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J. Gowin | 7975 comments EXCLUSIVE: RNC files lawsuit against Montgomery County PA for illegally issuing untested early ballots
https://thepostmillennial.com/exclusi...


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments NTEU becomes latest federal worker union to endorse Harris
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/202...

First, Dick Cheney, and now, IRS agents...

I suspect her next endorsement will involve black candles, a pentagram, and a virgin sacrifice.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe that I have found Graeme's soul mate and now, I won't sleep well.
https://youtu.be/PYRYXhU4kxM?si=_pGL5...


message 1804: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments Yeah, I can see where you find similarities with Graeme’s prophecies )


message 1805: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan I'm aware of Eric Weinstein and I find a lot of alignment with what he says.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Any points of disagreement?


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments J. wrote: "NTEU becomes latest federal worker union to endorse Harris
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/202...

First, Dick Cheney, and now, IR..."



REALLY?

And tell me where you are going to find a virgin in this day an age?.....8^)


message 1808: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Papaphilly, Reddit.


message 1809: by Nik (last edited Sep 24, 2024 01:16AM) (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments J. wrote: "Any points of disagreement?"

While I agree that the US system was based on competition between unimportant to biz issues like abortion (who the hell cares?) and any winning party suited big biz who could easily exercise their influence through lobbies and donations. He refers to mysterious "international agreements", while I claim - it's big biz.
With Trump and Kamala - he claims Trump is uncomfortable while Kamala is, I think it may even be the opposite. Kamala is accused in promoting "communism", while Trump's tax reform benefited big biz the most. Just one example. I suspect - they are both "comfortable". In some senses - Trump is more, in other - Harris.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments J. wrote: "Papaphilly, Reddit."

Reddit has virgins?


message 1811: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Yep. If you comb the Anime and MGTOW subreddits, I guarantee you'll find "men" who have never known a woman's (or anyone else's) touch.


message 1812: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Papaphilly wrote: "And tell me where you are going to find a virgin in this day an age?.....8^) ..."

In their mother's basements...


message 1813: by Papaphilly (new)

Papaphilly | 5042 comments Uh guys, you do realize when they sacrifice virgins, it is not men, but women....8^)


message 1814: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Well, indeed. That has been the tradition...

But we live in revolutionary times! 🤣


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Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Any points of disagreement?"

Aware of, but I haven't read a lot of his material. I'm watching the 3 hr video you linked. It's quite interesting.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Papaphilly, are you asking Kamala to define what a woman is?


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments J. wrote: "Papaphilly, are you asking Kamala to define what a woman is?"

I know better than that.....we know she cannot...


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments If Kamala was going to do anything to help the nation, she would have done it in her first term.
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1838963...


message 1819: by Kiri (last edited Sep 26, 2024 10:38AM) (new)

Kiri | 47 comments J. wrote: "If Kamala was going to do anything to help the nation, she would have done it in her first term.
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1838963..."


She's the VICE president..not President. (yet)
The Vice President doesn't get the final call.

*stares at you*


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments Kiri wrote: "J. wrote: "If Kamala was going to do anything to help the nation, she would have done it in her first term.
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1838963..."

She's the VICE president..not Preside..."


According to John Adams, the VP has no power at all, and all he found when President was the VP did his best to undermine him. Kamala was a loyal VP, not that she will get much thanks from some here.


message 1821: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments According to Biden (in the clip), he delegated policy to her.


message 1822: by Papaphilly (last edited Sep 26, 2024 02:08PM) (new)

Papaphilly | 5042 comments Kiri wrote: "J. wrote: "If Kamala was going to do anything to help the nation, she would have done it in her first term.
https://x.com/StephenM/status/1838963..."

She's the VICE president..not Preside..."


Maybe, but she was named border czar and did absolutely nothing. Her entire political history has been one of dodging hard questions and flip flopping.

*stares right back at you*


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments BTW,

Kamala has said mr ethan once the Democracy is on the line and we lost rights under Trump. Can you tell me what rights were lost and returned under Biden and Harris?

