[Resolved] Are merges stuck for you too?

[David]

Question to fellow librarians. Since yesterday, all my merged are stuck and never reach the "edition: Deleted" phase. Is this just for me or is it a general problem?

[Lieke]

I haven't tried today, but I didn't have any problems yesterday.

[annob [on hiatus]]

Same as Lieke, haven't tried today. Fwiw the longest queue time I've experienced is 3 days, so I know it can be looooong but still working.

[Lieke]

I did one after reading this and after 1.5 hours it is still stuck, so I think it is a general problem

[David]

I've had long waits, but they were on high count merges. These are mostly very low count editions. However, I now realize the first merge that was stuck was with 123,560 adds. Perhaps the queue delays my other deletes.

ETA: Reading Lieke's message, I may have broken the server.

[Ma]

combine editions don't seem to be working either

[Lieke]

It (combine) was working earlier today, but for me it also doesn't seem to be working now.

ETA: it is working again (for me)

[Liralen]

I haven't tried merging, but combine has been on and off down for me today.

[☕ Lachgas ♿]

currently it's not working for me - with (obviously) low number merges. (waiting more than 2hrs for a 1 shelving merge)
but combine also doesn't (again)

[Tami]

Merges are stuck for me too.

[David]

One of my merges managed to succeed, but all the rest are still stuck. Support were useless as ususal.

[Lieke]

Lieke wrote: "I did one after reading this and after 1.5 hours it is still stuck, so I think it is a general problem"

It went through 2 hours ago, so it took around 16 hours...

[☕ Lachgas ♿]

the ones I left open from yesterday (after I read your posting) are still not gone through.
Luckily it were none where a recombine was needed.

[Tami]

I checked some of mine and they are still stuck since May 3rd.

[David]

Still very much stuck here. Merges are taking days, if they are finished at all.

[Dobby]

Same

[David]

I've stopped answering requests on the supers folder. My watch list already includes two dozen editions and it makes no sense to add more.
Halp!

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

Is it possible something isn't showing properly/the same in the changelog?

I queued one over an hour ago and have been watching closely because of this thread. But then I looked at the statistics for the book that is supposed to receive the adds/reviews and they reflect the numbers of the deleted edition.

[David]

My deletes from two days ago just went through. It works but it is very very slow.

[Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager]

Hi everyone. I'm checking in with the team and will add updates here.

[David]

My deletes are working again.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

And 6 hours after my post above, the changelog reflects the deleted edition wording.

[Dobby]

Mine's still waiting, 15 hours and counting... 💤

[David]

My deletes are also stuck again. It was working briefly and now fails again.

[☕ Lachgas ♿]

my one is stuck for 8 hours now again.
A bit annoying because this time it does need a recombine.

[David]

I do them now in series. The last series of deletes took 17 hours, except for one book that is now waiting three days, and I resubmitted it.

[Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager]

Thanks for the updated reports. We're still investigating why this is happening. I'll let you know any updates as I have them.

[David]

Delay is now over 30 hours

[Scott]

Mine did not seem to be going through yesterday.

[David]

Most of my deletes from May 11 have just finished, putting the delay at close to three days (64 hours to be exact). However, some are still stuck. In other words, this is getting worse.

[Renske]

I saw some of my merges have gone through after about 4 days.

[David]

Renske wrote: "I saw some of my merges have gone through after about 4 days."
I guess I should be encouraged (?) that at least it works. I'm still waiting for my May 11 merges.

[David]

Merges from the 11th (five days ago) still pending.

[annob [on hiatus]]

Thanks for posting, my oldest in the queue are from May 12th. Good to know I need to have a bit more patience.

[David]

Dear Diary,

It's been six days since I last witnessed a functioning delete, and my faith is dwindling. Are deletes now extinct? I can't help but wonder how our world would appear without this vital function.

[☕ Lachgas ♿]

All deletes? No, there was a little record that made it through :-D
Let's call it Deletix. (are the english Asterix names also build with ix? :D)
(it took more than a day but it did delete yesterday or so, but mine have probably way fewer ratings than yours)

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

David wrote: "Dear Diary,

It's been six days since I last witnessed a functioning delete, and my faith is dwindling. Are deletes now extinct? I can't help but wonder how our world would appear without this vita..."

I think the activity of the bot is slowing things down across the site.

[Melanie]

I've definitely noticed this as well with the 11th seeming to be where they got stuck. Some have finally gone through after several days (see below) but I think I have others that still haven't.

