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message 901: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
That's good! I really don't know why they do that reserve date thing, it happened to me once but I went to the end of the list again :(


message 902: by Diana (last edited Feb 06, 2023 08:47PM) (new)

Diana (secondhandrose) | 73 comments Margot wrote: "Cannot understand why this book is so expensive. It's a 384 page mystery novel!

A Killing of Innocents Deborah Crombie

Readings
Paperback $71.99
Hardback $63.99

B..."


Working in a library I'll have a go at answering this.
I have had a look on the Readings website and the two imprints are HarperLuxe (Large Print) and William Morrow and Company (hardback, regular print). As these are both US releases you will be paying for some of the import cost, inflated cost of the item due to a poor exchange rate and postage. This is what I think is the reason for the high prices here.


message 903: by Catsalive (new)

Catsalive | 1467 comments Does anyone have, or know someone who has, an interest in religious history?

I have some books on this topic to give away. I've listed them in Giveaway https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

They're in such good nick that I don't want to dump them.

It would have to be someone in Australia.


message 904: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
I've left you a message in the thread :)


message 905: by Suz (new)

Suz | 4428 comments Just thought I'd share this:

The Guardian's 100 Greatest Novels of all time!

https://booksofbrilliance.com/2023/01...


message 906: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
98% of those books are really old ones and I'd have to say, in my opinion, many of the books I've read are better than some of those listed :) Only my opinion though - thanks Suz!


message 907: by Krystal (new)

Krystal (krystallee6363) | 2304 comments Suz wrote: "Just thought I'd share this:

The Guardian's 100 Greatest Novels of all time!

https://booksofbrilliance.com/2023/01..."


I've read about 13 of these. It seems like a very unoriginal list to me, with many famous classics and not much actual consideration of what people are interested in. Like Brenda said, I've read plenty that I feel would be more worthy of being on this list than some others.


message 908: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Well said Krystal :)


message 909: by Catsalive (new)

Catsalive | 1467 comments They all make me feel inadequate so I ignore them. You never know what criteria are being used on any given list. Even meta-data lists that take a 100 '100 best' lists don't appeal to me.

I may not know much about art, but I know what I like 😂


message 910: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
And that's why we read isn't it, for enjoyment! It was because we had to at school, and I remember not particularly enjoying what was chosen!


message 911: by Diana (new)

Diana (secondhandrose) | 73 comments Brenda wrote: "And that's why we read isn't it, for enjoyment! It was because we had to at school, and I remember not particularly enjoying what was chosen!"

The students in our Book Club wanted to write to an author of a prescribed class text to tell them how boring their book was. 😂


message 912: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Hahaha!!! No doubt they were stopped ;)


message 913: by Dale (new)

Dale Harcombe | 6879 comments Have to say there are some boring books in that list imho.😊 a lot I have not read or no desire to read. A few great ones anda lot not. Not my idea of enjoyment and great books. We are all different though.


message 914: by Carolyn (last edited Feb 08, 2023 10:27PM) (new)

Carolyn | 9837 comments Brenda wrote: "98% of those books are really old ones and I'd have to say, in my opinion, many of the books I've read are better than some of those listed :) Only my opinion though - thanks Suz!"

I think the list should be called 'the 100 Greatest Classic Novels' as there is only a smattering of more recent ones and many wouldn't have appeal to modern readers, except for those who love literary fiction.


message 915: by Catsalive (new)

Catsalive | 1467 comments I've read about a quarter of them & mostly they were quite wonderful & brilliant, not very easy to read, though. I read a lot of classics as a teen but I'm much lazier these days.


message 916: by Trish (new)

Trish (trishr) | 1109 comments Definitely a list of classics, rather than contemporary novels. Like most lists, it lead to lots of debate.


message 917: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald | 404 comments Has anyone else heard about Roald Dahl's books being in the news for receiving edits from sensitivity readers? How do you feel about it?


message 918: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
I haven't heard that Rowan...


message 919: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald | 404 comments The publisher has apparently edited or removed hundreds of words across his books for a new generation.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023...


message 920: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
That seems strange. People appreciate the older stories - I'm sure they wouldn't remove words from old classics like Persuasion or even Anne of Green Gables


message 921: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald | 404 comments I agree, Brenda! I don't like it. Roald Dahl was one of the authors that got me into reading as a child.

If the publisher feels they are now offensive, then a little disclaimer in the first few pages would be enough. I don't think it warrants extensive rewrites.


message 922: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Yes I'm sure we all remember reading him when we were young. I certainly remember my kids reading him, and now my grandkids. I think they've gone too far!


message 923: by Jülie ☼♄  (last edited Feb 19, 2023 04:51PM) (new)

Jülie ☼♄  (jlie) | 6581 comments Rowan wrote: "I agree, Brenda! I don't like it. Roald Dahl was one of the authors that got me into reading as a child.

If the publisher feels they are now offensive, then a little disclaimer in the first few p..."