Can you tell me how Democracy is on the line?


message 1824: by Graeme (last edited Sep 26, 2024 06:56PM) (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Kamala Harris and Biden will exercise the same policy set. Both represent the US establishment, 'insider,' club.

Trump, RFK-Jr, Gabbard, Musk, Vance, et al do not belong inside the club, hence why the US Establishment is engaging in a full-court press against Trump and his associates.

If Kamala Harris wins, her presidency will simply continue all the current policies on their current trends.

[1] US Government spending will continue to increase with increased taxes, however, despite increased taxation, debt will rise dramatically.

With .Gov borrowing $Trillions each year and spending the money into the economy creating demand for goods and services without increasing the supply of goods and services, inflation will continue to increase across the board.

The top 1% of society (Enablers/Beneficiaries of the Establishment) are on the new money path and will benefit from this process. The next 9% while somewhat insulated, will start to feel the pinch over the next few years. The bottom 90% will face direct hardship based on increased costs for food, energy and shelter.

Noting there there are many instances of US .Gov funds simply going missing...

[1-POLICY] Loot the treasury and establish perpetual debt-slavery.

[2] The US borders will remain wide open allowing millions of third-world economic migrants to be imported into the US by corporations (for cheap labour) and NGOs (human trafficking (including child sex trafficking), with ideological, foreign national, and/or criminal agendas)

This will enable the [A] continued displacement of working class americans by cheap third-world labour willing to work for poverty wages, and [B] through a process of legalisation, the new migrants will be added to the census and the voting rolls, and will greatly assist the Democrat party to become the sole holder of government offices, rendering the US a one-party state.

[2-POLICY] Import slave-labour (poverty wages are just the price of feeding, clothing, and housing slaves), and establish a one-party state representing the interests of the Establishment insiders.

[3] The US .Gov will continue to push against the constraints of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights, advancing the use of Censorship in violation of the 1st Amendment. Expect the USSC to be expanded and stacked to ensure 100% favourable rulings for the Establishment. The other Amendments will be regulated out of existence and rubber-stamped by a complicit USSC.

[3-POLICY] End the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. End the Republic. Eliminate Human Rights. Establish a one-party authoritarian state.

Foreign Policy is more interesting as the US Establishment is factioned into Pro- and Anti- Global Thermonuclear War groups represented by Blinken (Pro) and Austin (Anti), as recently revealed by the refusal of Biden to endorse the use of British Storm Shadow missiles fired deep into Russia. An action that Blinken and Austin both understand would initiate a direct war between NATO and Russia and put Russian nuclear weapons on the table.

Then, it'd just be a matter of who shoots first, and then the world cascades into a civilization ending thermonuclear war.

Environment Policy is simply a means to implement [1] and [3], expect more government funds to vanish into projects that harm the environment or achieve nothing, along with regulatory prescriptions that rob Americans of access to cheap and abundant energy.

Public Health is simply a means to implement [1] and [3], expect to be jabbed and jabbed again by mandated for-profit products that swell the coffers of the Pharmaceutical-Medical cartel and bank-balances of complicit .Gov officials reaping royalties, stock options, and jobs on the board.

SUMMARY A Kamala Harris presidency will simply take every negative trend in the US and accelerate it to the Establishment's end game of a one-party authoritarian state where the majority of people have been stripped of private property and enslaved with technofascist 'shackles,' at the mercy of their ruler's whims.

Everyone will, "Own nothing, and be happy," as any complaints will be censored and the complainer switched-off from their UBI CBDC so that they can't buy their daily rations of bug gruel.

Think this can't happen? Stacking the USSC has already been proposed, UBI, CDBC, already proposed. US .Gov censorship is a matter of the public record. Flirting with global thermonuclear war is in the news. Inflation is a reality. Massive skyrocketing US debt is a reality. Eating bugs - now happening. Migrants paid poverty wages - now happening. Child sex trafficking - now happening. Foreign criminal gangs on US streets - now happening.

