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If someone commits suicide, do they go to heaven or hell?
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Lilyyy wrote: "Hey, Gracel, I'm sure Elizabeth didn't mean anything personally at all <333 I think everyone here has suffered in some way and we're all just trying to make sense of things. Elizabeth did say she d..."
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"hell is all that bad?" lol wat?
Uh, Hell is a place of torment and pain. There is no end to it. Once you go there you will never leave.
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I think we all are in some ways! We just want what we want to be true. I think there's already a lot of pain that can be felt on earth, but hell is like all of that combined all together. It's only for people who pointedly rejected Jesus, though. Jesus wants us all in heaven and not hell, but some people don't want to be in heaven, other people don't like God, and other people don't really care :(
Suicide is impermissible (haram) in Islam. this life is basically a test. Allah says in the Quran-"We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops. Give good news to those who patiently endure who, when faced with a disaster, say, “Surely to Allah we belong and to Him we will ˹all˺ return.” (Quran-2:155-56)
So, in this life, God will test us with hardships. and we are supposed to face the tests and keep our faith in God instead of taking our lives. So, suicide is impermissible in Islam.
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Lilyyy wrote: "I agree that we do go through tests and hardships. I think Christianity and Islam agrees there. I'll take your word for what Muslims believe concerning suicide, but I don't think the two religions ..."Yes, Christianity and Islam have so many things in common. and I think we pray to the same God. but what do you mean by our God is different? your Creator and my Creator are not the same? (can you please come to the religion thread?)
Allah IS different than the God of the Christian Bible.
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Yep I am leaving. I want to honer my sisters name and also not get suicidal tho..."
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Yes, of course! I would be interested to hear more from you concerning this. Just commented on the religion thread.
KM Abiduzzaman wrote: "Suicide is impermissible (haram) in Islam. this life is basically a test. Allah says in the Quran-
"We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops...."
What does impermissible mean?
"We will certainly test you with a touch of fear and famine and loss of property, life, and crops...."
What does impermissible mean?
Too bad to be allowed; you don't have permission to do it
I don’t know. It’s up to God. Suicide is taking your life, and that’s stealing from God. But idk
I think that it depends, if you commit suicide and have done good things in your life, you'll go to heaven. If you were a good person, then God would want you to be by him, and he'd grant you eternal peace in heaven that you couldn't have back down on earth. This is promised by God if you do good things to others. Of course, I can't speak for God because I'm just a human, but I believe that he will have pity on your soul and bring you to heaven.
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Fortissimo wrote: "Allah IS different than the God of the Christian Bible."The Arabic bible has the word Allah in the place of God, if you don't know.
As someone who has had thoughts like these, in the moment you aren't thinking of after your death. It's an in the moment thing, illogical and makes you think it's the only way out. A lot of people treat it as if it's someone simply wanting to go to Heaven early or being a coward. It isn't. It's an escape from Earth, whether you go to Heaven or Hell.
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I do get thay, but most people who commit suicide do have mental issues. Whether they're visible or invisible.
Raini wrote: "Well uh..
I don't believe in hell soo....
Neither!"
My mom doesn't believe in Hell literally. She thinks that you'll always, alive or dead, be given a chance at redemption, and Hell is only a representation of what sin is.
I don't believe in hell soo....
Neither!"
My mom doesn't believe in Hell literally. She thinks that you'll always, alive or dead, be given a chance at redemption, and Hell is only a representation of what sin is.
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I'm gonna sound cruel when I say this, but I do still think that even an escape from earth as a reason is still mental health. I guess maybe it is different in Islam, but Christianity emphasizes that people can change, for better or for worse. While there is life there is hope. You might be having a bad day, a bad week or even a bad year. But God has a plan for Redemption is possible for all of us. It may not be easy and it will certainly not be painless. But it will put you in a better place than just ending it.
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I think every religion prohibits suicide but also prohibit determintal lifestyle such as Alcohol, overdose drugs,and become addicted to non-necessary life substances such as drugs,cigrattes,and beverage that might be unhealthy. However, suicides might take as indication for how society is behaving to maintain the mental health of its own residents. As governments and societies might have become to be very abstract and individualistic and form of egotism like superheros . However, we are people should be more social and more communicative, honest and prevent abuse either physically , emotionally,and mentally from any source. That way the person might find people who is gppd hearted and might think thousand times to do suicide. Even more, If the person suicide, that might be indication of winning of lucifer or iblis because they want prove that humans are useless and that nothing good come from them
Austin wrote: "alice仙境 wrote: "As someone who has had thoughts like these, in the moment you aren't thinking of after your death. It's an in the moment thing, illogical and makes you think it's the only way out. ..."
yeah, i know. mental health is what causes someone to want to escape, sorry if i worded it as if i don't have mental health issues.
yeah, i know. mental health is what causes someone to want to escape, sorry if i worded it as if i don't have mental health issues.
