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2023 Reading John Steinbeck Throughout the Year

Steinbeck’s books in order of preference :
*Of Mice and Men 5 stars
*The Grapes of Wrath 5 stars
*In Dubious Battle 4 stars
*The Wayward Bus 4 stars
*Travels with Charley: In Search of America 4 stars
*The Moon Is Down 4 stars
*The Pastures of Heaven 4 stars
*The Red Pony 4 stars
*Cannery Row 4 stars
*America and Americans and Selected Nonfiction 3 stars
*Once There Was a War 3 stars
*The Winter of Our Discontent 3 stars
*A Russian Journal 3 stars
*The Pearl 3 stars
*Sweet Thursday 2 stars
*To a God Unknown 2 stars
*East of Eden 2 stars
I have reviews of all of these, if you are interested in knowing the reasons for my ratings. They are in my bookshelves.
Chrissie wrote: "Steinbeck is a favorite of mine too. Here follows a lit of how I have rated his book. Pls keep in mind that I am very restrictive with my stars...."
You are well read with Steinbeck's works Chrissie. A nice accomplishment.
You are well read with Steinbeck's works Chrissie. A nice accomplishment.

I think the book I enjoyed least was To a God Unknown.
I read The Grapes of Wrath and East of Eden in my final year of high school. I remember very little about East of Eden on the whole, but The Grapes of Wrath has stayed with me all these years-it's such an outstanding book!
I read The Grapes of Wrath and East of Eden in my final year of high school. I remember very little about East of Eden on the whole, but The Grapes of Wrath has stayed with me all these years-it's such an outstanding book!


I read Grapes for no particular reason, except that I was missing the Steinbeck experience and wanted it back.
Way back in high school I read Of Mice and Men but it was too long ago to remember much, except that it was sad and a little disturbing.

Kevin wrote: " I read Of Mice and Men but it was too long ago to remember much, except that it was sad and a little disturbing..."
Disturbing is a good word for the end. Understanding the why of it made me look at it a little differently. I think that came with reading it at an older age, not as a teenager.
Disturbing is a good word for the end. Understanding the why of it made me look at it a little differently. I think that came with reading it at an older age, not as a teenager.

Disturbing is a good word for the end. Understanding the why of i..."
It is an exciting point of view. It happens to me somehow. Reading in older age.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/....."
Sandy, as Lesle points out, besides the 2022 year-long Steinbeck read in the thread Kathy posted, the group also read a Steinbeck novel a month during 2021 so there really will have been two years of Steinbeck at the end of the year.
The 2021 Archives Authors section contains the 12 threads for the 12 monthy Steinbeck reads during 2021. I'd post them here but I'm too lazy to do that, so here's the first three:
january-the-grapes-of-wrath https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
february-east-of-eden https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
march-in-dubious-battle https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
april-the-long-valley https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
may-the-harvest-gypsies https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
june-cannery-row/sweet-thursday https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
july-tortilla-flat https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
august-the-pearl https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
september-the-moon-is-down/once-there-was-a-war https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
october-the-wayward-bus/travels-with-charley https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
november-a-russian-journal https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
december-the-winter-of-our-discontent https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Oops, I ended up posting all 12 anyway as this busywork was more appealing than other forms of work
Brian E wrote: " as Lesle points out, besides the 2022 year-long Steinbeck read in the thread Kathy posted, the gro..."
Thank you Brian! I will also put a message about your list of past threads under message one.
Thank you Brian! I will also put a message about your list of past threads under message one.
We will continue to keep this thread next year. At year's end I will update message one with some different information.
My hope is to read at least one book next year of Steinbeck's! Any one else thinking about reading one of his Novels or Short Story next year in your wish list?
My hope is to read at least one book next year of Steinbeck's! Any one else thinking about reading one of his Novels or Short Story next year in your wish list?

I'm hoping to start Grapes of Wrath soon. Not sure about next year, Lesle. If I have time, perhaps I might try a short story.

Of Mice and Men
The Red Pony
The Pearl
The Moon Is Down
Tortilla Flat
Cannery Row
(the first four are close to 100 pages; the last two are closer to 200 pages)
And, as Piyangie mentons, Steinbeck has short stories, The Long Valley being a good collection.
So, while lack of interest may be a good reason not to read some Steinbeck, lack of time rarely is.
Of the six shorter works you've mentioned Brian, the only one I haven't read is The Red Pony. So I might do that. With the soon to read The Grapes of Wrath, I feel I've covered a considerable number of Steinbeck.

The Red Pony was one of the first books I was asigned to read in high school. That would have been the fall of 1967. So I first read The Red Pony 55 years ago.
I reread it sometime later in the 20th century. It's worth reading. While the 1949 movie verson is considered to be just so-so, I remember enjoying it.

Trisha, I think I read the Wayward Bus last year. Interesting bus load of people. I hope you like it.
I would love to read the Grapes of Wrath with you, Piyangie but this is really a horrible time for me.
Hopefully next year. I will save reading your review till than too!
Hopefully next year. I will save reading your review till than too!
The thread is just staying open for those interested in reading and sharing next year.
It is really not part of next year's plan other than like Brian has suggested there are many shorter stories that you might be able to fit in, with page count and approximate time to read!
It is really not part of next year's plan other than like Brian has suggested there are many shorter stories that you might be able to fit in, with page count and approximate time to read!
Lesle wrote: "I would love to read the Grapes of Wrath with you, Piyangie but this is really a horrible time for me.
Hopefully next year. I will save reading your review till than too!"
I could have waited, had I not taken it up for a challenge with another group, Lesle. Yes, my reviews do have spoilers, so it's a wise resolution. :)
Hopefully next year. I will save reading your review till than too!"
I could have waited, had I not taken it up for a challenge with another group, Lesle. Yes, my reviews do have spoilers, so it's a wise resolution. :)
I finally managed to start reading Grapes of Wrath. I feel this will be one sad story in the way Steinbeck creates the atmosphere.

