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message 451: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3745 comments We still need 4 more suggestions. Is there anyone hanging around who has not yet suggested or seconded a prompt?

The pre-poll prompts are all so good, if it's not too soon.

Other ideas:
A book set in a location that begins with A, T, or Y (Joy)
A non-fiction book
A book with an indigenous character or author
A book set in the future
A book set in a large city


message 452: by Madelynn (new)

Madelynn | 95 comments This is only my first year doing the challenge but I have a concept that I'm not sure if it's been done or if it needs some fleshing out. I want to have something along the lines of

"A book in a format that's different than you usually read".

This could be like physical book vs. digital vs. audio or the way that the book is laid out like poetry or a book in verse vs. more traditionally written novels vs. a graphic novel.

My goal is to not make this prompt inaccessible if people can only do reading or only audio but I like the idea of getting into something that's outside of my comfort zone.


message 453: by NancyJ (last edited Jul 01, 2022 11:27AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3745 comments I could use some help with this idea for a future week:

A book with someone living "on-the-road"
-I was thinking this could be someone who is a migrant or refugee (American Dirt).
-Someone living in a camper (Nomadland) or their car.
-An itinerant worker (if I'm using the term correctly), such as farm workers, traveling temp workers, traveling sales people, consultants, campaign workers, comedians or singers who travel from one gig to another. (The People we Keep),
-In other eras or locations they might be called nomads, travelers, vagrants, hobos, Oakies (The Four Winds), or people who ride the rails (Lincoln Highway sort of fits).
Or it could be book about Jack Kerouac.

It might also apply to travelers on long trips (such as backpacking across Europe or South America) - just in case there are no good travel prompts later on.

Another idea:
A book that touches on a religious or spiritual topic.
Or a book that involves (includes?) a religious character or topic. I'm thinking of books like The Sparrow, Agatha of Little Neon, The Year of the Flood. I'll need examples from different genres.


message 454: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments I hate to be negative Nancy. But Pop Sugar had that last year and it was really difficult for me.

I read books in print, on Kindle, and listen to audiobooks. I can't read graphic novels, I have difficulty following them. I ended up doing a book in verse, which I ended up enjoying, but I really struggled with the prompt. There were a lot of people on the PS Facebook group who had the same issue. I would not vote for it if it made a poll.


message 455: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3264 comments @NancyJ
I like your idea, and the number of ways you listed that someone could be considered "homeless". Sounds like you were looking for a different term to use though - right?

How about "a book involving someone without a permanent address"?


message 456: by Madelynn (new)

Madelynn | 95 comments Nancy wrote: "I hate to be negative Nancy. But Pop Sugar had that last year and it was really difficult for me.

I read books in print, on Kindle, and listen to audiobooks. I can't read graphic novels, I have di..."


Thanks for this feedback, I haven't paid attention to Pop Sugar or other reading challenges so I was not aware of this.


message 457: by Kendra (new)

Kendra | 2132 comments Madelynn wrote: "This is only my first year doing the challenge but I have a concept that I'm not sure if it's been done or if it needs some fleshing out. I want to have something along the lines of

"A book in a ..."


If you dropped off the word format - Just a book that is different from what you normally read, it might work better.


message 458: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michellereading) | 102 comments I have never been a part of this process before and am very overwhelmed and confused. Should be interesting to see how this plays out and if I can ever catch on. 😂🤞


message 459: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Michelle, welcome! It can be overwhelming and confusing at first but you'll catch on. My first year I was totally lost for a couple of rounds of polls.


message 460: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11283 comments Mod
Michelle, welcome! It's a fun process, but if you're overwhelmed, feel free to sit back, watch the discussion, and just vote in the first few rounds to get a feel for how it works. The mods are always happy to answer any questions you have along the way!


message 461: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11283 comments Mod
Voting thread is open for discussion. Link to vote will be posted tomorrow, but feel free to go discuss now!

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 462: by Shannon (new)

Shannon Ralph | 188 comments Wow. I did not realize it was time already! How exciting!


message 464: by Harry (new)

Harry Patrick Moon goddess sound interesting.

Something related to an ecological catastrophe would also interest me.

Maybe some historical fiction/non-fiction related to a science discovery.


message 465: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2589 comments Mod
Harry wrote: "Moon goddess sound interesting.

