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[2023] Wild Discussion
Thomas wrote: "A book you’ve seen a film of and one you haven’t"I like the first part of that sentence - A book you've seen a film of. Or a book with a movie or TV series adaptation. (whether you've seen it yet or not) In the weekly topic discussion, people might choose to comment on the movies too.
"One you haven't" could be anything, so I would leave it off.
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A book with a lock on the cover/in the title - and a book with a key on the cover/in the title?
(camera/photograph, coffee/cake etc)"
OMG- this happened to me totally randomly 2x this year and I was thinking it would be a good double prompt
First were these 2
and
and then these
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It was spooky- esp as I'm a kindle reader who doesn't notice covers!
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That's good cause you can listen or not
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I like the first part of that sentence - A book you've seen a film of. Or a book with a movie or TV series adaptation. (whether you..."
I do like the movie/tv prompts but like the "you've seen" part because one of the discussion questions can be "which was better?" which people love to discuss! But some people don't do tv or movies so could be limiting (there is always the option to replace a prompt if you don't like it so every prompt doesn't need to be for everyone)
How about “a book with a person’s name in the title”?
Thomas wrote: "A book you’ve seen a film of and one you haven’t"I like this. Sometimes I read the book before I see the movie, and sometimes I see the movie (or TV show) before I read the book. So I've got a sizable list for both categories. Just word it so that it's limited to books that have been made into movies or TV shows. Like maybe A book made into a movie or show that you've seen, and a book made into a movie or show that you have not seen.
Jill wrote: "How about “a book with a person’s name in the title”?"Apparently there’s a real trend for book titles containing people’s full names at the moment. Something to do with the success of Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine
Pamela wrote: "Didn't last year we say no more cover prompts?"That was just for last year, because our 2022 list had enough cover prompts and we needed to keep it balanced.
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That's my memory of it but for those who are worried there's "too much of", there is a regulatory system
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It's true that cover prompts can have issues too if someone has reduced vision, or reads a lot of audiobooks or ebooks where the covers are small. Still I don't remember any blanket rejection of them.
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As an e-reader and audiobook person, I assume people would just use the lists like I do!
Pamela wrote: "Robin P wrote: It's true that cover prompts can have issues too if someone has reduced vision, or reads a lot of audiobooks or ebooks where the covers are small. Still I don't remember any blanket ..."I'm one of the people who has vision difficulties with covers, but I think we absolutely need some cover prompts - for variety, fun and flexibility. I might speak up if I think there is one that's too difficult, and I hope no takes it as personal criticism.
Or I might ask for examples of book titles. For the Monopoly cover I relied 100% on the lists of book suggestions that other "wilders" provided. Once I had two good ones, I was on board with it. Especially because it was clear that some people were really enjoying the search. I have fun with other types of prompts, and I think that may be true of a lot of us.
I love to see examples of titles, or a good link with all types of prompts. I think it helps all voters when the person suggesting a prompt provides some examples. I know that the Small Town examples swayed me last summer when voting.
For clarification I’m not dissing cover prompts my issue was that another post seemed to imply that title and cover prompts are the ones that get picked when actually we have various suggestions that get in and if you look at categories there aren’t noticeablely more title or cover prompts
Joyce wrote: "Jill wrote: "How about “a book with a person’s name in the title”?"Apparently there’s a real trend for book titles containing people’s full names at the moment. Something to do with the success o..."
I know! Harry Potter, Olive Kitteridge, Eleanor Oliphant, Evelyn Hugo, Daisy Jones, Sam Hell, Jane Eyre, what else? I just put myself on my library's wait lists for Carrie Soto is Back.
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Today is a voting day isn't it? Does anyone know what time?
NancyJ wrote: Thomas wrote: "A book you’ve seen a film of and one you haven’t"I like the first part of that sentence - A book you've seen a film of. Or a book with a movie or TV series adaptation. (whether you've seen it yet or not) In the weekly topic discussion, people might choose to comment on the movies too.
"One you haven't" could be anything, so I would leave it off.."
