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Want to talk about the 2024 election? Possible candidates? Platforms? Predictions?
New Jersey and Illinois are both about to send politicians prison.New Jersey Sen. Bob Menendez resigns from Senate after bribery convictions
https://apnews.com/article/bob-menend...
Scandal-plagued Dolton mayor announces she will run for second term
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local...
If Trump wins in November, who does Biden pardon in January 2025?
J. wrote: "First up, Hunter."What he said and probably his brother.
I'll give you the eating pets accusation, Ian, although there were reports that this happened, but no proof. You seem to think Trump lies constantly. If he does, you should be able to cite numerous examples. Can you do that?
The best I can do is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_o...According to the Washington Post it was 21 per day. Given the Washington Post is probably Dem oriented, they have probably over stretched. The Toronto Post has it significantly smaller, but still a very large number.
Even this abstract https://academic.oup.com/book/36813/c.... is interesting. Oxford University will not be embedded in US politics.
Scout wrote: "I'll give you the eating pets accusation, Ian, although there were reports that this happened, but no proof. You seem to think Trump lies constantly. If he does, you should be able to cite numerous..."Why don't you just google it. I did and the listings got on for over 10 pages. Then again I doubt anyone can keep up.. he's been lying since the '60's. Trump would not know the truth is it walked up and BIT him. He's a grifter.. and that's an insult to grifting.
Don't assign homework..
Wow! Arguing whether a NY real estate developer or a lifelong politician is a bigger liar. Seriously, in less than two weeks we'll be choosing between a giant orange braggart and history's worst affirmative action hire; also between a hillbilly weened on Mountain Dew and an albino Elmer Fudd.
"But the Evil Orange Man lied!"
They all lie constantly.
The question we are avoiding is, "Which candidate would be a competent and conscientious steward of our lives, liberties, and properties?"
RFK-Jr pointing out the recent DOD directive enabling military action against the US people.Biden/Harris did this, not Trump.
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/...
Graeme wrote: "RFK-Jr pointing out the recent DOD directive enabling military action against the US people.Biden/Harris did this, not Trump.
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/..."
I wonder for what they're preparing.
J. wrote: "Graeme wrote: "RFK-Jr pointing out the recent DOD directive enabling military action against the US people.Biden/Harris did this, not Trump.
https://x.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/......"
Good luck with that one.
Papaphilly wrote: "Good luck with that one...."I always imagined the US would present the most horrific insurgency for an occupying force.
Graeme wrote: "Papaphilly wrote: "Good luck with that one...."I always imagined the US would present the most horrific insurgency for an occupying force."
Unlikely to be tested. It is almost inconceivable anyone could occupy it. It is too big and too far away
"Occupying" is for primitive nations like russians. Stirring things within to cause deformation might be of greater danger.
The Harris plagiarism reporting came from a few sources, mostly Christopher Rufo, who is a very thorough journalist.Working with investigative "plagiarism hunter", Stefan Weber, he found passages in Harris' work taken from, an NBC news report, a John Jay College press release, Wikipedia. and a couple other sources, all of them published before Harris' book, and without any attribution.These are not all that high profile in terms of publication but sheesh - Smart on Crime and she's not smart enough to do her own writing? Not smart enough to know you attribute what you quote, something you are supposed to learn in high school.
Trump has apparently promised a 20% tariff on all exports from NZ to the US. Harris' position is unclear.
Graeme wrote: "J. wrote: "Donald Trump on JRE:https://youtu.be/hBMoPUAeLnY?si=aQ6K0..."
Watching this now."
Just in the last ten hours, it has over nine and a quarter million views on YouTube. I wonder how many of those are CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, and WaPo staffers looking for lines to cherry pick.
Graeme wrote: "17 million views now."Now at 29 million views and 413K+ comments.
In other news, CNN openly canvasses Trump winning the popular vote....
REF: https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/...