Something related to an ecological catastrophe would also interest me.

Maybe some historical fiction/non-fiction related to a science discovery."


Or something to do with the moon-- can read non-fiction about the moon landings, fiction about werewolves, books about people who live on moon like Sea of Tranquility. Or books with moon in the title like Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI or with the moon on the cover (https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/4...)

Even just a moon book https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3...

I love anything I can read a space race book for!


message 466: by Lindsay (new)

Lindsay Kelly | 286 comments @NancyJ

A book that touches on a religious or spiritual topic.
Or a book that involves (includes?) a religious character or topic. I'm thinking of books like The Sparrow, Agatha of Little Neon, The Year of the Flood. I'll need examples from different genres.

I love this idea for religious or spiritual topics. It would also allow people to read about cults or yoga groups as they are normally built around spiritual beliefs. The book I read this year that would fit is In the Days of Rain: A Daughter, a Father, a Cult.

Or books about Henry VIII as he was involved in the reformation of the church in England.


message 467: by Lindsay (new)

Lindsay Kelly | 286 comments My suggestion for a prompt is:
'A banned book or a book about something which has been banned'

This would allow people to read a book which has been banned eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of... or https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/f...
OR to read about something that was allowed but has now been banned such as abortion (in parts of USA) or advanced education of girls/women (in Afganistan)


message 468: by Thomas (last edited Jul 02, 2022 01:47AM) (new)

Thomas Lindsay wrote: "My suggestion for a prompt is:
'A banned book or a book about something which has been banned'

This would allow people to read a book which has been banned eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..."


I admit I am not a fan of banned book prompts partly because it comes up a lot and partly becuase I personally feel its only banned if its a crime, which menas I have to trall threw a lot of banned book lists fidning msot of them are there cos of a high school or public libray. Adding something that is banned is however is a different dynamic. It would include anything set in a bar as some countries now have alchol bans


message 469: by Thomas (new)

Thomas on a side note anyonne got any prompts for diveristy? The suggestion in this poll seems dead in the water


message 470: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11283 comments Mod
Thomas, voting hasn't even opened yet, so don't get ahead of yourself. See how this prompt lands, then you'll know how to move forward. I think there's always interest for a diversity prompt on the list.


message 471: by Anita Jari (new)

Anita Jari Kharbanda | 1 comments I like the idea of a 'book that touches on religion', including stories with lesser known religions like Sikhism, or Bahai.

Another very important one is 'historical fiction about unsung women from different cultures'.


message 472: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2589 comments Mod
Anita Jari wrote: Another very important one is 'historical fiction about unsung women from different cultures'..."

Are there that many choices? Does it have to be an actual woman or just women as a group since women as a whole go unsung? I think the word "unsung" is tripping me up.


message 473: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michellereading) | 102 comments I’ve never suggested a prompt before, but saw that 2023 is the 60th anniversary of MLK’s “I Have A Dream” speech and thought a prompt related to dreams or dreaming would be cool - just trying to find the right way to phrase it.


message 474: by Martha (new)

Martha (marthag503) | 530 comments Michelle wrote: "I’ve never suggested a prompt before, but saw that 2023 is the 60th anniversary of MLK’s “I Have A Dream” speech and thought a prompt related to dreams or dreaming would be cool - just trying to fi..."

I like the idea of that prompt if it included books that promote hope rather than doom and hopelessness about the future or books that promote ideas and dreams rather than giving up. I'm not trying to hijack your idea, but I would certainly vote for that prompt if it included such books.


message 475: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments The problem I see with the not CIS, white, and male prompt is I don't really see it as much of a diversity prompt in today's publishing age. As others have said the vast majority of books I read are by women, and I've read that it's increasingly difficult for new white male authors to get published because women read more than men, and prefer female authors.

Now, if it were not CIS, white, OR male, then that's definitely a diversity prompt. Or, not CIS, white and male that was published before 2000 or something.


message 476: by Kendra (last edited Jul 02, 2022 02:09PM) (new)

Kendra | 2132 comments Or just "An author who is not cis and white." and leave male/female out of it.


message 477: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11283 comments Mod
I would appreciate that wording change, Kendra, and maybe "An author who is not BOTH cis and white" - which would clarify that they could be one or the other but not both.


message 478: by Joy D (last edited Jul 02, 2022 04:57PM) (new)

Joy D | 727 comments Could I ask if it is common that authors disclose whether or not they gender-identify with their birth sex ("cis")? This seems to be the crux of the issue for me. It seems to me this is very personal info. and I would not want to go looking to see which authors have disclosed this and which have not.


message 479: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 2287 comments Joy D wrote: "Could I ask if it is common that authors disclose whether or not they gender-identify with their birth sex ("cis")? This seems to be the crux of the issue for me. It seems to me this is very person..."

