro.
Thanks to Gpfr for the recommendation.
Gpfr wrote: "scarletnoir wrote: "Gpfr wrote: "Dementia is not something I've had to face (yet?)"Haha! How would you know? ;-) ..."
Ah, yes, that was indeed open to mis-interpretation! 😉.
And not quite true..."
It is true, in the silly sense I gave it that when you have dementia, you don't know it... apologies if that joke misfired... No offence meant. I try to face these difficulties with a joke when they arise, as they have in my family.
Bill wrote: "Russell wrote: "Bill wrote: "..."Bob Dylan as Richard Wagner"..."
Even for a Dylan fan, that is impossible to swallow."
As I can report from personal experience, there's a phase of being a Wagner..."
I think you’re being rather kind to Mr Ross. The furthest he seems prepared to go is this, discussing The Groom’s Still Waiting at the Altar:
“You have a feeling, at such moments, that popular tradition has been possessed by an alien, ironic intelligence. It’s unsettling to realize that the head-bopping music and the mind-bending words are products of the same disjunctive imagination. The song becomes a vortex. It thus becomes just a little Wagnerian.”
Even for a Dylan fan, that is impossible to swallow."
As I can report from personal experience, there's a phase of being a Wagner..."
I think you’re being rather kind to Mr Ross. The furthest he seems prepared to go is this, discussing The Groom’s Still Waiting at the Altar:
“You have a feeling, at such moments, that popular tradition has been possessed by an alien, ironic intelligence. It’s unsettling to realize that the head-bopping music and the mind-bending words are products of the same disjunctive imagination. The song becomes a vortex. It thus becomes just a little Wagnerian.”
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No, indeed, I thought it a well-aimed joke :) No offence taken!
English Journey is a wonderful compliment to the stories of Walter De La Mare, i feel centered in a damp, fallen leaf zone of an english autumn with two great voices from the past guiding me.Priestley is brilliant with his studies of Northern urban areas in the Great Depression, he finds the organisations doing work for the unemployed in most towns, attends plays and am-dram works, this is an unusual side of a travel book and fascinating.
De La Mare leaves me always thinking, with every short story i finish, thinking and questioning about life. I have read quite a lot of his works before but these short stories seem even better
Russell wrote: "“You have a feeling, at such moments, that popular tradition has been possessed by an alien, ironic intelligence. It’s unsettling to realize that the head-bopping music and the mind-bending words are products of the same disjunctive imagination. The song becomes a vortex. It thus becomes just a little Wagnerian.”"Not knowing the Dylan song, I can’t say how off the mark Ross’ statement is, though I’m willing to believe it very, very far off the mark. It does strike me as the kind of unhinged comparison someone immersed in Wagner might be prone to make. Fortunately for me, none of my own such pronouncements were made in print.
I’m essentially ignorant of Dylan’s music, though I do regularly encounter his enthusiasts in print. The various reactions make me wonder whether the music isn’t a kind of Rorschach test, allowing his fans to project their own concerns and interests unto it. Thus not only did Ross, working on his Wagner book, find something Wagnerian in it, but a classics professor finds the songs loaded with Classical allusions, and an American historian finds a running commentary on American history. And dare I suggest that a committee tasked with awarding a prestigious prize in world literature similarly found high literary achievement in the songs?
Bill wrote: "... The various reactions make me wonder whether the music isn’t a kind of Rorschach test, allowing his fans to project their own concerns and interests unto it. Thus not only did Ross, working on his Wagner book, find something Wagnerian in it, but a classics professor finds the songs loaded with Classical allusions, and an American historian finds a running commentary on American history. And dare I suggest that a committee tasked with awarding a prestigious prize in world literature similarly found high literary achievement in the songs?"
That is an amusing critique, and probably close to the truth. As one who has defended the Nobel before now, I recognize the justice of it.
There is, btw, an Official Audio of that Dylan song available on youtube. I’m guessing you would last about 15 seconds before having to hit Stop.
That is an amusing critique, and probably close to the truth. As one who has defended the Nobel before now, I recognize the justice of it.