I think the prompt is confusing the way it is worded. I would say:
a book with a film adaptation that you have seen
a book with a film adaptation that you have not seen
Thomas wrote: "For clarification I’m not dissing cover prompts my issue was that another post seemed to imply that title and cover prompts are the ones that get picked when actually we have various suggestions that get in and if you look at categories there aren’t noticeablely more title or cover prompts."There are usually a lot of suggested prompts related to covers and they tend to get voted in more easily and quickly than other types of prompts. In fact, last year the mods had to set a rule that we couldn't have any more cover prompts to keep the prompts balanced.
NancyJ wrote: "Joyce wrote: "Jill wrote: "How about “a book with a person’s name in the title”?"Apparently there’s a real trend for book titles containing people’s full names at the moment. Something to do with ..."
Yes! Voting today - re the time, I'm 7-odd hours ahead of the US, so I don't usually see voting open before the evening at the earliest, sometimes I only vote the next day. Am excited to get started with the voting season LOL!
I kept stats last year but I started late and I didn't keep them. I only had stats for what got in, not what got suggested. Maybe this year I'll track suggestions too so next year we'll know. Cover (and title) prompts are definitely suggested the most.This year Pop Sugar expanded their cover prompts to be more inclusive for those with vision problems, e.g. A book with a tiger on the cover or "tiger" in the title, A book with cutlery on the cover or in the title, etc. I liked that the prompts included both cover and title, which both makes those prompts a little easier and also allows for additional more creative prompts. I'm not saying we need to do that, just some food for thought.
Where will the voting thread be posted hwen it does come?
Thomas wrote: "Where will the voting thread be posted hwen it does come?"Last year, the mods posted a link in the Reading List - Introduction, Schedule, and FAQs. It should also be a new thread under ATY 2023.
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
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Link to the pre-poll: https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/Z41JSS/
For those of you who are new to the process or just running low on memory space (*raises hand*), for each round of voting, we'll post the suggestions, voting, and results threads in the 'ATY 2023' folder. We'll also make announcements here and in the 2023 info and schedule thread. If you prefer to get notifications rather than refreshing the page endlessly, click the "notify me when people comment" button just above the comment box on the 2023 info thread. You can adjust that to send you an email or to just give you a GR notification depending on your preferences.
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Pamela wrote: "Louise wrote: "Maybe a "Match 2" category?A book with a lock on the cover/in the title - and a book with a key on the cover/in the title?
(camera/photograph, coffee/cake etc)"
OMG- this happened ..."
Ooh, that IS spooky. Now I'm inspired to look at MY covers for the year!
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I guess as an e-reader I don't have an issue with a cover prompt because I use the lists created rather than finding one myself. I have fine vision, but the only time I ever see a cover is when it's little on my kindle library screen
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A book with a lock on the cover/in the title - and a book with a key on the cover/in the title?
(camera/photograph, coffee/cake etc)"
OMG-..."
So spooky! Didn't notice till I saw them on the Goodreads Currently Reading list. And for it to happen 2x without even trying= weird!
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Best day of the year!!! Well, kinda.
I do feel the voting always begins when my current year list is to the filling in holes point so I can start having fun planning for next year.
Pamela wrote: "Jackie wrote: "Let the voting begin!.."Best day of the year!!! Well, kinda.
I do feel the voting always begins when my current year list is to the filling in holes point so I can start having fu..."
Me too. I'm almost done with the main challenge. I'm working on my side challenges and rejects lists now, which is always fun. I love the surprises that I didn't (consciously) plan for. Like a book that takes place all in one day. (I didn't realize it until the very last page.)
This is the perfect time to think about the kinds of prompts you WISH you had this year.
Pamela wrote: "Nadine in NY wrote: "Emily wrote: "Oh yea definitely. I'm due to have a baby November 17th, so I'm not sure I'll finish this year's challenge. We do the best that we can do under the circumstances ..."It gets far worse when/if you have a second kid - there are 16 months between my two - and nursing a baby while the 2 year old vigorously explores the world is.... not very reader-friendly 😂
I have an idea that I would love feedback on and definitely need help to present it clearly: Read a book recommended by Goodreads. My thought is that you go to the recommendations under browse on your page and choose a book or if those books aren't of interest you could find a book someone in a group recommends.
