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sabagrey | 389 comments Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Learn something new all the time in this group!"

Exactly so! - The mention of Dutch vs. Belgian in the Regency era made me look up the history of Belgium, or, to be precise, what came before Belgium - which dates only from 1830.


Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
sabagrey wrote: "Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Learn something new all the time in this group!"

Exactly so! - The mention of Dutch vs. Belgian in the Regency era made me look up the history of Belgium, or, to be ..."


Yes, and the first King of the Belgians was Leopold, who married Princess Charlotte and was the father of the baby she died giving birth to.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ &, as is very well known, GH only ever kept one fan letter (I'm afraid she despised most of us.)

I have bruised the toes on one foot, so I can't easily get to where I have shelved my GH reference books, but here is a blog post that mentions this.

https://femalescriblerian.com/2015/01...


Teresa | 2196 comments Thanks for the link Carol. Interesting!!


Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
Jason is fun, isn't he? A rare example of a working-class GH character with a personality of his own, beyond 'faithful retainer' or 'supercilious butler / dresser'.

But he seems to have perfected his pickpocketing skills while in Sherry's employ: he first gets caught by Sherry because he's an 'inexpert thief', but he's certainly improved by the time he 'forks' Mr Tarleton!


Jackie | 1745 comments I loved Jason and found it especially funny when he was interacting with Sherry - asking him if he was eloping and Sherry said "of course I'm not..." before realizing he was!


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Jackie wrote: "I loved Jason and found it especially funny when he was interacting with Sherry - asking him if he was eloping and Sherry said "of course I'm not..." before realizing he was!"

Yes, to some extent Jason is the voice of common sense to Sherry!


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Margaret | 613 comments Jenny wrote: "Yes, to some extent Jason is the voice of common sense to Sherry!"

Which is rather alarming when you think about it!


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Kit (kitsebastianrenard) Jenny wrote: "Jackie wrote: "I loved Jason and found it especially funny when he was interacting with Sherry - asking him if he was eloping and Sherry said "of course I'm not..." before realizing he was!"

Yes, ..."


I'd also argue that Gil fulfills that role, too!


Teresa | 2196 comments Gil is a wonderful character. Has great common sense which he takes great pains to hide. A real friend!


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Teresa wrote: "Gil is a wonderful character. Has great common sense which he takes great pains to hide. A real friend!"

Although already sensible, Gil appears to grow up as well. :)


Teresa | 2196 comments The friends were all so protective of Hero I think it made them think of something other than themselves. It was very touching the way they looked out for her.


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Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Teresa wrote: "The friends were all so protective of Hero I think it made them think of something other than themselves. It was very touching the way they looked out for her."

Whereas Gil & Ferdy anyway, at the start, are hoping George will get over The Incomparable. (Sherry is, of course, a rival.)


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Margaret | 613 comments Teresa wrote: "The friends were all so protective of Hero I think it made them think of something other than themselves. It was very touching the way they looked out for her."

George in particular is so sweet about it! The way he interacts with Hero gives the reader a more nuanced view of his character than the "fire-eater" his male friends see. And in a way I think that's true for all of them. Sherry too, eventually!


Teresa | 2196 comments Although George got on my nerves a bit with his tantrums and histrionics. He was so moody all the time. I wanted to 'plant him a facer' :)


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Kit (kitsebastianrenard) Gil, Ferdy, and George are honestly my favourite part of the book.


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Jackie | 1745 comments Teresa wrote: "Although George got on my nerves a bit with his tantrums and histrionics. He was so moody all the time. I wanted to 'plant him a facer' :)"

yes, that is why he kind of deserves Isabella the "spoiled beauty". and she, him.


Teresa | 2196 comments Good point Jackie!!


sabagrey | 389 comments Jackie wrote: "yes, that is why he kind of deserves Isabella the "spoiled beauty". and she, him..."

their relationship is something I prefer not to imagine in any detail ;-)


Teresa | 2196 comments Lol!!!


Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
Teresa wrote: "The friends were all so protective of Hero I think it made them think of something other than themselves. It was very touching the way they looked out for her."

They're like good brothers, aren't they? Which Hero has never had - being an only child in her first family and only having unpleasant 'sisters' in her second.


Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ I was going to start a new thread, but I thought this might make life too complicated. I just want to do a comparison between Sherry & Ludovic (secondary hero from The Talisman Ring) I'm going to use spoiler tags & ask everyone who wants to join in to do so as well!

(view spoiler)

Thoughts?


Jenny H (jenny_norwich) | 1210 comments Mod
Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "I was going to start a new thread, but I thought this might make life too complicated. I just want to do a comparison between Sherry & Ludovic (secondary hero from The Talisman Ring) I..."

I think the difference between them is that Sherry is more of a real person than Ludovic.
What GH has done with Friday's Child is to take a rather two-dimensional character that she uses a lot, the frippery, impulsive, idle, immature, rich young man with a sense of fun but no sense of responsibility, (not only Ludovic, but Pelham from The Convenient Marriage, Dysart from April Lady, Cedric from The Corinthian, Rupert from These Old Shades ... ) and by making him the male lead, endow him with an extra dimension and the possibility of growth.
"What will it take," she must have asked herself, "for this young man to grow up? What if he suddenly found himself responsible for the well-being of someone even younger than himself, ignorant of the world and wholly dependent on him?"
Eustacie won't (view spoiler). We see in Devil's Cub what becomes of the young man in middle age if nothing happens to make him grow up, and I think (view spoiler).


Sheila (in LA) (sheila_in_la) | 401 comments Jenny wrote: "Teresa wrote: "The friends were all so protective of Hero I think it made them think of something other than themselves. It was very touching the way they looked out for her."

They're like good br..."


Yes, and they look out for Sherry, as well, who also doesn't have strong family ties. See near the beginning of chapter 17: "It presently occurred to Mr. Ringwood, however, that the Viscount was not in quite such volatile spirits as of yore; and at a convenient moment, as he sat in his friend's library, sampling some burgundy which Sherry had just acquired, he asked simply: 'Anything amiss, dear old boy?'"


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Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ Sheila (in LA) wrote: "Yes, and they look out for Sherry, as well, who also doesn't have strong family ties."

Ferdy is his cousin though. :)

But yes, Sherry isn't well served by the generation who should be mentoring & caring about him


Sheila (in LA) (sheila_in_la) | 401 comments Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂ wrote: "Sheila (in LA) wrote: "Yes, and they look out for Sherry, as well, who also doesn't have strong family ties."

Ferdy is his cousin though. :)

But yes, Sherry isn't well served by the generation wh..."


Oh yes, you're right about Ferdy!


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