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I tried, got the msg "ISBN can not be modified". I suspect cases like this - when no duplicate merge target exists - have to be sent in to staff from now on.
ugh okay, how annoying. If I've thought of it I wouldn't have added the correct info to that edition (cover, blurb and isbn) so it could be a merge. won't happen again.But thanks for trying, will sent it to support.
annob wrote: "I tried, got the msg "ISBN can not be modified". I suspect cases like this - when no duplicate merge target exists - have to be sent in to staff from now on."We can create a new edition and merge the incorrect one. It is extra work but I believe that is what is expected.
If no ISBN or ASIN is present for a book record, Librarians and the Author of the book can add the ISBN or ASIN to the record. If an invalid ISBN or ASIN has been entered, the book edition with the incorrect ISBN or ASIN can be merged into one with the correct ISBN or ASIN — by a Superlibrarian when necessary.
This is a new policy. I guess I missed the announcement.EDIT: And I'm glad this came up nearly immediately after the change went live. I have reviewed the announcement post.
Yeah but new edition is not possible as I already added the correct ISBN13 to the reocrd so it's already in the database because indeed I hadn't kept in mind supers can't change ISBN either. (really thought you could)And adding an ISBN-less record, separate and merge, waiting until it's through and then adding the ISBN to the new record and then combining again that just seems to be the most complicated way possible (and makes a confusing log).
So I handed it over to support to just remove the ISBN.
☕ Lachgas ♿ wrote: "Yeah but new edition is not possible as I already added the correct ISBN13 to the reocrd so it's already in the database because indeed I hadn't kept in mind supers can't change ISBN either. (reall..."Supers can now add a duplicate ISBN. See #3 in this post:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
I understood that should only be used for real duplicate isbn (as it does also add librarian notes) and not sure if it doesn't copy both ISBN then which would not help when they still can't remove the truncated one?
☕ Lachgas ♿ wrote: "I understood that should only be used for real duplicate isbn (as it does also add librarian notes) and not sure if it doesn't copy both ISBN then which would not help when they still can't remove ..."Obviously, I don't know how it works. But it looks as if a new edition can be created with the correct ISBNs, and then the edition with the truncated ISBN can be merged. If that isn't the case, then, yes, staff will have to do it.
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rivka wrote: "As the new tool would move both the valid ISBN13 and the invalid ISBN10, how would it help the situation?"Perhaps I misread. It looked to me as if the Super could create a new edition with a duplicate ISBN. In the case of the edition starting this thread, the ISBN13 is correct. Couldn't the Super add the correct ISBN10 in the new edition? Then couldn't the edition with the truncated ISBN10 be merged?
EDIT: Reading it again (obviously not a Super, aren't you glad?) this doesn't work how I thought it did.
It is my understanding from the announcement that any librarian can create a new edition and then merge the one with the incorrect ISBN into it, or a superlibrarian can merge it if there are many shelvings.
Emily wrote: "It is my understanding from the announcement that any librarian can create a new edition and then merge the one with the incorrect ISBN into it, or a superlibrarian can merge it if there are many s..."Yeah, I was misunderstanding the duplicate ISBN part. I thought it would allow Supers to create a new edition and enter an ISBN that already existed. But that's not what it does. It's more like adding an alternate cover edition and that it also duplicates the ISBN rather than moving it.
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Correct.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "and that it also duplicates the ISBN rather than moving it."
No, it moves the ISBN(s). Just to a new, separate work, rather than an edition of the existing work.
rivka wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "and that it also duplicates the ISBN rather than moving it."No, it moves the ISBN(s). Just to a new, separate work, rather than an edition of the existing work."
My misunderstanding has (at least) led to an understanding of how this works. Not sure I understand the thinking behind the change, but that probably isn't necessary anyway.
Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Not sure I understand the thinking behind the change, but that probably isn't necessary anyway."Ha! ;)
Thank you