A lot of authors openly identify as transgender or nonbinary or genderqueer, but you can also satisfy this prompt by reading any author who is not white.

https://bookriot.com/books-by-trans-a...
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/th...
https://booksandbao.com/transgender-s...
https://strandbookstore.medium.com/co...


message 480: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 727 comments Thanks, Nadine. I have read some of these authors, but never investigated their personal "identification."


message 481: by Kahlia (last edited Jul 02, 2022 10:49PM) (new)

Kahlia | 103 comments NancyJ wrote: "We still need 4 more suggestions. Is there anyone hanging around who has not yet suggested or seconded a prompt?

I'm likely to miss most of the nominations as the posts usually go up in the dead of night my time, but one of my original ideas was "a book related to a Time Magazine person of the year", if someone else wanted to suggest a similar prompt on my behalf.


message 482: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (last edited Jul 03, 2022 01:03AM) (new)

Robin P | 4051 comments Mod
Kahlia wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "We still need 4 more suggestions. Is there anyone hanging around who has not yet suggested or seconded a prompt?

I'm likely to miss most of the nominations as the posts usually go u..."


That’s interesting. A couple times it was odd things like the Computer or Women. It would be great to attach a link to a list., such as https://public.opendatasoft.com/explo....

It doesn’t have to be the person only, for instance, Greta Thunberg won, so you could read about climate change.


message 483: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Joy D wrote: "Thanks, Nadine. I have read some of these authors, but never investigated their personal "identification.""

while your point is valid isn't that also true of any pormpt invovling trans or non binary authors? I just feel that prompts on this issue are going to come up


message 484: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I had thoguht of an alternative for the future: A book by an authro who is female and/Or BIOPIC. Now I going to either suggest that won a literary award ( women authors are indeed very prominant now but until the last few years often udner represented at the major awards) or "at leat 50 years old" which would be a better caveat?


message 485: by NancyJ (last edited Jul 03, 2022 02:59AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3745 comments Joy D wrote: "Could I ask if it is common that authors disclose whether or not they gender-identify with their birth sex ("cis")? This seems to be the crux of the issue for me. It seems to me this is very person..."

I read an article last year that said that many groups are avoiding LGBT (especially transgender) author challenges, because it could be an invasion of their privacy or even a safety risk. They recommended focusing on characters or topics, or giving a choice of character or author.

I would probably vote for this: Read a book with a transgender or non-binary character or author. This is broader than just an author prompt, but it still might be too narrow for some readers.

There are a few trans or non-binary authors (such as Kacen Kallender), who are selling a lot of books due to their disclosure, but it's a really hard decision for most authors.


message 486: by Kahlia (new)

Kahlia | 103 comments I would probably vote for this: Read a book with a transgender or non-binary character or author. This is broader than just an author prompt, but it still might be too narrow for some readers. I'm not sure how I feel about it ethically. (It feels wrong to encourage an author to risk their privacy/safety in order to sell more books.)

I like this iteration of the prompt! For those that did want to read a book by a non-cis author, there are enough authors who are out these days that you could find something to read without being invasive of people's privacy (or at at least there are in the science fiction/fantasy space, I know not all genres have as many openly trans and nonbinary authors)


message 487: by NancyJ (last edited Jul 03, 2022 02:50AM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3745 comments Kahlia wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "We still need 4 more suggestions. Is there anyone hanging around who has not yet suggested or seconded a prompt?

I'm likely to miss most of the nominations as the posts usually go u..."


I LOVE this idea. It might help to have some book titles or links.

The list Robin posted shows some great themes - Peacemakers, Silence breakers, Whistleblowers, Endangered Earth. The Protestor. Women.

I agree that Greta Thunberg represents Climate Change, so we could read any book on climate change. (I read a book of her speeches this year.) I would still love to see Climate Change as a prompt on its own, but the Time prompt would enable people to pick their own favorite topics or people from the list - such as "women."

