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Hillary "almost cries" in self-pity
pathetic loserShe once complained about not being treated the same as a candidate as the men are treated, but the men who lost didn't come back and whine as much as she has. Mitt Romney simply picked himself up from his defeat and entered the Senate. John McCain just went back to doing his job in the Senate. John Kerry laid low until Obama tapped him for Secretary of State. Al Gore took up climate activism. Bob Dole and George HW both retired quietly. Etc., Etc. I'd say Trump has been a bit of a sore loser, but I'll wait 4 more years to see if he's as bad as Hillary is. The point is, she wanted to break into a "man's world" and get treated with the same respect we treat the male politicians, but she can't take her defeats in stride, lick her wounds, and move on. At this point, you can't think of her as anything but a sore loser.
I agree with Scout and JJ. Rumour has it her husband might be in trouble after the Maxwell trial.
I watched the series "American Crime Story: Impeachment" and there was such an obvious effort to make Hillary look like a stoic, long-suffering, loyal wife to a flawed husband.There is something that seems to happen to people who spend a big chunk of their lives in political - they lose the ability to have any perspective on how they look to others. Did Hillary know how stupid she sounded when she quoted that "I ain't no way tahhhred" in that fake accent? When she barks -"Why aren't I fifty points ahead you might ask?" And when she gets weepy over the speech she never gave.
How can "the smartest woman in politics" be so clueless?
Hill reads phony and hypocritical. I thought Bill was charismatic, while she never came through warmly and in my opinion wasn't a good candidate. As any person she can still deserve some compassion :)
She gets no compassion from me. After watching the entire Benghazi hearings, all I saw from her, after the deaths of innocent people on her watch, was anger and callousness. No remorse, no empathy, just cold resolve not to take responsibility for her actions (or lack of action). If you can find it, watch it sometime, and you'll never have compassion for her.
As for Bill, he lost me at ""I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." He used her and then threw her to the wolves. The Clintons are consummate politicians and immoral people. What do you think?
Unfortunately, moral politicians seem to become a very rare breed. Regret that Bill’s Camp David summit didn’t result in an agreement. Playing sax around the world may not suffice to be remembered as a great president
Poor Hillary. She lost to Obama. She lost to Trump. And Ghislaine started acting weird when Hillary called to ask if she wanted to hang out sometime.
Scout wrote: "As for Bill, he lost me at ""I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." He used her and then threw her to the wolves. The Clintons are consummate politicians and immoral peopl..."That's where he lost you? Not when he incinerated a bunch of women and children in Waco, Texas while letting Al Qaeda freely bomb one US target after another including the first attack on the WTC, right here on American soil? Or when he ripped Elian Gonzalez out of his home at gunpoint to return him to his father? I agree that he should have been returned to his legal father, but to send the feds in the way he did, pointing their rifles right at the poor kid?
BTW, I'm not trying to attack you, I just can't help making a snarky comment about Clinton. He might have some amazing charisma, but he was a genuine monster. he and Hillary couldn't be more perfect for each other.
I agree - they're a perfect match when it comes to being slick and amoral. I think their own party is realizing how bad they are. I noticed that Hillary wasn't nominated to run against Trump the second time around, even though he supposedly stole the election from her. It seems even Dems have a limit on what they can stomach.
Ghislaine Maxwell’s husband dumped her for yoga teacher in jailhouse call: reporthttps://nypost.com/2022/01/03/ghislai...
So this dude had a choice between, "...a yoga enthusiast who “has an a** that could crack open a walnut..." Or being collateral damage of the kill squads sent by HRC and/or the Queen.
I think that we all agree he made the correct decision.
Living through these strange times, where all is not quite as it seems; having thoroughly enjoyed the TV programme ‘Money Heist’; and considering the latest advances in plastic surgery, how about this for a potential alternative explanation:
Maxwell has secretly been granted immunity from prosecution and a completely new life in exchange for not naming names. The world thinks Maxwell is in prison but, in reality, she is her husband’s new yoga friend.
Haw haw, mind-bending stuff :)
Maxwell has secretly been granted immunity from prosecution and a completely new life in exchange for not naming names. The world thinks Maxwell is in prison but, in reality, she is her husband’s new yoga friend.
Haw haw, mind-bending stuff :)
Beau wrote: "Living through these strange times, where all is not quite as it seems; having thoroughly enjoyed the TV programme ‘Money Heist’; and considering the latest advances in plastic surgery, how about t..."It would be easier to convince the world that the symptoms of the new Covid variant include extensive bruising, cranial fractures, and drowning in a prison toilet.
