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message 251: by H.M.R. (new)

H.M.R. (mybookcaseandi) | 381 comments yeah but since they were 9-12 year old books they avoided it. but I have to agree with you and I know this sounds horrible but I tend to enjoy sad books.


message 252: by Tamara (new)

Tamara Georges  (tamarasinnamon) No, I totally understand!! I enjoy them too, even though my heart is broken. :( That's one of the reasons I enjoyed TKS so much, I also really love the characters, it's not often I can relate/connect to a fictional character emotionally. Awesome job Jaye!!!!


message 253: by H.M.R. (new)

H.M.R. (mybookcaseandi) | 381 comments yeah I totally agree with you


message 254: by gabi (new)

gabi | 358 comments I'm just going to say that if... if Ms. Jaye/Molly kills Rayad it will probably be in the last book. I just can't imagine a book without Rayad, so she'll (if she does) probably kill him at the end or not at all. I mean, she'll probably have an epic battle at the end and he might die then.


message 255: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments JUST FINISHED RESISTANCE. I am sooo, so glad I already have TKS. ;)


message 256: by gabi (new)

gabi | 358 comments I love Resistance and The King's Scrolls so much. I can't tell which I love better.


message 257: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments :D I'm going to go disappear for several hours after I catch up on a few things. ;)


message 258: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments Guys! I had a horrible thought! I don't think Jaye L. Knight would kill off Kyrin, but what if she maimed her really bad! Like made it where her arm gets chopped off or her eye gets gouged out! Then Kyrin would have to learn to live with her new injury, and the roles of Jace and Kyrin would be switched! Jace is the one who encourages Kyrin and Kyrin is the one down on herself. Who could ever love half a person? (Well not really but you get the idea)


message 259: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments No. Just no. Go to your room and think about what you just said.


message 260: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments I am in my room Kendra. ;)


message 261: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 467 comments That sounds horrible! No! Jaye is going to invent character bubble wrap and keep them safe foreverrrrrrrrr.


message 262: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments I don't like the thought either, do you think Jaye L. Knight will kill any of the mains?


message 263: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 467 comments NO. I DO NOT THINK SO. *says it loudly to make sure Jaye hears*



(Jaye, if you kill off the main characters, I will die with them.)


message 264: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments Haha bubble wrap! I like it! Wait... Bubble wrap isn't invented yet right? Maybe THAT'S what the arena like thing is in Arcacia, a bubble wrap factory!!!!


message 265: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments Hahahaha dramatic!!


message 266: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments I very much like that idea.


message 267: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments Yeah me too, better than the idea that Jace might fight in the arena. I think it would tear me up to see him forced to fight again. :,(


message 268: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 342 comments That would be horrible. But going on Pirates & Faith and Makilien, I think all the mains will survive to the end intact.


message 269: by Sierra (new)

Sierra | 116 comments Jaye? Soooo, Firefly and I were talking yesterday (well, talking, as in half fangirl noises and half actual words) and, um, could you maybe tell us if "The Rift" occurs before or after "The Kiss"? Pleeeeeeeeeeeease? *hopeful smile*


message 270: by Brie (new)

Brie Donning (briedonning) | 199 comments Some reason I am not overly affected by worrying. It may sound heartless, but I'm enjoying reading about everyone worrying.
I know everything will be okay in the end.

My reaction when I read the sneak peek you've been talking about was, "She's teasing the Jayrin shippers." Not that I don't think that they belong together.


message 271: by Merenwen (new)

Merenwen Inglorion | 106 comments Not sure if this comment should go under this thread, or "Series Suggestions"...probably this one... :/

*finishes reading chapter 24*

Either a total redemption for the General (what would have to happen for that to even be possible????), or a Shredder-like death scene...
Though he seems more like one of those characters that would survive to the end/near the end, and either do something silly that would get himself killed, or get off "easy" and be banished... *broods*


message 272: by Rachael (new)

Rachael Steele | 10 comments I think that he should go to jail for life.


message 273: by Sarah (new)

Sarah R. | 80 comments I think he is going to become one of the main bad guys, like up there acting with Richard. Maybe Daican will even use him to act all redemptive to gain information about the Resistance!


message 274: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments Oooh... I really hope that doesn't happen. Poor kids. :(


message 275: by Brie (new)

Brie Donning (briedonning) | 199 comments Sarah wrote: "I think he is going to become one of the main bad guys, like up there acting with Richard. Maybe Daican will even use him to act all redemptive to gain information about the Resistance!"

Nooo...


message 276: by Merenwen (new)

Merenwen Inglorion | 106 comments Sarah wrote: "I think he is going to become one of the main bad guys, like up there acting with Richard. Maybe Daican will even use him to act all redemptive to gain information about the Resistance!"