We're already living in a dystopia - and it can get a lot worse.

If you don't want this future, if you want to reverse course, then vote Trump in November.


message 1825: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Just to get the odd fact into play Trump increased the US National Debt by 33%, Biden by 16.7% (https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-...)

You need another Calvin Coolidge!


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments So Biden increased it by a smaller percentage of a larger number...

I looked it up. In 2016, the US debt was $19.5 trillion. In 2020, it was $26.9 trillion. Over the course of Trump's presidency the national debt increased by $7.4 trillion. In 2024, it has reached >$35 trillion and growing. So Uncle Joe has increased the debt by $8.1 trillion. 7.4 < 8.1.

I could probably add that a large part of Trump's debt increase occurred in 2020. Apparently, something caused a massive reduction in revenue due to unemployment, and a huge increase in government expenditures. I wonder what that could have been. 🦠


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Graeme, you seem to be saying that we are about as hard up as Rome in 193 AD (The Year of the Five Emperors). When will this pain end?


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Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Graeme, you seem to be saying that we are about as hard up as Rome in 193 AD (The Year of the Five Emperors). When will this pain end?"

Argentina is a good example of how to turn things around.

Trump 2.0 with RFK-Jr heading up Health, Musk/Vivek on board for .Gov restructure. Tulsi as Defense Sec... etc could easily cut discretionary US .GOV spending in half...

The big issue is the locked in costs of social security...

That said, a massive reduction in regulations/red tape, opening up of hydrocarbon fuels, and suddenly US is a low-cost energy super-power again. That is likely to revive the engine of enterprise and fill coffers across the board.


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Kiri | 47 comments "The big issue is the locked in costs of social security..."

So you are advocating taking the lifetime contributions of the American Worker - who may be planning on this as a means of survival after retirement?

IF Congress had not been raiding Soc Sec for decades it wouldn't be in the financial stress it is currently.


message 1830: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Kiri wrote: ""So you are advocating taking the lifetime contributions of the American Worker - who may be planning on this as a means of survival after retirement?..."

Not at all.

The problem is that SS is locked in. It's only in the discretionary spending that an administration can make a difference.


message 1831: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Kiri,

The US is living on a 'credit card,' and eating its own future.

That approach is unsustainable and always leads to collapse.

Everyone else is the same (Australia, where I live is the same).

We have the same appearance of wealth that a 20 year old would have if someone lent them $10M and they splurged it renting a mansion, cars, staff, and throwing wild parties. In the end, there is just a hangover, a rash, and a $10M bill that they can't pay.

The historical response to such a situation is indentured servitude of the debtor to the creditors.

Aka Bankrupty where the creditors seize all the assets.

You'll discover you have no wealth when all your property rights are taken away from you.


message 1832: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan P.s. Kiri,

No new laws or regulations are required to do this. It's all on the books today.


message 1833: by Kiri (last edited Sep 26, 2024 08:06PM) (new)

Kiri | 47 comments Graeme wrote: "P.s. Kiri,

No new laws or regulations are required to do this. It's all on the books today."


I don't disagree with your summation in the two posts above. Tha said I think there may be other ways out of the disaster.

Also good to know you weren't advocating taking away the hard work of the avgerage worker


message 1834: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Kiri wrote: "Also good to know you weren't advocating taking away the hard work of the avgerage worker..."

Indeed.


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments J. wrote: "So Biden increased it by a smaller percentage of a larger number...

I looked it up. In 2016, the US debt was $19.5 trillion. In 2020, it was $26.9 trillion. Over the course of Trump's presidency t..."


Not according to the numbers in the link - Joe increased it by 4.7 trillion. Counting interest servicing distorts what the President actually did


message 1836: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Graeme wrote: "J. wrote: "Graeme, you seem to be saying that we are about as hard up as Rome in 193 AD (The Year of the Five Emperors). When will this pain end?"

