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Feb 12, 2023 11:25AM
Some of the books in the BRRAM series are listed on GoodReads, but they have not been tied together as a series. You can see they have been organized as a series on LibraryThing: https://www.librarything.com/nseries/... They are also listed as a series on the main publisher page for this series: https://anaphoraliterary.com/attribut... Can one of you guys add all of these books into your catalog (for those that are not already in it) and group them together by creating a new series in your system called "British Renaissance Re-Attribution and Modernization". I cannot do it myself, as your system specifies that only a Librarian in this group is authorized to create a new series. Thanks in advance for your help. Let me know if you have any questions or need additional information by emailing me at director@anaphoraliterary.com
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According to Goodreads guidelines, these do not qualify as a series. To be a series, books should have characters and/or universes in common.
This is illogical. Norton's "Shakespeare" series is classified on Goodreads as a series: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...Another series is one that generally includes Renaissance texts: "Renaissance English Text Society" series: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...
And there is "Routledge Studies in Renaissance and Early Modern Worlds of Knowledge" https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...
My British Renaissance Re-Attribution and Modernization (BRRAM) series is just as connected as any of these other groups of books that are categorized as a series. The "universe" BRRAM's volumes have in common is that they they re-attribute the entire British Renaissance to only six ghostwriters, and this perspective has not been proposed before by any other study or series, and thus they are very much unique and cohesive in communicating a new message from their shared "universe". I would be delighted to offer further proof, if you can clarify your position. Grouping them together in a series is just a bibliographically necessary step, as they are called Volumes 1-20, and they are best understood when they are seen in relation to each other.
I have taken a look at the other books you have mentioned and they are not part of a series on the GR platform. GR has its own guidelines regarding series, independent of Amazon listings and other platforms. From the Librarian Manual:
"To be a series, books should have characters and/or universes in common."
Listopia is a great way to bring together a collection of books that are not a series.
I attempted to follow your advice to create a collection for it on Listopia: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1... . I encountered several problems: 1. None of my own votes for the 14 previously published volumes in BRRAM - https://anaphoraliterary.com/attribut... - appear in connection with this list, as if I never voted for them, or my votes are being ignored. Thus, there is now a description of the series, but no actual collection books associated with it here.
2. The 6 most recently published final volumes of BRRAM are not yet in the Goodreads catalog. I added them into your catalog earlier today. But even 10+ minutes after I added them, they do not show up in Listopia, so I could not vote for them to be added.
PS: As I said BRRAM does have "characters" (the 6 ghostwriters) and a universe (the ghostwriting Workshop that monopolized British publishing) in common, so I still think it should be simply cataloged as a series on GoodReads, even if the other similar series are not. If GoodReads never catalogs such series as series, I think you guys should look into changing this policy. And you really should work out the glitches above with Listopia to make it usable.
Anna wrote: "I attempted to follow your advice to create a collection for it on Listopia: https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1... . I encountered s..."Your link for your listopia doesn't work. Could you post again.
I'm not very familiar with Listopias but almost everything is very heavily cached on Goodreads. Look again in 24 hours.
I'm not very good on nonfiction series but this doesn't look like a series to me.
If you want changes to how series are considered please contact Support or post in Help.
Librarians are volunteers - we have little to no influence on Goodreads policies.
https://www.goodreads.com/about/conta...
Dear Carol: Thanks for noticing the broken link. It looks like Listopia has deleted the series page I created, after rejecting the individual votes I made to add the volumes to this series. So this is another problem that needs to be fixed on GoodReads. I posted the complaint in this thread because this was where I was advised to use Listopia. So I wanted to warn others who might attempt to take advantage of this option that there are problems with it, which include the impossibility of actually creating any series or string of connected books on this platform. You are welcome to forward this note to GoodReads support. Since this string is for administrators who are the only folks who can approve the creation of a series on GoodReads, I am assuming you are the volunteers who would want to be informed of such glitches.
This thread is not for administrators. Actually there is a thread by the former librarian moderator about things about site functionality https://www.goodreads.com/comment/sho...
Librarians are volunteers, that means we are random people from everywhere doing this as a hobby and are in no way connected to GR as employee or company.
Just random people spending their free time.
We have no other contact possibilities than you. Actually even "less", the contact form asks if you are a GR author but not if you are one of their voluntarily working librarians - we are seen as random users by the support staff answering our forms.
And yes as far as I know (not using Listopias) authors can not vote on their own books anymore because too many authors abused that and spammed their books on every list they could find. So that is not a bug but intended.
Same for series creation (although I don't even remember if authors were ever allowed to do that, would be longer ago than the Listopia change)
And a series that does violate GR rules (and GR does not care if it's anywhere called a series, Librarything wouldn't even be a source librarians could use because copyright/legal things) should just not be created and would be deleted if a librarian comes across.
I'm not a non-fiction reader nor familiar with the non-fiction series creation so I unfortunately don't have anything to say on that regarding your books.
you should be able to add the missing records yourself to GR though.(as far as I know GR authors should be still able to do that)
If you don't want to - there is an "adding new books/editions" section in the forum - please read the sticky there about the best format. And there is currently a huge backlog.