J. wrote: "Beau wrote: "Living through these strange times, where all is not quite as it seems; having thoroughly enjoyed the TV programme ‘Money Heist’; and considering the latest advances in plastic surgery..."Now there is a set of convincing symptoms :-)
Ian wrote: "Now there is a set of convincing symptoms :-)"If only she had gotten the booster shot.
Boy, tough crowd. Hillary clearly has her issues but in comparison with Trump the sedition inciter and pussy grabber? Come on...This was my view at the time, worth reading if only for the response of the mad Israeli (sorry Nik).
https://adriandeans.wordpress.com/201...
Come on, Adrian, an ungentlemanly comment and inspiring a fun day out vs (to quote then fellow Democrat Congresswoman, Tulsi Gabbard) being ‘The Queen of Warmongers’?
Trump might have been uncouth but it’s easy to see why he won back in 2016. Besides, have you seen what his replacement is like? Is the guy still functioning?
Right now, if Australia is to reverse its move to becoming a post-democratic state and become lucky again, it’s going to need its very own Donald Trump.
Make Australia Lucky Again!
Trump might have been uncouth but it’s easy to see why he won back in 2016. Besides, have you seen what his replacement is like? Is the guy still functioning?
Right now, if Australia is to reverse its move to becoming a post-democratic state and become lucky again, it’s going to need its very own Donald Trump.
Make Australia Lucky Again!
Australia's already lucky. Only 26 million people but the 12th biggest economy.The last thing we need is a deluded demagogue.
You appear to have one of those running every state at the moment. Good news about the economy, though, but prepare for the advent of 5-year plans once China takes charge.
Adrian wrote: "This was my view at the time, worth reading if only for the response of the mad Israeli (sorry Nik)...."Read with interest. Trump acted like a true friend of Israel and for that I'm grateful. I think all those who expected disaster, when he was elected, realized that nothing bad happened. As much as I'm left-leaning all my life, I have the feeling the left in some places has lost touch with reality.
If your post spurred Hill's response, it was a worthy venture :)
Beau wrote: "You appear to have one of those running every state at the moment. Good news about the economy, though, but prepare for the advent of 5-year plans once China takes charge."You have a lot to say about Australia Beau but I'd be very interested to see how your opinions might change if you ever came and stayed for a while.
Australian political opinions are notoriously centrist but your views always seem to express an extremism that VERY few ever manifest here. Except perhaps in chatroom echo chambers.
Dan Andrews, for example, is very popular in Victoria despite the noisy minority. Anastasia Paluszczuk is also popular in QLD despite the few who might suggest otherwise.
Australians generally regard their politicians (with the exception of Scomo the Happy Clapper) to have handled the pandemic well.
Mind you, our weirdly sycophantic/aggressive attitude to China is a major concern.
Just had a chat with a friend from Sydney, who told me that Dominic who succeeded Gladys, who resigned in the wake of corruption suspicions (what? corruption? in Australia?), canceled most corona restrictions...
Adrian, I've visited every Aussie state apart from ACT but in the 15 years since I last set foot there the country appears to have changed out of all recognition. For the worse.
I hold what would have been slightly left of centre views in Australia back then but the Overton window has not just shifted in Aus (and Canada), it's moved to a different planet. Perhaps the next set of elections will determine whether it's you or I who live in the echo chamber, but if Andrews and Paluszczuk really are that popular, God help you.
Incidentally, funny to see the Aussie press always sabre rattling and trying to take the moral highground with regards to totalitarian China. I thought it was the Americans who didn't do irony?
I hold what would have been slightly left of centre views in Australia back then but the Overton window has not just shifted in Aus (and Canada), it's moved to a different planet. Perhaps the next set of elections will determine whether it's you or I who live in the echo chamber, but if Andrews and Paluszczuk really are that popular, God help you.
Incidentally, funny to see the Aussie press always sabre rattling and trying to take the moral highground with regards to totalitarian China. I thought it was the Americans who didn't do irony?
And yet the mainstream in Australia shake their heads at the idiotic sabre rattling against China.If you rely on the press to gauge Australian views you'll only get Rupert's views.
Not ours.
Economically, Australia is the "lucky country". Her main exports are iron ore and real estate deeds. If there's a significant fluctuation in the commodities markets or if working class Australians realize just how badly their dreams of home ownership are being hosed by tax policies that encourage real estate speculation...
Adrian wrote: "Boy, tough crowd. Hillary clearly has her issues but in comparison with Trump the sedition inciter and pussy grabber? Come on...This was my view at the time, worth reading if only for the respons..."
This is what she is.