I agree Rowan, it’s like rewriting the history books because you don’t like the way things turned out 🤦🏻‍♀️


message 924: by Catsalive (last edited Feb 19, 2023 02:10PM) (new)

Catsalive | 1467 comments It's a form of censorship as far as I'm concerned. Definitely rewriting history. Let's make everything as bland & banal as we possibly can. Heaven forfend, someone might be offended. 🤢


message 925: by Krystal (new)

Krystal (krystallee6363) | 2304 comments Rowan wrote: "I agree, Brenda! I don't like it. Roald Dahl was one of the authors that got me into reading as a child.

If the publisher feels they are now offensive, then a little disclaimer in the first few p..."


Totally agree; rewriting seems quite excessive!


message 926: by Andrea (new)

Andrea | 2164 comments My eyes almost rolled out of my head when I heard about this.

Anyway, who gets to decide which adjectives are good, and which ones are bad??!! Surely it’s all about context?


message 927: by Alex (last edited Feb 19, 2023 06:22PM) (new)

Alex Cantone | 982 comments I had a glimpse at the article Rowan referred to, and it seems to spring from the adjective/adverb 'queer' being hijacked by sexual politics. The Merriam-Webster dictionary differentiates it as 1) 'differing in some way' = as odd, strange, unconventional and quotes from 'Alice in Wonderland'. Aside from 2) 'gender non-binary' there are 3) historic meanings from the UK as 'questionable, suspicious' - relating to possible fraud, and to ill-health. I remember my grandfather saying he felt 'queer in the stomach'.

So yes, political correctness, woke-ism, whatever. It's still censorship IMO.


message 928: by Marianne (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments Anyone else addicted to Wordle and other word games? I currently start my morning with WorLdle (countries), Quordle and Wordle, then a bit later do 3 versions of Octordle (regular, Rescue and Sequence) and later in the day I do Nerdle (numbers) and have just discovered Waffle, which I'm finding very challenging.
I rationalise that, together, with reading, I am keeping my brain active :)


message 929: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald | 404 comments I agree with you all! I still use the word 'queer' in regards to something that is strange or odd and respect its usage in regards to sexuality too. I think that's the beauty of words, they can have different meanings and be used in different contexts.

I caught a glimpse at some of the hundreds of changes made to Roald Dahl's books. The lists are extensive. It's a lot more than just a word here or there.

A reference to "Rudyard Kipling in India" has been replaced with "John Steinbeck in California". All references to "fat" in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory have been removed. Many references to "men" or "women" have been removed and made gender-neutral.

Each book has an extensive list of changes like this:

https://old.reddit.com/r/books/commen...

I can't wrap my head around it.


message 930: by Marianne (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments Alex wrote: "I had a glimpse at the article Rowan referred to, and it seems to spring from the adjective/adverb 'queer' being hijacked by sexual politics. The Merriam-Webster dictionary differentiates it as 1) ..."

I agree, right over the top!!
But I just dropped in all my Roald Dahl books to Lifeline and now DH says, they would be worth something to someone who wanted the original versions, too late!!


message 931: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Rowan wrote: "I agree with you all! I still use the word 'queer' in regards to something that is strange or odd and respect its usage in regards to sexuality too. I think that's the beauty of words, they can hav..."

Madness! They certainly are strange - or queer (Alex's grandfather) - as I'm sure us oldies used to say...


message 932: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
Marianne wrote: "Anyone else addicted to Wordle and other word games? I currently start my morning with WorLdle (countries), Quordle and Wordle, then a bit later do 3 versions of Octordle (regular, Rescue and Seque..."

I am addicted to Wordle and Spelling Bee Marianne but I am trying not to add any more to my daily addiction. It impinges on reading time!


message 933: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
And as for the Roald Dahl issue I think the world has gone crazy!


message 934: by Sharon Louise (new)

Sharon Louise | 137 comments Marianne wrote: "Anyone else addicted to Wordle and other word games? I currently start my morning with WorLdle (countries), Quordle and Wordle, then a bit later do 3 versions of Octordle (regular, Rescue and Seque..."

Yes I am addicted to Wordle - used to make sure I was still awake at midnight just so I could do the new one, lol. This was while it was all new to me (which is not that long ago actually). The first time I got it wrong I was devastated to ruin my perfect record!!! Then I do the Spelling Bee.
Do you know there is also a music one - Heardle?


message 935: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
I rather like the spelling bee especially when I manage to use all the letters in one word!


message 936: by Niamh (new)

Niamh | 497 comments Good morning all! I come seeking some advice on regards to setting boundaries at work. For context, I usually work the standard 9-5, Mon-Fri. We have an audit at work today, and my supervisor wants me to do 8-4 so I can spend some time cleaning the office area I'm in before the auditors arrive. However, he texted me at 10:30pm last night to organise that change. I was almost asleep! I usually have my phone on do not disturb between 10pm and 6am, but forgot to turn it on last night.