There is, btw, an Official Audio of that Dylan song available on youtube. I’m guessing you would last about 15 seconds before having to hit Stop.
Something seems a bit off to me with the 2024 Saul Bellow US Postage Stamp, calling to mind a definition I often cite: "A portrait is a picture in which something is wrong with the eyes."
Russell wrote: "There is, btw, an Official Audio of that Dylan song available on youtube. I’m guessing you would last about 15 seconds before having to hit Stop."Thanks, I did listen to the whole 4 minutes plus of the song while following along on the lyrics, albeit at a volume that Dylan fans would probably consider blasphemously low.
Out of curiosity, I then also listened to the live version of the song Alex Ross linked to. It's over a minute longer with more guitar solos inserted - I assume that's Mike Bloomfield (a name I don't recall encountering before).
To tell the truth, except for Dylan's enigmatic lyrics ("the mind-bending words" Ross terms them), I don't know what might distinguish the music from a lot of other fast tempo rock/blues or whether the guitar solos on the two versions are meant to specifically apply to this particular song. I suppose this is due to my general unfamiliarity with the genre, much as any two Mozart concertos would be indistinguishable to a novice listener.
Needless to say, I didn't get the slightest Wagnerian vibe from either version.
I'm a fan of polylingual rhymes, but January / Buenos Aires seems a bit rough.
I’m continuing to enjoy Céline/Voyage au bout de la Nuit. He’s just arrived back in France after experiencing life in early 1920s America. I’ve been trying to work out what makes the writing so peculiarly attractive. First, there are the words themselves, a rich and expressive vocabulary, with the yeasty addition of coarseness and slang. Second, the syntax is amusingly fluid, very unclassical, the punctuation left to look after itself, and yet perfectly clear. Third, the tone has a pervasive black humour, which in the opening war section was all sarcasm and mockery and has now transmuted into something different – whatever the word is for having shocking thoughts and saying them out loud. None of this explains why he is the way he is. An inner sadness is becoming apparent. Part of it is that he left the woman he loves in Detroit, because his destiny and his misfortune is always to journey onward. I’m so interested to see how it all resolves, if it resolves at all.
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The latest in my series of Penelope Lively books and as usual most enjoyable.
As the title suggests, the story of a family, told from the point of view of different members and going backwards and forwards in time, never confusing.
Russell wrote: "I’m continuing to enjoy Céline/Voyage au bout de la Nuit. He’s just arrived back in France after experiencing life in early 1920s America. I’ve been trying to work out what makes the writing so pec..."i do wonder with these strong stylistic foreign novels how much we should credit the translator for the style they are translated in, how much different might they be in their original language?
Unless you are reading it in french ofc Russ?
Greenfairy wrote: "A heartbreaking encounter that has stayed with me was seeing an elderly lady weeping whilst looking at some photos that she had taken out of her handbag; she said "These must be pictures of my fami..."There was a documentary, "Complaints of a Dutiful Daughter," made a few years ago. The filmmaker's mother had Alzheimer's disease. She eventually removed family photos from her mother's room; they referred to a past she couldn't remember, and troubled rather than pleased her. (The mother couldn't recall having a daughter, but regarded the younger woman as a friend. They settled on treating each other as sorority sisters.)
AB76 wrote: "Russell wrote: "I’m continuing to enjoy Céline/Voyage au bout de la Nuit..."
i do wonder with these strong stylistic foreign novels how much we should credit the translator for the style they are translated in, how much different might they be in their original language?
Unless you are reading it in french ofc Russ?
I’m reading it in French. Normally I don’t need a dictionary at all. Céline’s vocabulary is so varied I do find I have to look up some words. I feel privileged that there’s at least one foreign language where I can enjoy an author’s words and style as originally conceived.
Just recently I wrote a poem in French, something I hadn’t thought I was capable of. It was for my wife (a big birthday) and she doesn’t speak French, so obviously I had to provide a translation! It was difficult. You find that many words/phrases in English have one extra syllable, or one fewer, or the emphasis in an equivalent word falls in a different place, so the rhythm is all off. The result was OK but even translating my own words into my own language the French version was better. Good translators have an amazing skill.
