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message 101: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
Hello D and J'ers I need some information. I just finished a book and am having a hard time deciding what to read next. I've narrowed it down to a reread of The Name of the Wind or to start Peter V. Brett's Demon Cycle series. It's the end of the year so I can't decide if I want to start yet another series (beginning with The Warded Man) or a reread one I vastly enjoyed and start fresh in the new year.

If you have read The Warded Man let me know if I should say screw it and dive In or do a year end comfort read and start it in January instead!


message 102: by Wayland, Ernest Scribbler (new)

Wayland Smith | 3571 comments Mod
Name of the Wind was great, but I found the follow up a bit disappointing.

I'm really enjoying the Demon Cycle. I'd suggest that.


message 103: by Rinn, (Retired mod) Captain of the SSV Normandy (new)

Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
I LOVED both books so erm... I'm a bit useless. I'll try and be helpful and say The Warded Man, such a great one :)


message 104: by Lel (new)

Lel (lelspear) | 2433 comments Mod
I would say go with the new ones.


message 105: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Wayland wrote: "Name of the Wind was great, but I found the follow up a bit disappointing.

I'm really enjoying the Demon Cycle. I'd suggest that."


I liked it but got really annoyed with the completely unnecessary rapes in the book. I am not someone that thinks rapes have no place in books but they were pointless in this book. They did not add to the plot or character development and seemed to just be thrown in.


message 106: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
Well, I was going to start The Demon Cycle but last night I made the mistake of pulling The name of the wind off my shelf to just peek at. ended up reading the first chapters and now I'm hooked again.


message 107: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
Trapped


message 108: by Freya, Dragon Rider (new)

Freya (flamecat) | 1835 comments Mod
My fellow D&Jers - I have a quest!

A colleague of mine is leaving for pastures new on the 9th March and has never read Sci-Fi or Fantasy before. We were having a chat about the sci fi genre today and she feels somewhat inspired to try to read some now.

She has asked me where would be a good place to start. She probably doesn't have a lot of time to read and she needs something which will grab her attention, so much as I would like to recommend something like 'Red Mars', it might need to be a bit lighter in tone (not too many high-brow scientific concepts).

I am hoping to give her a list of a few authors / series with a sentence to say what they are about on Monday that she can then check out. But when put on the spot I couldn't give her one starting place for someone new to Sci-fi. So I turn to the wisdom of this lovely group - what sci-fi would you recommend? :)


message 109: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
For me I think Hugh Howeys Wool is a great one to grab her quickly. The start was originally a short story which pretty much went viral. And the story and characters are very accessible


message 110: by Shawnie (new)

Shawnie | 3292 comments Mod
For SciFi, I recommend Ann Aguirre's Sirantha Jax series starting with Grimspace. It's not too technical and has great character relationship building.


message 111: by Jim (new)

Jim Mcclanahan (clovis-man) Freya wrote: "My fellow D&Jers - I have a quest!

A colleague of mine is leaving for pastures new on the 9th March and has never read Sci-Fi or Fantasy before. We were having a chat about the sci fi genre today ..."


A personal favorite that might be a good introduction with elements of space opera and good character development by C. J. Cherryh:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

A fairly quick read in contrast to many current ponderous tomes. However, if so inclined, your friend might opt for the entire trilogy in one volume:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...


message 112: by Shawnie (new)

Shawnie | 3292 comments Mod
Great recommendations! I really want to read C.J. Cherryh this year. :) And, Wool has been sitting on my RL shelf for over a year now, unread, for shame.


message 113: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I totally agree with Wool and would also day may Pierce Brown's Red Rising series that we all seem to have really enjoyed.


message 114: by Melanie (new)

Melanie | 1699 comments Honestly, I recommend The Hobbit as an ideal introduction. It's amazingly written, not at all intimidating, and episodic (which allows it to be easily read in pieces).

Ray Bradbury short stories would make a good sci-fi introduction because you can pick and choose.


message 115: by Jim (new)

Jim Mcclanahan (clovis-man) Melanie wrote: "Honestly, I recommend The Hobbit as an ideal introduction. It's amazingly written, not at all intimidating, and episodic (which allows it to be easily read in pieces)."

I think the request was for SF books. But Bradbury might still be a good suggestion, e.g., The Martian Chronicles or The Illustrated Man.


message 116: by Nick (new)

Nick | 110 comments Hmmm, what sort of sci-fi do you picture them enjoying?

Space opera?
Leviathan Wakes, Revelation Space, The Reality Dysfunction

These might be a bit heavy going to start with though, the sci-fi equivilant of big doorstop epic fantasies, so something lighter, more adventure-like...