I’m so pleased, Piyangie. It was the first Steinbeck book that I read & I struggled with it, partly because I knew nothing about the background to the book. But after reading more of his work I read it again last year & appreciated it. I’m sure I’ll read it again some time.


So if you get the FXM Channel, set your DVR for or watch live at:
11:00 a.m CDT on Thursday, November 17th on FXM to see the movie of The Wayward Bus

Thanks, Brian. Perhaps this will be shown here some time too - I’m in the UK. I watched The Grapes of Wrath a while ago & enjoyed it, even though I was glad I read the book before seeing the film.
I have updated message 1 for next year.
John Steinbeck is still considered one of America's greatest writers and his books are regularly taught in American and British schools.
Do you have plans to fit one in - in 2023?
John Steinbeck is still considered one of America's greatest writers and his books are regularly taught in American and British schools.
Do you have plans to fit one in - in 2023?


Next year I'll probably read more of Steinbeck's short stories but I also intend to read one of the longer novels, either The Grapes of Wrath or East of Eden.
I have added links to all his books in message 1 for ease of researching ones you have not read as of yet!
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Sandy wrote: "I was so bowled-over by the number of Steinbeck’s books that this group has read that I compiled this list of links to all of the NTLTRC discussions that I was able to find. It looks a bit messy bu..."
How wonderful of you Sandy!
This will come in handy.
We do tend to enjoy Steinbeck for sure. When I listed the books for this years update on msg 1 I was surprised that there are some I had not heard of!
How wonderful of you Sandy!
This will come in handy.
We do tend to enjoy Steinbeck for sure. When I listed the books for this years update on msg 1 I was surprised that there are some I had not heard of!
Sandy, your work is appreciated since it place the links in a current discussion. It's good to have them here since we are looking forward to next year.
No apologies necessary! Kudos instead!
No apologies necessary! Kudos instead!

Rosemarie wrote: "No apologies necessary! Kudos instead!"
Hey, I'll take the apology. While I'm used to people immediately forgetting what I have to say, as I did address Sandy in the earlier post, I do appreciate the apology, even if it's an unnecessary one.
Actually, its the recognition and not the apology that I appreciate. Sandy's list does improve on what I had posted by being both more extensive and better organized. So, yes, definitely Kudos for that!
Thanks, Sandy!

On your part, maybe, but as a sports loving male, I can make anything a competition. Nowadays, though, the competition is mostly with myself.
Reading is a main source of self-competition to me as I use Goodreads to track my pages and books read year-to-year, trying to read more each year and more in periods within that year. Even this group competes with itself on yearly page totals.
This competitive reading has some good results as I am enjoying my reading more, but it can cause some adverse behavior. Recently, in another GR group, we were reading two stories that did not have their own GR blurb. I got frustrated that I couldn't use them to add to my GR page and book totals for the year. Reading without getting Goodreads credit threw me off - it felt like it was only practice reading since it didn't count on the scoreboard. I'm still just getting over it and realized that I need to tone those competitive reading urges down or I'll start doing stupid things like avoiding reading something worthwhile merely because it won't count on Goodreads. Maybe meditation or yoga will help.

I suffered from that too Brian, my solution was to join the Goodreads Librarians so I could add books and edit books that had the wrong details. If you tell me the title, author, isbn and page count of those books I can add them for you.

There really is no book or ISBN number to add. The stories never appeared separately in book or Kindle form. I ended up printing off the stories from the Internet: one from a copy of an 1880 periodical that the story appeared in (by Mrs. Oliphant) and the other from an on-line copy of a book that had a compilation of the stories (by Mary Elizabeth Braddon)
And, if there were, its better for me to have to learn to read without GR credit - like auditing a college course.
But thanks for the offer, Mike. Now that I know you're a Librarian I know who to contact for those types of things.
Sounds like someone needs to "Add" those books to Goodreads Brian. You can do it yourself or ask one of our Librarians, we have several in our group!

That's good to know Lesle. I always used to add books myself and the process was fast and easy. GR then removed that option, and their replacement (I won't call it a process) is an almighty mess. Books can take months to get added, and in some cases I've just given up.


That was a good solution Mike - I'll look at joining GR Librarians too.
John wrote: "GR claim you can still add books yourself by submitting details in a csv file; I tried it a few times and they just vanished without trace."
I stopped totally doing it and ask a Librarian to help.
I stopped totally doing it and ask a Librarian to help.

Love the idea! I have only read: "The Grapes of Wrath", "Of Mice and Men." and "Travels with Charley." They were all great reads! very memorable! I definitely want to join your challenge, and look forward to picking my next Steinbeck book. Any suggestions?

Just finished reading Cup of Gold … I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it … I thought it would be more of an adventure story, but actually it was a haunting character study of Sir Henry Morgan … Steinbeck’s ability to create memorable characters blazes bright in this novel …
Happy reading!
Bonita
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