Why on earth write it in French in the first place? I read a French love poem with lovely “ou” and “o” sounds, and I liked them so much I wanted to see if I could do something similar.
i do wonder with these strong stylistic foreign novels how much we should credit the translator for the style they are translated in, how much different might they be in their original language?
Unless you are reading it in french ofc Russ?
I’m reading it in French. Normally I don’t need a dictionary at all. Céline’s vocabulary is so varied I do find I have to look up some words. I feel privileged that there’s at least one foreign language where I can enjoy an author’s words and style as originally conceived.
Just recently I wrote a poem in French, something I hadn’t thought I was capable of. It was for my wife (a big birthday) and she doesn’t speak French, so obviously I had to provide a translation! It was difficult. You find that many words/phrases in English have one extra syllable, or one fewer, or the emphasis in an equivalent word falls in a different place, so the rhythm is all off. The result was OK but even translating my own words into my own language the French version was better. Good translators have an amazing skill.
Why on earth write it in French in the first place? I read a French love poem with lovely “ou” and “o” sounds, and I liked them so much I wanted to see if I could do something similar.
Time to revisit Henry and Anne Boleyn? Quite a review in the NYT this week. (I'm on the list at the library.) (gift link) https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/19/bo...
Russell wrote: "AB76 wrote: "Russell wrote: "I’m continuing to enjoy Céline/Voyage au bout de la Nuit..."i do wonder with these strong stylistic foreign novels how much we should credit the translator for the st..."
am jealous Russ, as you are experiencing the Celine style in its natural form, so there is no interpretation via translator
my french is pretty good but couldnt handle a literary classic, too much would get bogged down in dictionary enquiries.
After listening to the Dylan selection and reflecting on my very limited knowledge of the genre, I started pondering a question that came to mind. I wonder if those better acquainted with folk / rock would care to take a shot at addressing it.Why is Bob Dylan greater than Paul Simon?
Bill wrote: "After listening to the Dylan selection and reflecting on my very limited knowledge of the genre, I started pondering a question that came to mind. I wonder if those better acquainted with folk / ro..."Was it just yesterday that 'Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes' ran through my head? It surely was not because I had visited the podiatrist mid-week. I wish I could think of the recurring hard spots on the soles of my feet as diamonds. Maybe then I could make a little money off them. (She said with a 😉😏😇 (pick one).)
Bill wrote: "After listening to the Dylan selection and reflecting on my very limited knowledge of the genre, I started pondering a question that came to mind. I wonder if those better acquainted with folk / ro..."i would say the sheer body of work is my reason, Dylan has been at work for almost 61 years, prolific, always producing work and delivering the highest quality lyrics and melodies. Simon is also an absolute great of music, the work with Garfunkel over a decade is magical and his experimental work later on too but he has never produced as much work as Dylan
i actually prefer Paul Simon, as "I Am A Rock" and "Homeward Bound" are just amazing tunes but i can see the towering genius of Bobby D on every horizon
Bill wrote: "After listening to the Dylan selection and reflecting on my very limited knowledge of the genre, I started pondering a question that came to mind. I wonder if those better acquainted with folk / ro..."I don't think that they have to be 'greater than'. They are different, and suit peoples of different inclinations. I valued Paul Simon for 'old friends, and bookends' but much of his output passed me by, but I did like his album 'Graceland' which has, as MK has mentioned, 'diamonds on the souls of my shoes' on it. He was brave enough to explore the hinterlands of S African apartheid in the process of producing that album. One of my favourite gigs of all time, was 'Ladysmith Black Mambazo' who collaborated with him over Graceland, at Islington town Hall, in London, in the 80's, sometime.
On the other side I don't at all relate to him as an individual. Perhaps I was put off by watching Nicolas Roeg's 'Bad Timing' which starred Art Garfunkel, in a very bleak and disturbing film, and didn't manage to disassociate him from Paul Simon for some reason. I am not much of a watcher, or historian, of the history of rock classics. But that said, there are more tracks by Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell and Leonard Cohen, that I do personally relate to, than there are by Paul Simon. But that is just me... If that helps...