I would love to see a list of books related to the Silence Breakers. I assume this refers to breaking the silence about sexual assault. I know there are at least a few. I just re-read Beartown, and I was impressed by how well it was handled (by an author that is so easy to read).

I don't remember the Protester issue, but the Whistleblower issue was huge for me. It had a big impact on how I did my job.

I would really love to see some examples of books for each of the big themes, and some of the leaders. I can update my climate change list. Is anyone else interested in taking a topic?


message 488: by Thomas (new)

Thomas NancyJ wrote: "Kahlia wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "We still need 4 more suggestions. Is there anyone hanging around who has not yet suggested or seconded a prompt?

I'm likely to miss most of the nominations as the pos..."

Poetentially but I need to look through the topics first.


message 489: by Shannon SA (new)

Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 713 comments I prefer Thomas's wider term "not cis, white and male" to the narrower "transgender or non-binary......"


message 490: by NancyJ (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3745 comments Kahlia wrote: "I would probably vote for this: Read a book with a transgender or non-binary character or author. This is broader than just an author prompt, but it still might be too narrow for some readers. I'm ..."

The links Nadine posted are really helpful. I particularly like the list of books by adult authors (versus YA authors).


message 491: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Shannon wrote: "I prefer Thomas's wider term "not cis, white and male" to the narrower "transgender or non-binary......""

Thnak you Shannon. Howeevr tbh I have other things I want to suggest so I proably won't propose this one again, at least not for a few polls (obviosuly it gets bottomed not at all)


message 492: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Each year, I half-heartedly try to throw in a prompt about a cat. But my kitty just died so now I want to actually work hard to get it in!

I was thinking "a book with a cat featured in the story, title or cover"

Thoughts? I also considered a book "connected to" or "related to" but know people aren't fans of those phrasings. Is "featured" too much? Should I just do "a book with a cat in the story, title or cover"?

Any other ideas?


message 493: by Shannon SA (new)

Shannon SA (shannonsa) | 713 comments I'm so sorry about your kitty! I would vote for "a book with a cat in the story, title or on the cover".


message 494: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I will happily vote for cat stuff


message 495: by Harini (new)

Harini (rini11) | 151 comments Alicia wrote: "Each year, I half-heartedly try to throw in a prompt about a cat. But my kitty just died so now I want to actually work hard to get it in!

I was thinking "a book with a cat featured in the story, ..."


I am so sorry about your cat. I would vote for anything that is remotely related to animals.


message 496: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 1356 comments Sorry to hear about your cat Alicia. I always vote for the animal ones , so would upvote a cat one. I'm still waiting for the rabbit.


message 497: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Jill if no one puts it in poll 2 I will put it in poll 3


message 498: by Nadine in NY (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 2287 comments NancyJ wrote: "I read an article last year that said that many groups are avoiding LGBT (especially transgender) author challenges, because it could be an invasion of their privacy or even a safety risk. They recommended focusing on characters or topics, or giving a choice of character or author. ..."



I've seen some articles saying that, too, but I don't understand it. I'm not invading anyone's privacy. A lot of authors openly identify as part of a group (ethnic group, religious group, sexual orientation group, disability group, etc) and I can just choose one of those authors when prompts specify it. It's not like I'm a PI prying into their trash to find out.

The only connection I can see is that publishers might pay attention to reading challenges and pressure their authors to openly identify in an attempt to increase sales. And I know publishers do sometimes pressure their authors to "out" themselves, which is awful, but I doubt reading challenges like this are the cause.

Publishers are looking at sales figures. If they see LGBT authors $$ rising, they want more LGBT authors. The only way to prevent that pressure, then, is to not buy LGBT authors, but that doesn't seem like a good solution.


message 499: by Russio (new)

Russio | 1 comments Something written in or near your home town/city/state.


message 500: by chysodema (new)

chysodema | 137 comments This is my first year participating in the challenge (or any book challenge). I think I am putting these ideas for next year in the right place in the right format?

- A book with "hope" in its title, theme, or genre (e.g. "hopepunk")

I figured we could all use some hopefulness right about now.

- A book set in the furthest place you (the reader) have ever been from home

- A book that started as fanfiction


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