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Want to talk about the 2024 election? Possible candidates? Platforms? Predictions?
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May 08, 2024 04:31PM
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Beau wrote: "Powerful post, in response to Adrian, J.Apparently Elbow has another nickname - Airbus, because of his penchant for taking private jets everywhere. Probably to conferences on the climate emergency."
They're rigged.
Scout wrote: "Hey, Adrian. You say nothing about Biden, who is our only other choice. If you criticize Trump and think he's the worst choice, please explain how Biden is the better choice. Is he strong? Is he me..."No choice left.
We have a slew of drinking threads 🧵, Kiri, in the lounge section. You are welcome to raise toasts and/or share your drinking moments which would oftentimes invoke a response even from thousands miles away 🥃🍸🍷🍾Disclaimer: I haven’t brokered a sponsorship from Nemiroff or Moet Chandon’s yet , but if the movement gains momentum we’ll offer Bezos a share
Ian said, "It is hardly Australia's fault that the US has such a dynamic choice." You're so aggravating. I was responding to Adrian's statements, which he didn't bother to defend.And who is 112? Do we now have anonymous posters who can say whatever they want without taking personal responsibility? I'm opposed to that.
Nik wrote: "We have a slew of drinking threads 🧵, Kiri, in the lounge section...."Thanks Nik, I was responding to J who has a post further back in this thread. But in future I'll find those threads. =)
Ian, I havent found that article url yet, despite my searching my news aggregator and google. It does exist however. *will keep trying*
Scout wrote: "Hey, Adrian. You say nothing about Biden, who is our only other choice. If you criticize Trump and think he's the worst choice, please explain how Biden is the better choice."While we wait for Adrian.. I decided to google this question and here are the some links amongst the top of the results, about what the Biden team has accomplished. There are some lovely to look at charts and graphs too. =) Admittedly I don't think they show a comparison with Trump in these.. but I'm sure I could try and find out what he did actually manage, it'd be a short list. :D
Not sure it is on any of these, but I will say I was surprised and pleased to hear about the recent development for the people of Wisconsin after the 10 billion Trump (golden shovel)/Foxconn failure.
The Biden-Harris Record | The White House
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
What Has Biden Accomplished? Look at These 10 Metrics, Not the Polls
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/20...
30 Things Joe Biden Did as President You Might Have Missed
https://www.politico.com/news/magazin...
Ahead of the State of the Union …
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/...
Happy Reading!
Ian wrote: "OK Papa, you will take what with a grain of salt? Roast lamb?"No a Margarita....
Polls are terrible for Biden at the moment.REF: Twitter: https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/statu...
REF: NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us...
The thing is that Cohen is a disgraced and disbarred admitted liar.On top of that, Bill Maher has pointed out that Stormy Daniel's testimony is not consistent with an interview which she gave on his show in 2018.
Graeme wrote: "Polls are terrible for Biden at the moment.REF: Twitter: https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/statu...
REF: NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us......"
This will be a horse race and the poles will tighten up.
Ian wrote: "Meanwhile Michael Cohen is hardly helping Trump.https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live..."
Cohen will not hurt Trump in the end. Wait till cross examination. BTW, never follow CNN or MSNBC due to the overly bias anti-Trump reporting.
Papaphilly wrote: "Ian wrote: "Meanwhile Michael Cohen is hardly helping Trump.https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live..."
Cohen will not hurt Trump in the end. Wait till ..."
Ian, over the past two years (due to new ownership) CNN has become Fox lite. I don't know what they are reporting now, but I found their reporting to be irregular and with deep bias. Don't watch them anymore as a result. MSNBC has a bias too. Most American media do.. it needs to change.
Papaphilly is on the ground in New York. He has no axe to grind, no vested interests and appears as the least partisan of all the US group members. His views are more interesting than any well-known, but inherently biased, publications like the NYT or Guardian.
If Papaphilly says Cohen won't hurt Trump, I believe him. Insights like these are what makes WWW a great group, and is why important political figures read these posts.
If Papaphilly says Cohen won't hurt Trump, I believe him. Insights like these are what makes WWW a great group, and is why important political figures read these posts.