A Talent for War: Archeologically minded antiquities dealers, travelling the galaxy and solving long hidden mysteries. Light enough to read, with some surprisingly deep ideas mixed in.

Diving into the Wreck: Follows a professional zero-g wreck diver and her team, unravelling the dangerous mysteries of an ancient wrecked ship.

Stardoc: Space doctor with a strange past, trying to make a life for herself. Very interesting series that took what I thought was an unfortunate turn four or five books in.

For Love of Mother-Not: Almost-pulpish space adventure, in this first novel the young hero meets his soon-to-be-lifelong companion, the flying alien dragon thing Flinx, and hi-jinx ensue.

Mindstar Rising: An ex-member of the psychic special forces gets drawn into an investigation.

If your friend likes crime stories however, one of the best ways I know of to add a little sci-fi to the diet is a series that is beloved even by people who otherwise never touch sci-fi. The in death series: Naked in Death.

This is a great police procedural series in near-future new york city, the series itself has more than 40 books in it now, and though in my opinion it doesn't really hit it's stride until the third or fourth book they are great reads all the same. The audiobooks have excellent narration too, if that matters :)


message 117: by Rinn, (Retired mod) Captain of the SSV Normandy (new)

Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is pretty short, and also amazing :D


message 118: by Lel (new)

Lel (lelspear) | 2433 comments Mod
I only started reading sci-fi since joining this group. So for a newbe recommendation I loved A Scanner Darkly, Old Man's War andLock In


message 119: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
Great recomendations Lel. Its too easy to recommend new readers your own favourites instead of a book thats accessible to a rookie. Definitely think those would work. I passed Old Mans War to a sci fi virgin Few weeks back. I'll be curious to see what they think


message 120: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
How about The Martian or Lock In? Two short reads that are good (just saw now that Lel recommended Lock In but I'll leave it since it's good to know more than one person suggest it)


message 121: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I was Going to mention The Reality Dysfunction because I enjoyed it a lot but decided bit to because as a first dive into sci fi it's a bit much.


message 122: by Lel (new)

Lel (lelspear) | 2433 comments Mod
It's definitely a genre to take baby steps in, Red Mars was way to sci-fi and political for me. And ilium was hard to stay with although the end was much better.


message 123: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
I have Lock In on my shelf since Christmas. I'll read Redshirts first but then Lock In.


message 124: by Shawnie (new)

Shawnie | 3292 comments Mod
Lock In was my first Scalzi book and I loved it, another great D&J botm.


message 125: by Freya, Dragon Rider (new)

Freya (flamecat) | 1835 comments Mod
Thank you everyone! This has been a real help :)

I'll compile the list for her tomorrow and hopefully she'll find something in it to grab her attention!


message 126: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments Wool is great.DUNE.


message 127: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Wool is great.DUNE."

While I definitely like Dune, I wouldn't say that it's a good stepping stone or a light introduction to anything...


message 128: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Robilotta | 32 comments For those readers wo like fantasy with a slightly crude sense of humor, I recommend Critical Failures by Robert Bevan. It was seriously laugh out loud funny.


message 129: by Anthony (new)

Anthony Robilotta | 32 comments The Martian is another good starting point.


message 130: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments Roger wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Wool is great.DUNE."

While I definitely like Dune, I wouldn't say that it's a good stepping stone or a light introduction to anything..."


Agreed.Its just my favorite.


message 131: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Jeff wrote: "Roger wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Wool is great.DUNE."

While I definitely like Dune, I wouldn't say that it's a good stepping stone or a light introduction to anything..."

Agreed.Its just my favorite."


I'm curious about your opinion on the rest of the series, including the stuff written by his son. I like most of it, the stuff written by his son is obviously nowhere near the quality of the originals but if the stories were what his father planned then I'm glad I got the extra and find out what happens. If they are just stuff that was made up then I'm not happy with it.


message 132: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments Roger wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Roger wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Wool is great.DUNE."

While I definitely like Dune, I wouldn't say that it's a good stepping stone or a light introduction to anything..."

Agreed.Its just m..."

I enjoyed all of the original Dune series by Frank.The first 3 the best,but I liked them all enough for a couple rereads all the way up to chapterhouse.I also enjoyed the stuff done by his son.You are right,they are not as good.I liked them anyway.I have read all of those as well,except for the two latest.I will get to those.