14 deletions on the 11th went through on the 14th
1 deletion on the 11th went through on the 15th
2 deletions on the 11th went through on the 16th

[David]

Melanie wrote: "I've definitely noticed this as well with the 11th seeming to be where they got stuck. Some have finally gone through after several days (see below) but I think I have others that still haven't."

Not sure if this has to do with luck or maybe with the number of records, but none of the deletes I made since the 11th have went through, and I did a couple every day.

[Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager]

Bumping the long wait times with deletions to the team's attention. So sorry for the ongoing trouble with this!

[David]

Here is ChatGPS's interpretation, I found that interesting (and alarming)


Dear Diary,

In the realm of my thoughts, I find myself contemplating the absence of a functional delete for seven consecutive days. The notion of delete's potential extinction lingers in my mind, leaving me uncertain and questioning. What would our world resemble in the absence of this fundamental function?

Yours introspectively,

[Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager]

Wow! Thank goodness we won't have to live in that post-apocalyptic hell. We've made a couple of changes and deletes should start to process as usual. Thanks for your patience while we investigated.

[Liralen]

David wrote: "Here is ChatGPS's interpretation, I found that interesting (and alarming)


Dear Diary,

In the realm of my thoughts, I find myself contemplating the absence of a functional delete for seven consec..."

I asked ChatGPT to respond to itself (spoiler tag for length):

(view spoiler)[The absence of a functional delete function, both in the digital realm and beyond, would indeed have significant consequences for our world. Deleting serves as a fundamental tool for managing information, correcting errors, and maintaining a certain level of privacy. Without it, several aspects of our lives would be notably affected:

1. Digital Information Overload: The inability to delete digital data would lead to an exponential increase in information overload. Every piece of data, regardless of its relevance or accuracy, would persist indefinitely. Searching for relevant information would become increasingly challenging, and distinguishing between valuable and irrelevant content would become nearly impossible.

2. Privacy Concerns: Deleting personal information is crucial for safeguarding privacy. Without the delete function, any piece of information shared online, whether accidental or intentional, would remain permanently accessible. This absence would greatly compromise personal privacy and increase the risk of identity theft, blackmail, and other forms of misuse.

3. Accuracy and Accountability: Deleting erroneous or outdated information is essential for maintaining accuracy and accountability. If errors cannot be corrected or removed, false information could perpetuate, leading to widespread confusion and misinformation. It would be difficult to hold individuals or organizations accountable for their mistakes, as the evidence would persist indefinitely.

4. Emotional Well-being: Deleting allows for the removal of regrettable or distressing content, providing individuals with a sense of control over their online presence. Without this function, past mistakes, embarrassing moments, or hurtful interactions would remain visible, potentially causing long-term emotional distress and hindering personal growth.

5. System Performance: The absence of the delete function would result in an accumulation of unnecessary data, leading to increased storage requirements, slower systems, and higher energy consumption. The digital infrastructure supporting our society would face significant challenges in managing and processing the vast amount of unfiltered and unnecessary information.

6. Creative Expression and Innovation: The ability to delete and refine ideas fosters creativity and innovation. In the absence of deleting, people might be more hesitant to share their thoughts, ideas, or creative works for fear of their permanence. This could stifle creativity and limit the exchange of diverse perspectives.

In summary, the deletion function plays a vital role in our digital world and beyond. Its absence would result in information overload, compromised privacy, reduced accuracy and accountability, potential emotional distress, strained system performance, and hindered creativity and innovation. (hide spoiler)]

[David]

Jaclyn wrote: "We've made a couple of changes and deletes should start to process as usual. Thanks for your patience while we investigated."

I'm sorry to say but the improvement is very minor. One of my deletes from the 11th have managed to pass through but nothing else did. I even resubmitted some of the deletes in hope that they will "process as usual", but so far nothing changed.

[Carol She's So Novel꧁꧂]

Liralen & David.

hahahahahaha (because if we don't laugh we'll cry)

[Peroikos]

Is there a way to see what edits/actions of mine are still queued?

[Jaclyn, Librarian Program Manager]

Sorry, it seems I spoke too soon! We've identified the issue and a solution, but are still making the required changes.

[Dobby]

My merge from May 15 is still stuck.

[David]

Peroikos wrote: "Is there a way to see what edits/actions of mine are still queued?"
There is no way I am aware of, but the only actions where queueing is relevant is deletions, as these need to be completed before recombining. I simply keep a list of links to the librarian edits page of all deletes I make.

[David]

Jaclyn wrote: "Sorry, it seems I spoke too soon! We've identified the issue and a solution, but are still making the required changes."

Yes, I was wondering, since only one of my deletes from the 11th onward actually went through. I guess we will need to keep waiting.