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Post here for the #VMBookClub session 3 for Mr. Kiss and Tell


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments Hello!


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Good afternoon marshmallows!


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments Hi!


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Hi all! I'm sure that other marshmallows will be jumping in, but lets get started. Todays session is moderated by me, Lillian (@VMepicLoVe). Thanks for joining!


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments So I have a burning question from the last chapters... maybe I missed this being brought up last week but it's one thing that has been bugging me recently. So on the second page of chapter 14 Logan says he misses money and power. He is also living in Veronica's small apartment. So does he not have as much money as we all assumed he would? Did I miss that detail at some point? I'm not the most thorough reader!


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Tink | 118 comments Hey, I made it.


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Chapter 17-24 are some pretty fast paced and exciting chapters of Mr. Kiss and Tell!


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Chapter 17
Mac has been keeping tabs on her biological parents. Well, if you have the skills to, I guess I would too in her situation. I think we talked a little about this last time but do you all think she should initiate contact with them?


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Chapter 17
Mac has been keeping tabs on her biological parents. Well, if you have the skills to, I guess I would too in her situation. I think we talked a little about this last time but do you al..."


Her mother, definitely


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments I feel like if she hasn't by now she may never and what's the point.


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Leigh wrote: "So I have a burning question from the last chapters... maybe I missed this being brought up last week but it's one thing that has been bugging me recently. So on the second page of chapter 14 Logan..."

I am SO glad you brought this up Leigh! I have been wondering the same thing. I don't want to skip ahead, but later in the book Veronica does make another remark about "never" being rich. Which also made me think of Logan. Do we think his wealth is gone? How?


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Leigh wrote: "I feel like if she hasn't by now she may never and what's the point."

True! If anything it makes me sad she can't have a relationship with her bio sister and mother. But also....how evil is this...I would like to see the look on Madison's face when she found out.


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments Would love to see that! I would like her to have a relationship with her sister but it also seems like something major will happen for her to really connect since she is getting older.


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Leigh brought up a very good question, a topic that isn't really directly addressed, and that is Logan's wealth. Did anyone catch anything where the topic is cleared up? Maybe there was something in TTDTL that we aren't remembering that clears up for us whether or not Logan still has his wealth?


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Tink | 118 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Leigh wrote: "So I have a burning question from the last chapters... maybe I missed this being brought up last week but it's one thing that has been bugging me recently. So on the second page of ch..."

I was wondering the same thing. It's cryptic, but it does suggest so.


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NeptuneQuotes | 49 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Leigh wrote: "So I have a burning question from the last chapters... maybe I missed this being brought up last week but it's one thing that has been bugging me recently. So on the second page of ch..."

maybe he spent it frivolously during the events after season 3 when V was at Stanford (he talks about that in later chapters though) plus living at Neptune Grand for so many months probably didn't help. I can totally see his inherited wealth dissipating.


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments Part of me thinks that Veronica will never think of Logan's money as hers but I also feel like he doesn't have much left anyway... but he does have a nice car!


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments NeptuneQuotes wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Leigh wrote: "So I have a burning question from the last chapters... maybe I missed this being brought up last week but it's one thing that has been bugging me recently. So o..."

Agreed


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I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments But he still has his car! lol


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Tink | 118 comments One would think they do, unless they go to Trina. She was daddy's girl after all.

Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"


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I would have no idea how much Logan would make at his job, but I've always thought that military men don't end up spending a lot when they are away on active duty, which means when he came back he would have a good amount waiting for him to spend. But I don't think Veronica would feel entitled to that.


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Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Leigh brought up a very good question, a topic that isn't really directly addressed, and that is Logan's wealth. Did anyone catch anything where the topic is cleared up? Ma..."

His 21st birthday was so long ago! Why would a parent set up a trust fund that would only last that long!


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

I would think he would get something. And if you invest well you can live well!


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NeptuneQuotes | 49 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

he would have had to leave a will stating that though, right? If no arrangements were made (and thinking of Aaron and how he "unexpectedly" died he probably didn't arrange for that.) I would assume the money would just go to the government.


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

Totally not canon, but the lawyer in me thinks that Aaron's checks would've gone to the K..."


That's awesome


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Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

Totally not canon, but the lawyer in me thinks that Aaron's checks would've gone to the K..."