Blizzard of Lies
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/01/08/op...
J, Wish I could have read the article, but it required a subscription.
Nik said, "Trump acted like a true friend of Israel and for that I'm grateful. I think all those who expected disaster, when he was elected, realized that nothing bad happened. As much as I'm left-leaning all my life, I have the feeling the left in some places has lost touch with reality."Well said, Nik.
Well, I saw on the news today that Hillary is thinking of running in 2024. She's already read her acceptance speech in tears, so she probably thinks it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You might have "all the dinosaurs" competition in a couple of years :)
Why can't the US have proper politicians?Ours are mostly crap in Australia but they don't divide the country and incite revolution. They just do a half arsed job and pay themselves a fortune.
Adrian, the US does have proper politicians. The reason they divide the country so much is because Americans have something about them. They have self-respect, morals, dignity and a love of liberty. They aren't a bunch of gormless automatons who like being treated as children.
Adrian wrote: "Why can't the US have proper politicians?Ours are mostly crap in Australia but they don't divide the country and incite revolution. They just do a half arsed job and pay themselves a fortune."
Do you have higher quality parasites? Or does your press hide them better?
Our press are mostly owned by Rupert so are little more than a marketing wing for the political right. What's left are so emasculated and under-funded that we are pretty much left in the dark and have hunt down our own information.If the press were genuinely independent it would be much harder for the parasites.
Adrian wrote: "Our press are mostly owned by Rupert so are little more than a marketing wing for the political right. What's left are so emasculated and under-funded that we are pretty much left in the dark and h..."It's difficult to split along political lines when you're only getting one side of the argument.
Adrian wrote: "Dear oh dear....OK..."
You walked into that one :-)
Adrian wrote: "Boy, tough crowd. Hillary clearly has her issues but in comparison with Trump the sedition inciter and pussy grabber? Come on...This was my view at the time, worth reading if only for the respons..."
You have no idea about Hillary and obviously hate Trump. While I am no fan, he was not a sedition inciter.
Adrian wrote: "Our press are mostly owned by Rupert so are little more than a marketing wing for the political right. What's left are so emasculated and under-funded that we are pretty much left in the dark and h..."You should try the American press.....
Ian wrote: "Adrian wrote: "Dear oh dear....OK..."
You walked into that one :-)"
Funny thing about us Americans, we love fighting among ourselves, but when someone from the outside wants to join....
As for Hillary, just remember those tears are from a Crocodile...
Apologies, Papaphilly, but I’d just like to say a few final words about American politics…
I used to think that if I was American, I’d be a Democrat. I no longer feel this way. I would like to publicly pay tribute to all American conservatives for their tireless work, over the last 6 years, upholding Western values against the forces of evil. You are the rock that we all rely on and the people who keep the Western world free. You have shown immense dignity and restraint when opposing those wicked frauds, who have hijacked the beautiful concepts of liberalism and progression for their own foul totalitarian ends.
I have to admit that during the day out at the Capitol, on 6th January, 2021, I was hoping that some of your female freedom fighters and truth seekers would find Nancy Pelosi and deal with her. I was wrong to think like this and unreservedly apologise. It was simply a moment of weakness on my behalf. Your peaceful protest showed how things should really be done by civilised people.
I’d like to pay a particular tribute to former President Donald ‘Orange Man’ Trump, who showed great fortitude by successfully implementing many of his excellent policies despite the appalling attempts to undermine him, and America as a whole, by the enemies of freedom.
President Trump, it’s now time to hand over the baton of righteousness to someone new. May I suggest Governor DeSantis or Senator Paul? Anyway, may you enjoy a very happy retirement on your many golf courses and indulge in as much pussy as any good conservative could wish for.
God Bless America.
I used to think that if I was American, I’d be a Democrat. I no longer feel this way. I would like to publicly pay tribute to all American conservatives for their tireless work, over the last 6 years, upholding Western values against the forces of evil. You are the rock that we all rely on and the people who keep the Western world free. You have shown immense dignity and restraint when opposing those wicked frauds, who have hijacked the beautiful concepts of liberalism and progression for their own foul totalitarian ends.
I have to admit that during the day out at the Capitol, on 6th January, 2021, I was hoping that some of your female freedom fighters and truth seekers would find Nancy Pelosi and deal with her. I was wrong to think like this and unreservedly apologise. It was simply a moment of weakness on my behalf. Your peaceful protest showed how things should really be done by civilised people.
I’d like to pay a particular tribute to former President Donald ‘Orange Man’ Trump, who showed great fortitude by successfully implementing many of his excellent policies despite the appalling attempts to undermine him, and America as a whole, by the enemies of freedom.