@MK, I'm a little over halfway through What the Dead Know and am enjoying it. The structure and the way the author releases bits of information over the course of the novel is interesting.Looking back through my reading history, I see that it's the first novel I've read in little over a year. The last one was Mr Beethoven, which I thought was pretty bad.
AB76 wrote: "Bill wrote: "After listening to the Dylan selection and reflecting on my very limited knowledge of the genre, I started pondering a question that came to mind. I wonder if those better acquainted w..."Bridge over Troubled Waters is one of the first LPs (remember those?) I bought. I think the first might have been a Buddy Holly!
giveusaclue wrote: "Bridge over Troubled Waters is one of the first LPs (remember those?) I bought. I think the first might have been a Buddy Holly!"While I remember my mother liking a number of Big Band songs, I don’t think either of my parents ever thought of listening to music as an activity to be given one’s full attention. When I first started listening to music in the late 60s, I started with popular music and top 40 radio as the music that was readily available, and I had a period of maybe a year or so when that was my main listening. I started at about the time “Mrs Robinson” won a Grammy award, which caught my attention and got me listening to Simon & Garfunkle, who may have been the only vocal group whose albums I bought.
I listened to all the pop hits on the radio (covers of songs from the musical Hair were big at the time), but my album purchases were mostly limited to instrumental music, like the Ventures or Mason Williams (“Classical Gas”).
I never heard any music by Bob Dylan, though I remember his albums being advertised on the inner sleeves of Simon & Garfunkle albums. I learned fairly recently that, during the period I was listening to pop music, Dylan was hors de combat due to a motorcycle accident.
I remember just hating Frank Sinatra’s version of “Mrs Robinson” and I’ve never managed to like Sinatra as a musician, another universally admired popular singer who leaves me cold.
At any rate, I, too, purchased “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, which I believe was the duo’s last album. “I have squandered my existence for a pocketful of mumbles”.
Hello everyone. I got overtaken by events last week and didn't manage to get back here. Thanks for all the Shakespeare replies. I have yet to go through them all, but will post again when I've done so.
@AB76 & @TamThanks for the responses.
I deliberately used the term “greater” as a mild provocation, but it definitely characterizes the impression I have about the status of Dylan in popular music and modern culture more broadly. Not just the Nobel, though that certainly put a cap on it, but also all the books written about him and the kind of veneration with which he’s mentioned in a number of contexts, often outside of the context of popular music, though Alex Ross is the only classical music writer I know of who’s written about Dylan.
Though, as I said, my exposure to popular music is very limited, I’ve encountered the work of three singer / songwriters over the years: Paul Simon, Tom Waits, and Leonard Cohen. I thought their music much more attractive than anything I’ve heard by Dylan. I chose Simon for the comparison because, from as much as I know about the three, his career seemed closest to Dylan’s.
Bill wrote: "giveusaclue wrote: "Bridge over Troubled Waters is one of the first LPs (remember those?) I bought. I think the first might have been a Buddy Holly!"While I remember my mother liking a number of ..."
I went to the funeral of next door neighbour's dad about 20 years ago. The tune they played as we left the chapel - "In the Mood" by Glen Miller!
After the fascinating English Journey by JB Priestley, which re-introduced me to the Depression Era England that Orwell captured so well in a similar period by next non-fiction read will be about Hong KongJan Morris wrote Hong Kong, the End of an Empire
in 1988, i found it via a BW books search and deliberatley chose the original and not the updated 1990 version, so i could read about the territory preserved in a kind of decaying imperial aspic. I am looking foward to reading it as my knowledge of HK history isnt great (my brother lived there for 6 years though).I remember 1997 and the handover in teeming summer rain, a friend of mine at school was dating one of the Patten daughters in 1992-093 and i will be interested to read Pattens diaries of his time as Governor of HK.