Argentina is a good example of how to turn things..."


The recent large-area hurricane in Florida should indicate what a return to massive burning of hydrocarbon fuels will bring.

The US has one advantage Argentina does not have - the USD is the only reserve currency and a huge amount of wealth is tied up in it, especially in tax avoidance schemes.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "Just to get the odd fact into play Trump increased the US National Debt by 33%, Biden by 16.7% (https://www.investopedia.com/us-debt-...)

You need another Ca..."


Well in all fairness, Trump did run headlong into COVID. Lest we forget.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Kiri wrote: ""The big issue is the locked in costs of social security..."

So you are advocating taking the lifetime contributions of the American Worker - who may be planning on this as a means of survival aft..."


That was Democrat initiative....


message 1839: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Meet the new boss. Literally, the same as the old boss

Harris' team is considering keeping Biden Cabinet officials if she wins and Democrats lose the Senate
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024...


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Ian wrote: "Not according to the numbers in the link - Joe increased it by 4.7 trillion. Counting interest servicing distorts what the President actually did"

Tell that to my bank.


message 1841: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Ian wrote: "The recent large-area hurricane in Florida should indicate what a return to massive burning of hydrocarbon fuels will bring...."

There is no trend in major hurricane frequency.

REF: https://climatlas.com/tropical/global...


message 1842: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Graeme wrote: "Ian wrote: "The recent large-area hurricane in Florida should indicate what a return to massive burning of hydrocarbon fuels will bring...."

There is no trend in major hurricane frequency.

REF: h..."

Tricky to make sense of those graphs. In 2023 there was a record drop in frequency of all hurricanes world-wide and the trend continues in 2024 according to the graph, but my son was recently in China and was lucky to get out by being in between two major typhoons. In their minimum frequency time, we got hit by a major tropical cyclone and they don't usually get this far south. If you think it is OK to ignore the physics that shows there should be a net heat input to the oceans, and ignore the fact that has been measured over several years, (i.e. we are out of equilibrium) then I can't help.


message 1843: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments J. wrote: "Ian wrote: "Not according to the numbers in the link - Joe increased it by 4.7 trillion. Counting interest servicing distorts what the President actually did"

Tell that to my bank."


The bank manager will stop you signing new cheques. Nobody seems to stop Presidents. My point was the the money signed off by the President for new spending.


message 1844: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments While on the topic of spending, how about answering the question, should the US President keep sending money and military equipment to Ukraine? Trump presumably won't, Kamala presumably will. So, all you Republican supporters, what should happen?


message 1845: by Nik (new)

Nik Krasno | 19850 comments After meeting Zelensky this week, Trump says he'd push for a "good deal" for both sides. The question is what he considers to be "good" and what means he'd employ to push. Zelensky on his part said after meeting Trump that he received direct assurances that Trump would be on Ukrainian side.
Some in Ukraine have high hopes connected with him that he'd be more decisive than Biden, if elected.
I guess we shall see


message 1846: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Apparently Zelenskyy also made inn public adverse comments about J D Vance. That was not a good move.


message 1847: by Papaphilly (new)

Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "While on the topic of spending, how about answering the question, should the US President keep sending money and military equipment to Ukraine? Trump presumably won't, Kamala presumably will. So, a..."

With Trump it is rhetoric. He will support Ukraine. It is easy right now for him. He has not said he will cut them off, but has insinuated. If Trump wants to end the war faster, he needs to allow much deeper strike into Russia. Much of Trump is not what he says but what he actually means.


message 1848: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments This is one of those situations where we might see. Butn if Trump does not mean what. he says, how do you know what he means? If you assume you find that by what he did in retrospect he could be no more than a random variable.


message 1849: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments We will be paying the price of the Biden-Harris administration for years to come.
https://youtu.be/m2md8f9-ySA?si=aMS86...-


message 1850: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments People keep wondering why I don't trust my government...
https://youtu.be/P1TUVGq2RAY?si=8vYg_...


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