A radio interview here with some expert in NY said the Cohen impact was as yet unclear. It depends on what happens when the defence have a go at him. Cohen is in the strange position of potentially being an asset for both sides, Whatever, I doubt it will do Trump any good. On the other hand, Biden seems to be gifting Trump the presidency, BUT it is still some time to November.
Win or lose, they get to associate Trump with such paragons of civic virtue as washed-up porn stars and disbarred lawyers.
J. Turley calls Cohen a liar after the first day of cross-examination.REF: JT: https://jonathanturley.org/2024/05/15...
J. wrote: "Win or lose, they get to associate Trump with such paragons of civic virtue as washed-up porn stars and disbarred lawyers."It looks like that is all the WH/DOJ/DNC/Judge will get.
Mr Buffer, please do the honors.https://youtu.be/xoSJCzLlgk0?si=sqpZY...
That right. The popcorn and moonshine events of our lives have been scheduled.
Biden and Trump, trading barbs, agree to 2 presidential debates, in June and September
https://apnews.com/article/2024-elect...
I'm putting in for PTO on Friday, June the 28th for I shall be hungover beyond any hope of functioning. Maybe I'll wake up in the plot of a raunchy nineties comedy.🤞
Biden debating Trump? Wouldn't miss that. Wonder what drugs they'll inject Biden with so that he will even know where he is. If true, this is gold for Republicans, and Democrats continue to show their bravado based on strong MSM support and lots of dollars from Hollywood stars and Oprah. You have to know that there's a lot more going on here than electing Biden president. He's just a place holder to keep Democrats in control.
Sounds like excellent drinking events are coming. Rubbing my hands in anticipation 🤝😎🥃
Exciting news about the debates. I hope the participants will be drug tested beforehand.
Shame RFK Jr hasn't been invited as he would comfortably beat either of them in any type of debate.
Of the other 2, all Trump needs to do is wind his neck in, avoid any grandstanding, and he will take Biden to the cleaners. Tbh, if he can't manage to do that, he won't deserve a second presidency.
Shame RFK Jr hasn't been invited as he would comfortably beat either of them in any type of debate.
Of the other 2, all Trump needs to do is wind his neck in, avoid any grandstanding, and he will take Biden to the cleaners. Tbh, if he can't manage to do that, he won't deserve a second presidency.
I agree with you, Beau. If Trump can just control himself, Biden will lose. The problem is going to be, in the first debate, that the moderators hate Trump, so won't be asking hard questions on Biden's policies. And drug testing would be nice, but Biden's camp won't let that happen. Should be interesting. I'm stocked up on popcorn and beer :-)
Scout wrote: "Why do you support Biden, Kiri?"Why do you think I do? It might be better to say that I do not (and never have) thought Trump was good for the country.
To be transparent I have never liked him (Trump), long long before he waded into politics.
Kiri wrote: "Scout wrote: "Why do you support Biden, Kiri?"Why do you think I do? It might be better to say that I do not (and never have) thought Trump was good for the country.
To be transparent I have ne..."
I am no Trump fan, but my dislike for Biden goes back to the 1980's. This is a holding election until 2028.
Papaphilly wrote: "Kiri wrote: "Scout wrote: "Why do you support Biden, Kiri?"Why do you think I do? It might be better to say that I do not (and never have) thought Trump was good for the country.
To be transpar..."
I'd love to hear why.
Papaphilly wrote: "Kiri wrote: "Scout wrote: "Why do you support Biden, Kiri?"Why do you think I do? It might be better to say that I do not (and never have) thought Trump was good for the country.
To be transpar..."
Can the US afford to be in a holding pattern given the crises in the world, and two contenders for the Presidency who could lead to almost any unforeseeable outcome?
Ian wrote: "Papaphilly wrote: "Kiri wrote: "Scout wrote: "Why do you support Biden, Kiri?"Why do you think I do? It might be better to say that I do not (and never have) thought Trump was good for the countr..."
This is an unintended consequence. No matter who wins this election, one half of the country is going to lose their minds. It will not be until 2028 that we get new leadership.