Graeme wrote: "J. wrote: "Donald Trump on JRE:https://youtu.be/hBMoPUAeLnY?si=aQ6K0..."
Watching this now."
I feel like the one redeeming quality I have to give Trump is his ability to talk.
The gift of gab is indeed a powerful political ability. Beyond that, can you name any moral position claimed by his opponents, of which the left have not debased themselves?The Dems claim Trump will pursue political prosecutions, while the Dems indict Trump and his allies.
The Dems claim that Trump will censor your speech, while Democrats write op-eds on reining in Musk's X.
The Dems claim Trump will take away women's autonomy over their bodies, after the Biden administration tried to enforce vaccine mandates.
The Dems claim Trump is a Nazi, while standing with people chanting, "...from the river to the sea...".
Kiri, I was speaking to Ian, not you. In reply to J.'s post about Kamala's interview with Bret Baier, I agreed that she doesn't give straight answers to questions. In reply, Ian tried to blame this on Trump by bringing up cat eaters (which I agreed I couldn't find evidence for) and Kamala having to "deal with his lies" (plural). It's not "homework" to ask someone to explain a statement. And I'd ask what any of that had to do with Kamala's inability to give straight answers to direct questions, as she failed to do in that interview.
Sai, I'd amend that to say "his ability to talk about how he will solve problems." He explains his plans about immigration, the economy, foreign policy, supporting the police and the military, improving education.
Barbara, I saw that, too. Not smart. J. previously posted a link to Chris Williamson's interview with Eric Weinstein, who said, "Kamala's a lot smarter than you're giving her credit for." Here's a 3-minute clip from that interview if you want to see Weinstein's argument and decide if it's cogent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDX5q...
Scout wrote: "Kiri, I was speaking to Ian, not you. In reply to J.'s post about Kamala's interview with Bret Baier, I agreed that she doesn't give straight answers to questions. In reply, Ian tried to blame this...""what any of that had to do with Kamala's inability to give straight answers to direct questions". What it has to do with it, as I thought I tried to explain, is if she makes a statement, it opens up the debate for more Trump lies and she ends up looking defensive, which is not. Presidential. If Trump is not prepared to keep to facts, Kamala has the right not to give him an opening.
Graeme wrote: "Graeme wrote: "17 million views now."Now at 29 million views and 413K+ comments.
In other news, CNN openly canvasses Trump winning the popular vote....
REF: https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status..."
And the New Republic caught poisoning the well.
Trump Cancels All His Events in Favor of One of the Worst People Ever
https://newrepublic.com/post/187405/d...
Now the JR interview is censored on Google/Youtube.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/j...
Of course, if you already have the link in your history, you'll find it easy.
Graeme wrote: "Now the JR interview is censored on Google/Youtube.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/j...
Of course, if you ..."
Probably just a glitch, like that laptop.
Graeme wrote: "Now the JR interview is censored on Google/Youtube.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/j...
Of course, if you ..."
thats weird. they shouldn't be able to do that
Sai (the climate catastrophe is real) wrote: "thats weird. they shouldn't be able to do that"They've been doing that for years now.
I'm still listening on Spotify. You can probably find it there. Amazing that censorship is okay in America.
Scout wrote: "I'm still listening on Spotify. You can probably find it there. Amazing that censorship is okay in America."Now I know you are joshing.
BTW, anyone else notice papers are backing away from endorsements? The tide may finally be starting to turn.
who do you guys think will win the election?
Ian, you defended Kamala's inability to give straight answers to questions by saying, "if she makes a statement, it opens up the debate for more Trump lies and she ends up looking defensive, which is not. Presidential. If Trump is not prepared to keep to facts, Kamala has the right not to give him an opening." That's a lame excuse. She's not tough enough to state her policies clearly and to defend them, regardless of what Trump says. She's playing defense - not a good look for a presidential candidate.