Sadly now its a hellhole of repressive laws and Chinese placemen, the promises that the Chinese gave have almost all been reneged on and the future looks bleak for a progressive Hong Kong.
Wonderful rain cascades down in the desert of the Shires, its more intense, less prolonged, which is a shame, i love a long rainy day but in the Shires, these are getting rarer and rarerAfter kicking covid into the long grass, i'm buzzing again and glad to see the back of such a horrible disease, sadly many infected in my circle have had nastier reactions and it reminds me that covid can dish out mild colds to some and paralysing, health damage to others.
Right now Out of the Deep (Stories) by Walter De La Mare is transfixing with its depth and the questions each story asks. Its been on the pile for over a year which baffles me as i know of his quality and his wonderful style, he isnt a new author at all. I almost feel each story needs 3 reads, which i am resisting as so much is packed in. These are not just ghost stories, they unsettle and raise questions of existence, nostalgia and being. I heartily recommend this 300 page volume, published by The British Library.
Another book rich in thinking, musing and melancholy is Vasily Grossmans 1962 travel book An Armenian Sketchbook. I say travel book, when really is the best kind of travel book in that its 50% A-B and 50% the thoughts of the author on bigger themes. Grossman was ill when he wrote the book and there is a sense of lurking death and pain, alongside his thoughts on the Armenian people and the landscape he is visiting.
AB76 wrote: "Wonderful rain cascades down in the desert of the Shires, its more intense, less prolonged, which is a shame, i love a long rainy day but in the Shires, these are getting rarer and rarerAfter kic..."
You wouldn't dare have said that last weekend in S. Derbyshire. Flooding in unusual places, including the centre of Derby, many roads impassable.
Glad you have recovered now AB.
giveusaclue wrote: "AB76 wrote: "Wonderful rain cascades down in the desert of the Shires, its more intense, less prolonged, which is a shame, i love a long rainy day but in the Shires, these are getting rarer and rar..."thanks
usually the G lets comments run free on their "live" updates, all matter of stuff that gets removed from any books discussion is allowed usually but since the Gaza War, no comments have been allowed below that live feeddissapointing and a sign of the mess that "comment is free" has become
In regard to Dylan, here's an article by David Remnick I read last year that gave me some sense of the nature of his art and didn't have me rolling my eyes by making extravagant claims for it.I don't know what the New Yorker's paywall policy is and whether non-subscribers can view a certain number of free articles. Apparently I can't, alas, make a gift link for it.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/20...
In order to stave off creative exhaustion and intimations of mortality, Dylan has, over and over again, returned to what fed him in the first place—the vast tradition of American song. Anytime he has been in trouble, he could rely on that bottomless source. When he was in Woodstock, recuperating and hiding from the world, he got together with the Band, in the basement of a house known as Big Pink, and played folk songs: folk songs they remembered, and folk songs they made up. That was “The Basement Tapes.” When he was struggling again, twenty-five years later, he recorded two albums of folk and blues standards—“Good as I Been to You” and “World Gone Wrong”—and four years after that he emerged, reënergized and backed by extraordinary musicians, to issue a string of highly original albums, “Time Out of Mind,” “Modern Times,” and “Together Through Life.” Many of the songs were about mortality, just as they were on the album he recorded when he was twenty and singing “See That My Grave Is Kept Clean.” But now they were felt on a deeper level. Shortly before “Time Out of Mind” was released, in 1997, Dylan heard a pounding on Heaven’s door—a heart ailment, pericarditis, which forced him to cancel a European tour and consider, once more, the end. “I really thought I’d be seeing Elvis soon,” he said.
Dylan kept moving, even having fun. In 2009, he put out “Christmas in the Heart.” If you were stuck thinking of Dylan as a pure ironist, you were wrong; he sang Gene Autry’s “Here Comes Santa Claus”––and made it his own––because he loved it. The record was all in the line of tradition: the Christmas albums of Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole, Bing Crosby, and Elvis Presley. The same goes for what are known as his Sinatra albums—“Shadows in the Night,” “Fallen Angels,” and “Triplicate”—which featured Dylan paying tribute to the so-called American songbook. This shouldn’t have been a surprise, either. Dylan loves Frank Sinatra, and the feeling was mutual. In 1995, at Sinatra’s request, Dylan played his sunless yet defiant song “Restless Farewell” for the old man at a tribute concert.
