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J. Gowin | 7975 comments The Clinton and Obama scions' resumes are nowhere near as interesting as the First Crackhead's.


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Our news is claiming that Biden is now 'thinking' about his future.

Surely - surely - this is politician speak for he's about to be pushed?


message 1503: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Perhaps, but what leverage do they have? They are all complicit in hiding his mental decline.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments J. wrote: "Perhaps, but what leverage do they have? They are all complicit in hiding his mental decline."

I just love their reasoning and it only proved what Trump was saying the entire time. The press was in the bag for the Democrats because they did not want the Republicans to win.


message 1506: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments The problem now is while they don't want Trump to win, they don't want Biden either.


message 1507: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Uncle Joe is still on damage control.

Biden told governors he had medical checkup after debate and is in good health: Sources
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden...

Why did those governors travel from their home states to meet Joe?
(view spoiler)


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message 1509: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments The Economist's cover story and associated photo is not kind.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/202...


message 1510: by Graeme (last edited Jul 04, 2024 03:42PM) (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Apparently Harris is the front runner to move to the top of the ticket.

Assuming Harris replaces Biden, who would she pick for VP?


message 1511: by [deleted user] (new)

Saw a brief interview with Trump on our news. He was sat in his golf cart :) and thinks he'll be facing Harris.

Can't imagine anyone with ambition will want to be her number 2, so that discounts Newsom. Probably an unknown to anyone bar connoisseurs of US left-wing politics.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Does Biden think he is Harris?

Biden's bad week just got worse after saying he's proud to be the 'first black woman' to serve in the White House
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-b...


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments In an act of absolute desperation, some demsters have started comparing Uncle Joe to Reagan. Their logic being if Reagan had Alzheimer's, than it shouldn't be a problem for Biden.

For comparison, this was Reagan in his debate against Mondale.
https://youtu.be/5SbsCaRYW6w?si=uS7zk...

And this is Uncle Joe's recent outing.
https://youtu.be/yr9d79TNPfc?si=UbwvZ...

In the debates, which President do you think has suffered more brain damage?


message 1514: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments How could he say he was a black woman? It is one thing to make a mistake in a debate when you have to say something and have had as mental blackout, but surely not knowing who you are after preparation for the speech must be orders of magnitude worse?


message 1515: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments He's stringing together sentence fragments. He could have meant that he served as VP to the first black President and his VP is the first black woman VP. But he just vomited out, "I was..."

It's also possible that in-line with "her" administration's stated policies, Uncle Joe has decided to become Aunt Jackie.


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If Biden identifies as a brunette woman, who herself identifies as being black, Biden IS a brunette woman, who identifies as being black.

That's how the 'progressive' world works, isn't it?


message 1517: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Beau wrote: "If Biden identifies as a brunette woman, who herself identifies as being black, Biden IS a brunette woman, who identifies as being black.

That's how the 'progressive' world works, isn't it?"


Indeed, Beau.

Who are we to question Joe's pronouns!


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Only the 'Lord Almighty' could convince me to quit - Biden
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cl5...

So... An 81 years old self-proclaimed Catholic who thinks abortion is a god given right just tempted God.


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Scout (goodreadscomscout) | 8071 comments Notice in the Stephanopolis interview that he never said he would undergo cognitive testing and reveal the results to the public. When asked whether he would resign if powerful Democrats asked him to, he said he wouldn't answer that question. The funny part was when George asked him to respond to low polling numbers and criticism from his party, and he replied, "That's the press." He's getting a dose of what Trump has faced for years from the mainstream media. Now they've turned on him. What goes around comes around :-)


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Parkinson’s Expert Visited the White House Eight Times in Eight Months
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/08/us...

Just one month ago this article would never have been published in the New York Times.


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments I must confess that when I watched the debate I never thought to watch Biden's hands. Did anyone else?


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "I must confess that when I watched the debate I never thought to watch Biden's hands. Did anyone else?"


I never watched them conclusively, but they did not twitch to that I noticed at all anytime in the last few years and the right wing press would have noted that one.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Biden's having a news conference.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden...


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments The Atlantic going off on Uncle Joe:

C’mon, Man
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...

I love that Trump I s now an existential threat to Democracy. But all of the crap they've done isn't.


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Ian Miller | 1857 comments The problem for the Dems is that with all the fuss over that terrible debate performance, and the reminders by people like George Clooney, anyone who could vote either wasy will now not vote Dem, and those who are favourable to the Dems and don't like Trump won't vote. In my opinion, Joe can't win. The only real question is when will he realize that and do the decent thing for the party?


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Uncle Joe, "...do the decent thing..."?

If you scroll back to the start of the year, you'll find posts about the DNC moving primary dates around to favor Joe. The Democratic Party in Florida decided to just give him their delegates, so registered Dems in the Sunshine State didn't even get a vote.

But that is nothing new for Joe. His previous runs at the White House failed because he is a liar and a plagiarist. When I call him a plagiarist, I don't mean simply using other people's words without attribution. That's what he did to RFK. Joe infamously plagiarized part of a speech by Neil Kinnock in which Mr. Kinnock was speaking about his own family's history. Yeah, Uncle Joe claimed someone else's family history as his own. Yet, people were surprised when he claimed his Uncle was eaten by cannibals.


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Papaphilly | 5042 comments Ian wrote: "The problem for the Dems is that with all the fuss over that terrible debate performance, and the reminders by people like George Clooney, anyone who could vote either wasy will now not vote Dem, a..."

The Democrats are being hoisted by their own petard. they had the chance of running a true primary and they rigged it for Biden. Now they have Biden, they do not want him. He is going to lose and there are no back benchers that can save them. They should have run a true primary. The Democrats scream they have to save democracy from Trump, but it is their doings that look undemocratic to me.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Papaphilly has been hard at work. I never thought I would see this.