Papaphilly wrote: "Scout wrote: "I'm still listening on Spotify. You can probably find it there. Amazing that censorship is okay in America."Now I know you are joshing.
BTW, anyone else notice papers are backing ..."
I noticed certain papers are avoiding endorsements. I also noticed their staffs losing their s*** plus MSNBC and CNN are doubling down on the TDS.
I wonder if that behavior is connected to the arsons committed upon ballot drop boxes.
I think we have a lot more bad road to travel before we begin to see smooth pavement.
Papa, I actually am still surprised that censorship has become okay. It's against everything this country was founded on. I understand that there's a movement to undermine the fundamental principles that created this country, but I still find those principles to be sound.
Sai (the climate catastrophe is real) wrote: "who do you guys think will win the election?"I don't know. I'm concerned that we have been so divided by the MSM that someone will do something bloody.
J. wrote: "Sai (the climate catastrophe is real) wrote: "who do you guys think will win the election?"I don't know. I'm concerned that we have been so divided by the MSM that someone will do something bloody."
seems realistic, considering that there have already been two assassination attempts on Trump. I know we're definitely not having a Jan 6 repeat if Harris wins instead of Trump. I think the violence will stick to things like those ballots burning.
Scout wrote: "Ian, you defended Kamala's inability to give straight answers to questions by saying, "if she makes a statement, it opens up the debate for more Trump lies and she ends up looking defensive, which ..."She hardly plays defense. She was a prosecutor---she is very passionate when talking about Trump's wrongdoings. If you remember the debate Trump was actually put on the defensive for a small stretch.
Have you watched her interviews on 60 Minutes or the interview with Bret Baier? Take the time to watch if you want to base your opinions on fact. I'll post them here. She avoids giving direct answers to all questions. It would be funny if she weren't running for president.This is from 60 Minutes, 20 minutes long, which was later edited to make her comments make more sense (not my idea of credible journalism)
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/_Xyww...
And here's the Bret Baier interview, 26 minutes
https://www.foxnews.com/video/6363352...
Graeme wrote: "Now the JR interview is censored on Google/Youtube.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/j...
Of course, if you ..."
Fair question: How much longer until the governments of Australia, Canada, and the UK decide that kind of "hate speech" cannot be legally consumed in their jurisdictions?
My understanding is that the UK is already there, and Australia is trying to put in place a 'misinformation,' law that makes the .gov and official (legacy) media protected entities while everyone else gets censored.Hence the importance of the current US presidential elections which will set the future of Western Civ, not just the future of the US.
Posts from the long twilight struggle:Devices used in ballot box arsons had 'Free Gaza' markings, sources say
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ballot-box-...
Anybody who comes to a polling place to start something violent in my home county will be ventilated beyond recognition before they can get "Aloha Admiral Ackbar", out of their damned fool mouths. For those in less civilized districts, have courage and keep your head on a swivel.
Sai (the climate catastrophe is real) wrote: "who do you guys think will win the election?"I think it breaks Trump's way. I think They take the Senate and maybe even hold the House. I also think the Democrats burn the country. But then, I think half the country burns anyway regardless of who wins.
J. wrote: "I think we have a lot more bad road to travel before we begin to see smooth pavement ..."I unfortunately agree.
J. wrote: "Graeme wrote: "Now the JR interview is censored on Google/Youtube.https://www.zerohedge.com/political/j...
Of ..."
UK has already started. I also think Australia has some version of it too.
I'm reading The Anti-Federalist Papers and the Constitutional Convention Debates. Much of the progressive agenda seems like the utopian elements of the Virginia Plan taken to absurdist extremes. For instance, Ben Franklin argued against paying elected government members for their terms of service because doing so risked creating a class of people who produce nothing but regulation and largesse...Sometimes, the wisdom of our ancestors is disheartening.
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although you mention Chicago, it is actually Illinois that is number one sending politicians to prison. New Jersey is getting ready to send our Senior Senator to prison for corruption.