Sinatra was also Jim Morrison's favourite singer although I don't think they moved in quite the same circles..
Anyway I'm reading Deadly Election by Lindsey Davis.Flavia Alba has taken over the role of informer from her father Falco.A corpse turns up in a large chest which was delivered to the family auction house. Flavia decides to investigate and in the process re- encounters Manilus Faustus (just good friends) who once saved her life.
Faustus is busy though, acting as an election agent for his friend who is standing for the post as plebian aedile. Taking advice from a book allegedly written by Cicero's brother which states that candidates should lie , make promises that they have no intention of keeping and dish dirt on opponents at every opportunity. Manilus takes the opportunity to hire Flavia to find out all she can about the said opponents. Whilst doing an impromptu vox populi in the forum she gets into conversation with two women, and remarks that one of the candidates "seems a bit of a lush"
to which one woman replies "He's a bit of fun, Rome could do with some fresh air"
I might be wrong but is that a cheeky modern reference to a certain former PM? :)
Looks like I've found my holiday present from me-to-me. Nothing like a coffee table book of National Park posters to set my heart aflutter and open the old check book. Here's a link to the story - https://www.seattletimes.com/life/out...Plus, I must visit the Washington State History Museum soon to see their CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS (better known as CCC) exhibit before it closes.
This fella's been in our backyard two days in a row. Today he saw off a younger rival (sheer intimidation, no head-butting needed) and then chased a doe who he eventually shtupped in the bushes at the side of the house.
Bill wrote: "This fella's been in our backyard two days in a row. Today he saw off a younger rival (sheer intimidation, no head-butting needed) and then chased a doe who he eventually shtupped in the bushes at..."
what a fine figure he is, an alpha deer, those antlers, fantastic!
Is he a roe deer? Not sure what types you get in PA
AB76 wrote: "Is he a roe deer? Not sure what types you get in PA"I believe the deer in this area are whitetails (Odocoileus virginianus, Virginia deer).
Greenfairy wrote: "Sinatra was also Jim Morrison's favourite singer although I don't think they moved in quite the same circles.." I remember reading a quote from Morrison somewhere claiming that he wrote "You're Lost, Little Girl" with Mia Farrow in mind and wanted Sinatra to record it (Farrow and the much older Sinatra were a couple at the time). My impression was that he was at least half joking but who knows.
AB76 wrote: "Right now Out of the Deep (Stories) by Walter De La Mare is transfixing with its depth and the questions each story asks. Its been on the pile for over a year which baffles me as i know of his quality and his wonderful style, he isnt a new author at all. I almost feel each story needs 3 reads, which i am resisting as so much is packed in. These are not just ghost stories, they unsettle and raise questions of existence, nostalgia and being. I heartily recommend this 300 page volume, published by The British Library."Is this a complete collection of his supernatural stories or a selection?
Bill wrote: "AB76 wrote: "Is he a roe deer? Not sure what types you get in PA"I believe the deer in this area are whitetails (Odocoileus virginianus, Virginia deer)."
thanks bill
Berkley wrote: "AB76 wrote: "Right now Out of the Deep (Stories) by Walter De La Mare is transfixing with its depth and the questions each story asks. Its been on the pile for over a year which baffles me as i kno..."as far as i can see, looking at the list of his short stories online, its a selection but reaches from the beginning of his career to the 1930s. I wouldnt call them "short" stories either, all are of a good length, which recently i havent found with many other short story collections
i am majorly impressed with them all so far, am about half way through. If you havent read his novel The Return i recommend that too. Only one story in the collection isnt new to me and that is the unsettling Crewe
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It was me.
I hadn't seen there was a second one."
I have taken advantage of an offer at 99p for this one... reviews vary from extremely enthusiastic to 'boring'. Not a major outlay if I don't like it. Will let you know!