Biden support slips in deep blue New York: ‘We’re a battleground state now’
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07...


message 1529: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Papaphilly wrote: "The Democrats are being hoisted by their own petard. they had the chance of running a true primary and they rigged it for Biden. Now they have Biden, they do not want him. He is going to lose and there are no back benchers that can save them. They should have run a true primary. The Democrats scream they have to save democracy from Trump, but it is their doings that look undemocratic to me...."

100% spot on, Papaphilly.


message 1530: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Papaphilly has been hard at work. I never thought I would see this.

Biden support slips in deep blue New York: ‘We’re a battleground state now’
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07......"


Biden has moved into 'toxic for the brand,' mode.


message 1531: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan One of the difficulties faced by the 'Replace Biden,' faction of the Democratic establishment is that everyone currently drunk on playing President of the US behind their puppet, will resist any and every effort to take away their toys.


message 1532: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments I'm watching the show, now.

A lot of pregnant pauses, malaprops, and what I think of as verbal skids. A skid isn't gibberish or slurring. It's more like trying to make a change in direction, and tripping over the words.

They've been working on his spray-on tan. Now, he looks less orange and more Hispanic.

The way he's sweating and seems short of breath makes me wonder if they gave him some uppers.


message 1533: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan This current presentation is a train-wreck.


message 1534: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments And he just said that his delegates could vote their consciences. That was a mistake.


message 1535: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Responding by mentioning his vice-President was Trump was not a high note either.


message 1536: by [deleted user] (new)

At a separate event, he introduced President Zelensky as 'President Putin':

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...

Ukraine best check that next lot of military aid is delivered to them and not Russia.


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J.J. Mainor | 2440 comments J. wrote: "Papaphilly has been hard at work. I never thought I would see this.

Biden support slips in deep blue New York: ‘We’re a battleground state now’
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07......"


But they're just now reporting what everyone else knew about two months ago. A recent poll put Trump within 7 points in deep blue Rhode Island. And the last poll out of New Jersey put Trump ahead by one point! Recent internal polling from the Democrats leaked out and it showed Colorado to be a toss up - a state that's been trending bluer and bluer, and the Democrats see it moving back to purple!

Since the debate, Biden participated in that disastrous interview with Stephanopolous, and the press conference he just had didn't change perception. When he was at his most coherent, he came across as angry. When he was at his worst, he thought Trump was his vice president. And his final words of the night when a reporter pointed out Trump was already commenting on his "gaffs" of the night were "listen to him." It's obvious the debate wasn't a one-off bad performance.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Blinken really did have a bad day, yesterday.

Biden officials struggle to hide their discomfort as prez calls Kamala ‘Vice President Trump’ at ‘big boy’ press conference
https://nypost.com/2024/07/12/us-news...


message 1539: by Barbara (new)

Barbara | 510 comments You know, I would even be willing to write off the Putin/Zelensky and Trump/Harris things as slips, but toward the end of the debate, I think it was the next to last question in the middle of the answer Biden starts yelling about kids dying by gun violence. And that wasn't even the substance of the question - he just goes from Jekyll to Hyde and all of us sort of did a double take.
Also - he had the questioners picked in advance and one in the room said - "Wonder if he had the questions in advance to, so he could be prepped."


message 1540: by [deleted user] (new)

As JJ has commented on one of the threads, 2 political titans have met in Florida:

https://www.hungarianconservative.com...

Got to say, President Trump looks in great shape. Not a day over 50.


message 1541: by [deleted user] (new)

Note President Trump's words...

'A war that should never have started.'

When you're a 6'3, 230lb lean, mean fighting machine, you don't need to sabre rattle like the inadequate wretch Biden. A look here and a word there, and suddenly everybody's listening.

Roll on November. Let's hope the big guy is elected in time to prevent the world stepping into the abyss.


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J. Gowin | 7975 comments Boy, oh boy. Now, we're getting spicy.

Major Democratic donors are reportedly withholding $10s of millions unless Biden drops out
https://www.businessinsider.com/democ...


message 1543: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan J. wrote: "Boy, oh boy. Now, we're getting spicy.

Major Democratic donors are reportedly withholding $10s of millions unless Biden drops out
https://www.businessinsider.com/democ...-..."


I didn't realise that could happen.

So, Kamela may or already has, lost her war chest, and hence her trump card for becoming the presidential candidate.


message 1544: by Ian (new)

Ian Miller | 1857 comments Not necessarily. A number have said they will cancel the withholding if Kamala becomes the candidate. Most of the problems are exclusive to Biden.


message 1545: by Graeme (new)

Graeme Rodaughan Ian wrote: "Not necessarily. A number have said they will cancel the withholding if Kamala becomes the candidate. Most of the problems are exclusive to Biden."

Indeed, Ian.


message 1546: by Papaphilly (new)

Papaphilly | 5042 comments They will donate. What is their choice?


message 1547: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments They can buy politicians further down the ballot.


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J.J. Mainor | 2440 comments Trump was shot at a rally in about an hour ago. Looks like he was just grazed. Unconfirmed reports the shooter is dead, and there may be injuries in the crowd.

https://x.com/resistupdates/status/18...


message 1549: by J. (new)

J. Gowin | 7975 comments Gee. I wonder if this has something to do with the Dems constantly calling him a threat to Democracy?


message 1550: by J.J. (new)

J.J. Mainor | 2440 comments NY post has the video. Looks like the shooter was to his right, shooting across the stage and not at the crowd. There are reports others were hurt, but it probably could have been a lot worse if the shooter was somewhere else.

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news...


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