President Trump, it’s now time to hand over the baton of righteousness to someone new. May I suggest Governor DeSantis or Senator Paul? Anyway, may you enjoy a very happy retirement on your many golf courses and indulge in as much pussy as any good conservative could wish for.
God Bless America.
Adrian wrote: "Boy, tough crowd. Hillary clearly has her issues but in comparison with Trump the sedition inciter and pussy grabber? Come on...This was my view at the time, worth reading if only for the respons..."
Adrian, you wrote in your blog, "...the Hillary Clinton who represented: experience, intelligence, rational political rhetoric and the inclusion of women at the biggest table of all." This is a complete misunderstanding of what HRC is.
I could point out how her feminist cred is a laughable veneer applied to her husband's enabler. But I think that her foreign policy record is a stronger refutation to your position.
HRC was the singular advocate for intervention in Libya. It was on her recommendation that the US military helped to overthrow Qaddafi. Her judgement was so good that today there are slave markets in Libya. When she was told of Qaddafi's execution by sabre up his rectum this was the reaction of HRC, the staid diplomat:
https://youtu.be/6DXDU48RHLU
For all of his sins, Trump was the lesser of two evils.
This is, of course, a pointless discussion as I'm guessing neither of us are likely to change our positions in a hurry. As for Libya, it's not the overthrow of Gaddafi that is questionable, but how the aftermath was managed. There have been numerous similar incursions around the world (not only by the US and its allies - including Oz) and they so frequently amount to the same thing - years of pain followed by anarchy and the bad guys rising again like a hydra - even worse than they were before.
And to think Biden has been castigated in some quarters for pulling out of Afghanistan. Yes it's painful but not to do so is to fail to learn the lessons of history. (And none of that is any reflection on the valour of those who serve.)
Are you trying to tell me that Hillary was any more bloodthirsty than any number of politico/military male commanders in the past? The reality is that their gung-ho attitude is not even up for debate. No-one cares. But why do they care about Hillary?
Could it be that that she's a female in a very male occupation?
The thing that most amazes me (I've been on quite a lot of American cruises) is that it is the women who most support Trump and most detest Hillary. Wow.
By the way Beau, excellent pisstake in message 44. You had me going for a while.
Adrian, my post wasn’t quite as cute as you think because although it was light-hearted, it wasn’t a complete mickey-take. I am genuinely grateful to American conservatives right now because if the US goes the full ‘Canada’ then the rest of us will probably follow.
The Democrats, like the Canadians, are currently under the spell of ‘Progressives’, who aren’t really progressive; they’re regressive. Their warped philosophy is an evil, cult-like movement, which seeks to rewrite history and subvert reality, acting against the interests of everybody it claims to represent. It serves the global ‘elite’ alone, while seeking to crush the life out of everybody else. It uses people who think they are doing the right thing as useful fools.
In my opinion, politicians (and other influential people) who constantly bleat about injustices (especially sexism and racism) are often those with unpalatable views of their own to hide. To paraphrase the old saying, their words always speak a lot louder than their actions. In the UK, it is the Conservatives who have given us 2 female PMs and a current Cabinet that is probably more racially diverse than Britain itself. Meanwhile, every single Labour leader has been a white male who has accused the Conservatives of being misogynistic racists. Work that one out.
Hilary Clinton, just like Pelosi and Harris, should not get an easy ride just because of their gender. They are reviled by large sections of the population because of their ‘progressive’ (read regressive) mindsets, and are dismissed as politicians because they are simply not up to the job. I don’t know enough about American history to be certain, but I’d be surprised if there has ever been a more war-hungry US politician than Hilary Clinton.
On Donald Trump, in all honesty, I’m with J. I’m not a big fan but he was the lesser of 2 evils. Yes, he’s uncouth; yes, he’s not exactly ‘presidential’ material; but he did appear to successfully implement most of his policies (despite hysterical opposition from the Dems) and he’s not the monster some paint him out to be. Allegedly, he said a few silly things but I don’t believe for a second that he is really a misogynist or a racist. Also, I think I’m right in saying that he enjoyed more female and non-white support than any past Republican president.
The overall impression I got, from a few thousand miles away, was that the Dems spent 4 years behaving like a bunch of spoilt cry-babies, throwing whatever mud they could at Trump in the hope that some of it would stick. Their behaviour was far more cringeworthy than anything said or done by the Orange Man.