That's even worse than what he did before. *most of wish for redemption is gone, replaced by longing for death by garbage truck* *tries to tell self that all will come out right in the end* o_o


message 277: by Rachael (new)

Rachael Steele | 10 comments How can I sign up to beta-read Samara's Peril?


message 278: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments I think Jaye asks for beta readers in personal emails - at least, that's what she did with TKS.


message 279: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments I would looooove to do that... *wistful sigh*


message 280: by Amanda (new)

Amanda Beguerie (amandabeguerie) | 467 comments I would too, haha. Guess we'll have to leave it up to her...


message 281: by Rachael (new)

Rachael Steele | 10 comments Oh. I would love to beta read it though! I can't wait to read it!


message 282: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments So does anyone want to talk about the fact that Ilyon is still in Old Testament times?


message 283: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments Ooh, that's a good point. Will a Jesus figure be coming... or is someone we know a Jesus figure?


message 284: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments Well, someone (I forget who) and I were speculating on this earlier, where a Jesus figure would fit in, and Jaye seemed to indicate that there would be one.

All in all, I'm quite intrigued by the decision to actually address Old Testament sacrifices.


message 285: by Erika (new)

Erika Mathews (erikamathews) | 199 comments I think it's so powerful. Can't wait to read more of it.


message 286: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments Definitely! I'm curious about the possibility of Jace being the Jesus figure... he's obviously not perfect, but... idk.


message 287: by Firefly (new)

Firefly (fireflys12) | 256 comments I was really interested about that too. I had been wondering where Jesus would fit in and whether there would be a church of some sort...


message 288: by Sierra (new)

Sierra | 116 comments I think I placed it around the time of the early church, before the excerpt, obviously. And I really don't think Jace is the Jesus figure. Unless we're talking about a "type of Christ" like Moses or David, and not an allegorical Jesus figure


message 289: by Erika (new)

Erika Mathews (erikamathews) | 199 comments The "church" is the Resistance. Greek = ecclesia = called out ones. The Resistance are called out of the masses - called to rule, and pray, and stand.


message 290: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (wordfitlyspoken) | 158 comments That was really interesting. I guess I always assumed it was in NT times, what with Timothy and all...

Interesting. Very interesting indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing how the sacrifices thing pans out.


message 291: by Erika (new)

Erika Mathews (erikamathews) | 199 comments Must have been the Romanish culture that caused those assumptions. :) I haven't equated it to any particular real time, but I figured Elom's Son was coming sometime based on Jaye's hints. :)


message 292: by Kendra (new)

Kendra Ardnek | 541 comments Seeing as how there had been no references to a Jesus character, and Jaye's hint that there would be one, I had guessed that it was OT, although it certainly does have a more Early Church feel to it.


message 293: by H.S.J. (last edited Jan 15, 2016 08:22PM) (new)

H.S.J. Williams | 109 comments Okay, good, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed the Old Testament twist. The lamb sacrifice threw me off for a second...I was like, "Wait, Blood has already covered our sins once and for all!" And then I was like, "ooooooooooh..." So twill be interesting to see where this goes!


message 294: by gabi (new)

gabi | 358 comments Also, Jaye mentioned need for an "angelic" name!


message 295: by C.B. (new)

C.B. Cook (cbcook) | 293 comments @Gabriela: Yes!!! That's so true!


message 296: by Alyssa (new)

Alyssa | 410 comments Yes, yes, yes!!


message 297: by Brie (new)

Brie Donning (briedonning) | 199 comments The setting doesn't feel quite right for a Jesus figure. I'm not sure I want one. But then Jaye is sure to do it well. It's just the most allegorized thing ever. Hard to make it feel original.


message 298: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 342 comments The Israelites were already controlled by the Romans when Jesus came, so Romanish culture doesn't necessarily mean Early Church. Just the history nerd in me speaking out. :)

The lamb sacrifice definitely intrigued me.

Anna wrote: "The setting doesn't feel quite right for a Jesus figure. I'm not sure I want one. But then Jaye is sure to do it well. It's just the most allegorized thing ever. Hard to make it feel original."

It is very common in allegories. It's important, though. You can't have salvation without the Ultimate Sacrifice. Which means if SP is OT, there has to be one in the future. Theologically speaking. But she would do it well. Just like Jayrin romance is surely done well. :D


message 299: by Brie (new)

Brie Donning (briedonning) | 199 comments I know it's important. I've just seen it the same way too many times. I've tried to put my own story in an imaginary part of our world to avoid having to deal with it.
And in some ways I suppose the slightly different context could make it more powerful. It actually can't be done one of the common ways.


message 300: by Brie (new)

Brie Donning (briedonning) | 199 comments Oh, I just had an idea. It wouldn't work in the time frame I think we were imagining, but what if Kyrin was a Mary figure? I thought of it because of the angelic name mentioned above.


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