As someone who has lost a close family member to suicide and has quite honestly been in a place several times where I considered suicide and nearly acted upon it, here’s my take from my perspective. If you disagree with any of this, this is just my personal thoughts and experiences with suicide. I totally respect your ability to feel differently than I do. (Also, to everyone in this comment thread who’s lost someone to suicide, my heart goes out to you. It’s an awful way to lose someone, and i know how hard it is to go through grieving that. Keep your chin up, sending so many hugs ❤️❤️)
It’s my personal opinion that once someone is saved, all of their sins are covered over and their salvation is secure (unless they blaspheme God/the Holy Spirit, Mark 3:28-29 has more on that). So I do believe that Christians who commit suicide go to heaven. (And to the people saying “then what’s stopping you from just committing and being in heaven with God?” It’s your will to live. You don’t want to die, your instinct to not be harmed is hardwired into you from birth. It takes a very unhealthy mental state to override that self-preserving impulse).
You have to be in a very dark place to regard killing yourself as a good option, and obviously a place where logic is not a factor. Suicide is often seemingly illogical and irrational to those left in the wake of it, but it makes perfect sense to the suicidal person at the time. You find yourself thinking that the only way out of your problems, of the voices yelling at you in your head, of your omnipresent numbness, of your crippling anxiety, is death. You’re not usually seeking permanent cessation of consciousness, you want to kill a part of yourself. A lot of people who have survived a suicide attempt have talked about how grateful they were that they made it through, and how the second they acted upon their impulses they regretted their decision. It’s something you think about when you’re at rock bottom. Long philosophical debates with your brain about the logistics of going to heaven or hell if you do commit are not really possible. I don’t think that God would abandon people who choose to make that decision. It’s not a lack of faith in God that leads you to think of committing. It’s not that you don’t have enough faith to trust God and you take the “easy” road instead.
This is a bit of a tangent, but I think the Christian community would be SO much healthier if it could realize that mental health issues are usually not at all the fault of the person dealing with them! Sure, there are certainly situational factors to certain disorders, or maybe some bad choices on the part of the person (i.e. taking LSD when you already deal with anxiety) but it is not a lack of faith that causes things like anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, and any other mental illness. They are a result of chemical imbalances and malfunctioning neurotransmitters and genetics and factors like diet and stress, not because people don’t have faith. I get really upset when the church and well-meaning Christians tell people struggling with stuff that they just need to believe more and everything will get better. You can ask God to help you with your depression, but doing only that when you might need actual medication and Jesus isn’t going to help your faith at all.
The way some Christians talk about mental-illness induced suicide is kinda the same way. I don’t agree with what my uncle decided to do. I don’t. I see how that affected the lives of my cousins and aunt, the rest of my family, and myself. But instead of saying that he should have had more faith, I guess I have peace with the decision that he finally came to. He was obviously struggling and I know how that feels. It wasn’t my decision to make for him any more than it was anyone else’s but God’s. I believe that God has forgiven him, and I believe he’s in heaven. That’s my take on it, sorry it got so long but this really is a topic with a lot of stuff to discuss.
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Exactly!! There’s sometimes not a lot you can do about things like depression and anxiety besides maybe meds and talk therapy, you just have to ride it out or learn to live with it. Telling people to get over it is the worst thing you could do. Like, we deal with that every single day of our lives! It’s not something that instantly goes away if we put on a smile! It’s living hell some days, people who deal with stuff like that are so strong ❤️ And you’re right, it’s really hard to understand mental illness without experiencing it. I really value talking to people who can speak to dealing with things like depression and anxiety knowing that they’ve been through the same stuff I have.
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I just think it is cowardly to kill oneself due to depression, etc. God has a plan and committing suicid..."
Yeah, one pastor made an analogy like, what if the Rapture happened right when a Christian was angry and had lost control and was yelling at someone? Would Good be like "Ooop, they didn't repent! They would've been raptured a moment ago but not now!" Of course He wouldn't!