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I nominated something like that last year--- I based it on the "if you like this book, you might like..." feature on a book's page. This version works- I went over and looked at what it recommended for me. I like that I can't do my normal shortcut of looking at a list and finding something I marked To-Read. One of the best books I read before joining GR was there! There need to be a few prompts each year that stretch you to read something you might not have considered right away.
I'm sure other people will argue that they don't like the recommendations Goodreads makes- that's what I heard last year- but you can keep tweaking the recommendations till you get something interesting. I'm def in.
Last year I floated using the weekly "Great Books Hitting Shelves This Week" feature but it didn't get a second.If the Goodreads Choice Awards doesn't get in, I'd like to see "recommended by Goodreads" in some fashion.
Pamela wrote: "RachelG. wrote: "I have an idea that I would love feedback on and definitely need help to present it clearly: Read a book recommended by Goodreads. My thought is that you go to the recommendations ..."I like this idea. I certainly would prefet to Goodreads awards
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https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/Z41JSS/
Emily wrote: "Today is the final day to vote in the pre-poll! Results will be posted tomorrow.https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/Z41JSS/"
sooner than I thoguht. Time flies
@Emily: your new folder for Suggestions That Didn’t Make It Onto The List has typo. Says 2022 instead of 2023. Thanks for all the work getting us all set up!
Thomas wrote: "I like this idea. I certainly would prefet to Goodreads awards.."Me too. At least those recommendations have a chance to be on my TBR. The GR awards have devolved into those Amazon wants to promote. And if you don't care for the recommendations, you can always hit the button that says you are not interested, and it will be replaced with one you may like.
Emily wrote: "Today is the final day to vote in the pre-poll! Results will be posted tomorrow.https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/Z41JSS/"
Ohh and the fun of waiting for results begins.....can't wait!
Then Friday the exciting process of submitting prompts
For a the Goodreads rec idea, I much prefer the "readers also enjoyed" selection than the recommendations. The suggestions the "recommendations" feature gives me are terrible. Today the home page rec suggested I read a book about making babies because I'm currently reading a book about anxiety?!
Ellie wrote: "For a the Goodreads rec idea, I much prefer the "readers also enjoyed" selection than the recommendations. The suggestions the "recommendations" feature gives me are terrible. Today the home page r..."I agree, Ellie - home page recommendations are ridiculous, and bear no relation to "because you enjoyed xxx"!
Maybe an either or option? But first let’s see if goodreads awards gets in I believe the results are later today
I would like to somehow incorporate it to all suggestions that we see via Goodreads because the readers also enjoyed xxx to me is just another recommendation as is a book suggested by others in a group setting. I would rather have lots of options than a narrow set.I agree Thomas that we need to see the results of the results later today.
Nadine in NY wrote: "Thomas wrote: "A book you’ve seen a film of and one you haven’t"I like this. Sometimes I read the book before I see the movie, and sometimes I see the movie (or TV show) before I read the book..."
Please no prompts related to watching movies. I rarely watch movies. On the rare occasions when I go to a movie based on a book I have loved, I am almost always disappointed.
Shannon wrote: "Ellie wrote: "For a the Goodreads rec idea, I much prefer the "readers also enjoyed" selection than the recommendations. The suggestions the "recommendations" feature gives me are terrible. Today t..."So true, whatever algorithm Goodreads is using to pick recommendations is a waste of space.
Edie wrote: "Nadine in NY wrote: "Thomas wrote: "A book you’ve seen a film of and one you haven’t"I like this. Sometimes I read the book before I see the movie, and sometimes I see the movie (or TV show) b..."
I'd also prefer not to have any prompts based on watching movies/TV shows, but mostly because I feel it's been a bit overdone. I see some variant of it in almost every single challenge.
For the Goodreads prompt, what about "a book you first heard of on Goodreads". That would cover books you got recommended via the algorithm, books that someone else mentioned on an ATY thread/listopia, or even just those random books you've never seen until a GR friend posts a gushing review.
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Ditto- I always listen to the beginning of a book on normal speed when driving a regular route (I listen while driving). Once I'm feeling the book, I speed it up.