Oh good point! The Kane's would not have needed the money but they would've enjoyed taking it from Aaron.


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Chapter 18

Veronica goes undercover to talk to Charles Sinclair at his advertising firm. She slips Grace's photo into a stack of fake shots in order to gauge Charles reaction to it. And he DEFINITELY recognizes Grace.


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments yes, i could see that

Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

Totally not canon, but the lawyer in me thinks that Aaron's checks would've gone to the K..."



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NeptuneQuotes | 49 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

Totally not canon, but the lawyer in me thinks that Aaron's checks would've..."


would they enjoy taking money from the person who murdered their daughter? I wouldn't touch one penny :x


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments definitely


Neptune Rising wrote: "Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "I wonder if Aaron's checks from work on all his acting projects would go to Logan?"

Totally not canon, but the lawyer in me thinks that Aaron's checks would've..."



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What would a VM book be without Veronica dressing up and pretending to be someone else? Sometimes I wish I could see how big Veronica's closet is with all these different outfits!


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness.


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Tink | 118 comments I think the trust to last til his 21st birthday was a partial trust. One of those where you get a certain portion until you're of a more responsible age and then you get the larger lump sum amount upon turning 21. That's often how they work. Good questions, everyone!

Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Leigh brought up a very good question, a topic that isn't really directly addressed, and that is Logan's wealth. Did anyone catch anything where the topic is cleared up? Ma..."


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments This is such a great discussion! I am glad I'm not the only one wondering at this, haha.


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Chapter 19

Veronica's plan is still in action when she is (rudely) interrupted by...Madison Sinclair!

Madison is clearly confused (can't blame her, but seriously now, it's Veronica Mars. Obviously you are being tricked)


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Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness."

I hadn't thought about that! Mac is pretty creative too...in her techy way! Maybe she inherited more from him than she would like to admit.


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Leigh Cambra | 102 comments Well dang it, some friends just unexpectedly showed up at my house! Ah I was so looking forward to this but now I have to go! Have fun!


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness."

I hadn't thought about that! Mac is pretty creative too...in..."


Oh, of course! Good point. I just hate Madison so much!


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Now that everyone's minds are going about the topic of Logan's wealth it will be interesting to see if anyone remembers anything about the topic for next weeks discussion, if not maybe we should just ask Rob himself! I was at the book signing on the 4th. I wish I had thought to ask then!


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NeptuneQuotes | 49 comments Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness."

I hadn't thought about that! Mac is pretty creative too...in..."


I wonder how Mac's adorable little sister is doing!!


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Leigh wrote: "Well dang it, some friends just unexpectedly showed up at my house! Ah I was so looking forward to this but now I have to go! Have fun!"

Bye Leigh! Hope to see you next week!


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments NeptuneQuotes wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness."

I hadn't thought about that! Mac is p..."


Maybe she'll show up in a book!


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Mandy Jo wrote: "NeptuneQuotes wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suited to her shallowness."

I hadn't thought..."


That would be wonderful! Using Mac's bio sister or mother to reveal the switch at birth in a case so Mac could finally get some closure.


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Chapter 18

Veronica manages to snag a DNA sample- a sweat soaked towel before quickly making her exit.

Lucky for her Charles practices yoga!


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Mandy (bookwormmanny) | 41 comments Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "NeptuneQuotes wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suite..."

Yeah, kind of a big deal!


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Chapter 19

Logan and Veronica spend some much needed time together. Logan proposes that they get the puppy that Veronica has been asking for.

V: "This is seriously threatening my hardboiled persona. Because I have never wanted to squee so badly in my life."

I've only seen V fake squee before- while pledging the soroity in season 3- and she was NOT happy about it!


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Cyrus wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "NeptuneQuotes wrote: "Neptune Rising wrote: "Mandy Jo wrote: "It kills me that Madison's dad is an awesome creative type. I was sure he'd have a career suite..."

So many loose ends! So many storyline options! So many ways to keep giving us marshmallows #MoreVeronicaMars! And I want them ALL!!!


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Chapter 19

Veronica and Logan bring their new puppy to Mars Investigations.

"Logan gave a nervous laugh, he was always formal around her dad."

Did you find this to be true? I always thought Logan was laid back around Keith. But in kind of a scared way.


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