How do I word myself to tell my supervisor that (a) non-emergency shift changes like this should be organised while I'm still at work, and (b) in the future I will not respond to work-related messages after a certain time (and what should that time be)? Or should I go directly to our boss about this issue?


message 937: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
I'd go to the boss, or HR Niamh! That is totally unacceptable, and not at all respectful of you. Good luck with a response, but definitely don't let it go. Your supervisor should know better, and needs to be pulled into line for what he did!


message 938: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
I was just thinking that the supervisor must be very ineffective at his/her job to not realise until 10.30 at night what was needed!


message 939: by PattyMacDotComma (last edited Feb 21, 2023 07:55PM) (new)

PattyMacDotComma | 3299 comments Niamh wrote: "Good morning all! I come seeking some advice on regards to setting boundaries at work. For context, I usually work the standard 9-5, Mon-Fri. We have an audit at work today, and my supervisor wants..."

Depending how you get along with your supervisor generally, I'd suggest saying that you were startled to hear a message come in on your phone so late, because you assumed it was going to be a serious emergency. Nobody you know would text at that hour unless something was terribly wrong. At least that opens the conversation and gives him a heads-up that it was inappropriate.

Then you can say you plan to speak to HR to see if there are some guidelines about that in the policies and procedures, and if not, there should be. That way, you can let him know you aren't making a complaint but that you don't expect it to happen again.


message 940: by Niamh (new)

Niamh | 497 comments Thanks for the advice everyone. I ended up going to the boss about this, and his reaction was an exasperated sigh, paired with the news that my supervisor had known about this audit since last week and texting me that late is unacceptable.
I've turned on "bedtime mode" on my phone now, so any messages that late will not disturb me in the future.


message 941: by Marianne (last edited Feb 22, 2023 10:06AM) (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments 9pm is the latest I would call anyone unless it's an emergency


message 942: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Niamh wrote: "Thanks for the advice everyone. I ended up going to the boss about this, and his reaction was an exasperated sigh, paired with the news that my supervisor had known about this audit since last week..."

I'm glad you spoke to the boss Niamh. I hope the supervisor gets the message :)


message 943: by Alex (new)

Alex Cantone | 982 comments Re: the Roald Dahl issue, good to see Penguin backpedal after a week of criticism of censorship, led by Salman Rushdie and supported by Camilla, Queen Consort. The 'classic' and 'updated' versions will be published in tandem.


message 944: by Rowan (new)

Rowan MacDonald | 404 comments Alex wrote: "Re: the Roald Dahl issue, good to see Penguin backpedal after a week of criticism of censorship, led by Salman Rushdie and supported by Camilla, Queen Consort. The 'classic' and 'updated' versions ..."

I saw that too Alex! Sanity seems to have prevailed. The criticism has been (rightfully) intense. And the UK was left by themselves on it - with North America, France, Netherlands and others refusing to publish the new edited versions.


message 945: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
I read that too Alex and I like Camilla much more for it:) A modicum of sense prevails!


message 946: by Marianne (last edited Feb 25, 2023 06:29PM) (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments I'm have an entertaining day.
Many of you are aware we're selling out house and downsizing. In the past weeks I've managed to empty the top floor (library, Suz will understand the enormity of that task as she has seen it) all except for chair, settee & coffee table the removalists will take.
Today, managed to finish emptying the lounge room of stuff we aren't using, ornamental and music/movie stuff. Opened the linen cupboard for something soft and light to pack into a box as stuffing, and spotted, at the bottom, several cassette and CD boxes, the type with drawers. Dissolved into laughter: when was the last time we played a cassette???
Then one of the cupboards under the stairs, (three levels, so two of those): found lots and lots of light globes, wondering if DH went out and bought more every time one blew???? Clearly we had too much space! You have to laugh


message 947: by Brenda, Aussie Authors Queen (new)

Brenda | 79989 comments Mod
Sounds entertaining Marianne!!


message 948: by Phrynne, Series Queen! (new)

Phrynne | 15797 comments Mod
I have cupboards in my kitchen that go right up to the ceiling Marianne. I can't even see what is on the top shelf without steps. I have a terrible fear of what is exactly up there.


message 949: by Marianne (last edited Feb 25, 2023 09:27PM) (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments I've been going through those boxes of globes, some loose, many purchased long ago, but I spotted one bag of 4 with a docket 20/7/2020. A never used smoke alarm. And FIVE timer switches, of which THREE are unopened, still in their original packaging. I'm sobbing with laughter upstairs so DH has to come see what now :)


message 950: by Marianne (last edited Feb 25, 2023 09:25PM) (new)

Marianne (cloggiedownunder) | 9975 comments Phrynne wrote: "I have cupboards in my kitchen that go right up to the ceiling Marianne. I can't even see what is on the top shelf without steps. I have a terrible fear of what is exactly up there."

Be afraid, be very afraid! I speak from experience


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