There are many who are critical of his sons work,but I find the worst thing I can say about it is that it isnt quite as good as his fathers.I think The original series is one of the greatest works of speculative fiction in the 20th century,so its hard for anyone to NOT fall short of that.


message 133: by Gary (new)

Gary Sundell | 178 comments I see people discussing space opera in previous messages. That discussion could well start with the authors who more or less created the genre, E.E. "Doc" Smith with his Skylark series and the Lensmen series and Edmond Hamilton, who wrote among other things the Captain Future series. Hamilton was married to Leigh Brackett who was not only a skilled fantasy and SF author in her own right, but was one heck of a screen writer. She wrote Rio Bravo the classic John Wayne movie. Her last credit as I recall was a little movie with a score by John Williams, The Empire Strikes Back.


message 134: by Jim (new)

Jim Mcclanahan (clovis-man) Gary wrote: "Hamilton was married to Leigh Brackett who was not only a skilled fantasy and SF author in her own right, but was one heck of a screen writer. She wrote Rio Bravo the classic John Wayne movie. Her last credit as I recall was a little movie with a score by John Williams, The Empire Strikes Back."

Not to mention the Bogart/Bacall classic, The Big Sleep (along with William Faulkner).


message 135: by Gary (last edited Mar 23, 2016 11:54AM) (new)

Gary Sundell | 178 comments Jim wrote: "Gary wrote: "Hamilton was married to Leigh Brackett who was not only a skilled fantasy and SF author in her own right, but was one heck of a screen writer. She wrote Rio Bravo the classic John Wayn..."

And El Dorado and Rio Lobo and yes Lawrence Kasdan co-wrote the screenplay for Empire Strikes Back.


message 136: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
What's this Empire Strikes back toy speak of, never heard of it.


message 137: by Gary (last edited Mar 23, 2016 02:03PM) (new)

Gary Sundell | 178 comments Lancer wrote: "What's this Empire Strikes back toy speak of, never heard of it."
Some obscue movie no one ever saw. :) It is still the best of the first 6 movies. I attribute that to Leigh Brackett's input on the script.


message 138: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I've always been partial to A New Hope but I know that's just a nostalgia thing


message 139: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I've seen the original 3 50+ times and agree it's the strongest but new hope still my favourite


message 140: by Lafayette (new)

Lafayette | 26 comments Hi all, I have the video game The witcher 3 (not played yet) and access to a few books written by Sapkowski, as the last wish or blood of elves.

In your opinion, should I play the game or read the books first, and which one ?

Thks for your advices.


message 141: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I've never read the books but have played the games and never felt like I've been missing information. If you haven't played witcher 1 and 2 I would recommend reading it summaries for them before beginning 3 or yoy may feel a bit lost. Amazing game though, definitely a great of the year contender for 2015 for me.


message 142: by Cupcakes & Machetes, Hybrid Creature (new)

Cupcakes & Machetes (hybridcreature) | 888 comments Mod
Lafayette wrote: "Hi all, I have the video game The witcher 3 (not played yet) and access to a few books written by Sapkowski, as the last wish or blood of elves.

In your opinion, should I play the game or read the..."


I have read the first book but have not played the game. To me, the book read a lot like a video game. I would imagine that it doesn't really matter. Each chapter read like a separate quest/adventure so I don't think it would spoil it either way.


message 143: by Jim (new)

Jim Mcclanahan (clovis-man) Hybrid Creature (devours books instead of brains) wrote: I have read the first book but have not played the game. To me, the book read a lot like a video game. I would imagine that it doesn't really matter. Each chapter read like a separate quest/adventure so I don't think it would spoil it either way.
"

I had a similar impression of the first novel. Frankly, I didn't really care for it: too formulaic. The game was the main goal all along, so go for it.


message 144: by Rinn, (Retired mod) Captain of the SSV Normandy (new)

Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
I don't think it really matters, there are plenty of gamers out there who haven't touched the books.

I am stuck on Witcher 2 :(


message 145: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
Rinn even if your stuck on 2 and feel like your in a run I would recommend playing 3. It is by far better than 2 and 2 was a great game. 3 though... Just wow


message 146: by Lafayette (new)

Lafayette | 26 comments Lancer wrote: " If you haven't played witcher 1 and 2 I would recommend reading it summaries for them before b..."

Ok, I will do that. Thanks for comments.


message 147: by Rinn, (Retired mod) Captain of the SSV Normandy (new)

Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
Yeah, I'm planning on buying it when it goes on sale :)


message 148: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
I loved The Witcher 3, I might play it again soon.


message 149: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
So the wife and I have been watching The Musketeers from the BBC on Netflix and very much enjoying it. It had peaked my interest in the time period which has in turn had be get the free ebooks for The Three Musketeers, and The Count of Monte Cristo.

I'm just wondering if anyone has read either of them and of so of they had anything to say about them.


message 150: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
I loved the Count of Monte Christo when I read it. Such a well structured and paced story. The revenge plot is up there with the best.
Three Muskateers I enjoyed as well but its been a while. Dumas writes the political side really well and the fights are quite good.


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