Kiri wrote: "Papaphilly wrote: "I'd love to hear why...."For me it goes back to his stances on bussing and school integration. Just not a fan of his policy at the time. The final kicker was his treatment of Justice Thomas during the hearings of 1990. He handled it badly and was less than dignified with a truly eminent jurist. One does not have to like Thomas's rulings or thinking, but he is a dignified man and brilliant. What Biden did was treat him disrespectfully for no other reason than he was the wrong black man nominated. I was appalled at the time and absolutely dumbfounded the Senate would do so and call him a liar. I consider him a truly bad President and history will not be good to his time served.
Typical deflection, Kiri, answering a question -- "Why do you support Biden?" -- with a question -- "Why do you think I do?"Childish response for such a sophisticated group. You can't get away with that here. Answer the question with specific reasons if you want to be taken seriously.
It seems that Beau's preference for the US election is leading to somewhen very spicy.A UK election has been called for July 4. Here’s what to know
https://apnews.com/article/uk-britain...
Is it possible that the latest monarch has pushed our British cousins that far?🤔
The question that puzzles me is why did Sunak stand out in the rain to make the announcement? There must be other ways of doing that.
My guess is the answer is Steve McClaren. Like Rishi, the former England football manager came in for a lot of stick from the tabloid press. It was raining during his final game (a defeat), and he used a brolly. The famous tabloid headline the next day read...
The Wally with the Brolly
Not sure why Rishi didn't hold the press conference indoors though :)
The Wally with the Brolly
Not sure why Rishi didn't hold the press conference indoors though :)
OK, I had to look it up. A brolly is an umbrella, correct?It seems odd that y'all would disparage someone for using an umbrella. In America, we are under the impression that the official uniform of British upper middle class is a suit with an unflattering cut, a bowler, and an umbrella. Rolls Royce and Bentley still have umbrellas that are stored inside their car doors.
https://youtu.be/9KJh0y54O1w?si=jMvIN...
Nobody would disparage someone for using a brolly, J, but the moment I saw Rishi getting rained on I KNEW his PR team remembered the McClaren headline and wanted to avoid a repeat.
Still don't know why he didn't hold it indoors though. It was probably some cryptic message that we have stormy times ahead.
Now, back on topic, come on Donald and Robert! Shut down the Deep State and get that evil, old fuddy duddy out of the White House!
Still don't know why he didn't hold it indoors though. It was probably some cryptic message that we have stormy times ahead.
Now, back on topic, come on Donald and Robert! Shut down the Deep State and get that evil, old fuddy duddy out of the White House!
Btw, only the Italians wear better cut suits than the English (our current PM is not an accurate representation of this).
The Italians and the Germans. They won't admit it, but Hugo Boss has been selling the same cut since the 1930s. Unfortunate who they were selling it to back then, but it is a nice cut.
Graeme wrote: "The man maketh the suit... 😉"That's definitely true of a certain moustache. But I honestly think that without the suit Himmler's weak jawed, spindly limbed, paunch would have regularly experienced whatever the Teutonic version of a wedgie is.
Yeah, he definently looks like the sort of guy who was bullied at school without mercy.
Who would be the best running mate for Trump?
Scout wrote: "Who would be the best running mate for Trump?"The best choice was Noem. Then she torpedoed herself. What's left is a pool of about five candidates who each have a different serious vulnerability.
RFK Jr. recently took a dive into the tin foil hat end of the political pool.https://youtu.be/zKbsDSNlNQk?si=gcFc6...
Scout wrote: "Who would be the best running mate for Trump?"Believe it or not, I think he takes a serious player. om Cotton seems to be floating around and I would not be surprised it is him. He needs more of an adult and center-right.
J. wrote: "RFK Jr. recently took a dive into the tin foil hat end of the political pool.https://youtu.be/zKbsDSNlNQk?si=gcFc6..."
As I said he was a nut job.
Papaphilly wrote: "As I said he was a nut job."Perhaps. Though suspecting CIA involvement in the Epstein Scandal and the Assassination of JFK (along with many others) is not nutty.
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