On Libya, the overthrow of Gaddafi was questionable, to say the least, because he had long since ceased to be any kind of threat and it was in the West’s interests that he remained – like Saddam, as a counterweight to Islamic extremism and other dangerous threats in the region. Using a sledgehammer to crack a nut in the hope of getting rid of the ‘bad guys’ is schoolboy politics. Our foreign policy should always be determined by our own self-interests and the well-being of the ordinary citizens of the other country concerned. Getting rid of Gaddafi was a bad move by both of these measurements.
Regarding Biden and Afghanistan, it ain’t what he did, it was the way that he did it. His ill-thought-out actions have unquestionably weakened the West, emboldened hostile nations, and made the world a more dangerous place.
The Democrats, like the Canadians, are currently under the spell of ‘Progressives’, who aren’t really progressive; they’re regressive. Their warped philosophy is an evil, cult-like movement, which seeks to rewrite history and subvert reality, acting against the interests of everybody it claims to represent. It serves the global ‘elite’ alone, while seeking to crush the life out of everybody else. It uses people who think they are doing the right thing as useful fools.
In my opinion, politicians (and other influential people) who constantly bleat about injustices (especially sexism and racism) are often those with unpalatable views of their own to hide. To paraphrase the old saying, their words always speak a lot louder than their actions. In the UK, it is the Conservatives who have given us 2 female PMs and a current Cabinet that is probably more racially diverse than Britain itself. Meanwhile, every single Labour leader has been a white male who has accused the Conservatives of being misogynistic racists. Work that one out.
Hilary Clinton, just like Pelosi and Harris, should not get an easy ride just because of their gender. They are reviled by large sections of the population because of their ‘progressive’ (read regressive) mindsets, and are dismissed as politicians because they are simply not up to the job. I don’t know enough about American history to be certain, but I’d be surprised if there has ever been a more war-hungry US politician than Hilary Clinton.
On Donald Trump, in all honesty, I’m with J. I’m not a big fan but he was the lesser of 2 evils. Yes, he’s uncouth; yes, he’s not exactly ‘presidential’ material; but he did appear to successfully implement most of his policies (despite hysterical opposition from the Dems) and he’s not the monster some paint him out to be. Allegedly, he said a few silly things but I don’t believe for a second that he is really a misogynist or a racist. Also, I think I’m right in saying that he enjoyed more female and non-white support than any past Republican president.
The overall impression I got, from a few thousand miles away, was that the Dems spent 4 years behaving like a bunch of spoilt cry-babies, throwing whatever mud they could at Trump in the hope that some of it would stick. Their behaviour was far more cringeworthy than anything said or done by the Orange Man.
On Libya, the overthrow of Gaddafi was questionable, to say the least, because he had long since ceased to be any kind of threat and it was in the West’s interests that he remained – like Saddam, as a counterweight to Islamic extremism and other dangerous threats in the region. Using a sledgehammer to crack a nut in the hope of getting rid of the ‘bad guys’ is schoolboy politics. Our foreign policy should always be determined by our own self-interests and the well-being of the ordinary citizens of the other country concerned. Getting rid of Gaddafi was a bad move by both of these measurements.
Regarding Biden and Afghanistan, it ain’t what he did, it was the way that he did it. His ill-thought-out actions have unquestionably weakened the West, emboldened hostile nations, and made the world a more dangerous place.
Adrian wrote: "This is, of course, a pointless discussion as I'm guessing neither of us are likely to change our positions in a hurry. As for Libya, it's not the overthrow of Gaddafi that is questionable, but h..."
Perhaps you could list her accomplishments. Name the people for whom she fought. Or even lay out the moments when her character was tested and she rose to the challenge.
As for it being "a man's world", please explain Tulsi Gabbard.
J. wrote: "Perhaps you could list her accomplishments. Name the people for whom she fought. Or even lay out the moments when her character was tested and she rose to the challenge.."
Perhaps you could list the number of times you've asked the same question about a male politician?
In 2020, I asked those questions about Joe Biden. The answers made me despise him.In 2016, I asked those questions about Donald Trump and Gary Johnson. I voted for Gary Johnson.
In 2012, I asked those questions about Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. I voted drunk.
The first time that I asked those questions was in 1996. Then I asked them about Bill Clinton and Bob Dole. I voted for Dole.
Obviously, she's never gotten over her loss to Trump and feels sorry for herself, and now she's sharing the speech she never got to give. Boo hoo. She was robbed, etc. She's been abandoned by her party and thinks this will get her back in the game.
Does this make her look like a sympathetic character or like a pathetic loser who's once more trying to put one over on the American public? You can tell what I think. What do you think? Is this speech a good move or stupid move on her part?