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🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments We play Wordle each day, have a competition going with my husband sister . Who gets it first. We won today got it in 3.
Keep a our minds active.

We have lots of different dialects spoken. A town only 6 to 8 miles away. Sounds different. Most people can tell when you speak, where you come from. Greatest Manchester alone , has about 10 different dialects .


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HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3939 comments Mod
HBW---

Be grateful you speak it the right way. LOL!

Southern is the only dialect Meryl Streep could not master for a movie. ( I realize there are many dialects in the South) IIRC The Seduction of Joe Tynan. Orson Wells mumbled Southern for The Long, Hot Summer, & ruined part of a v good movie. He had a beef w/ the producer? Many actors in No. & South (civil war TV mov) twisted their Southern accents to be unrecognizable. Dallas TV show had some who needed a dialect coach.

I could give more examples?


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Cath | 953 comments I grew up in the South. One day a fellow student who grew up in the same little town I did came up to me, and this is what I thought he asked: "Have you got a new clock and bar?"

I thought - what an odd question.

Then I realized what he had asked was: "Have you got a nickel I can borrow?"


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments That's good Cath.


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OLT | 2480 comments I met my Peruvian husband who was new to English at university. He was puzzled when one of his American friends asked him a question that he heard as "Jeet jet?" Turns out all they wanted to know was "did you eat yet."


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Cath | 953 comments ^LOL

My step-grandmother from South Carolina would pat the couch cushion and tell us grandkids to come sit "ratcheeya" beside her.

(right here)


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments 🐝 Shaz 🐝 wrote: "We play Wordle each day, have a competition going with my husband sister . Who gets it first. We won today got it in 3.
Keep a our minds active.

We have lots of different dialects spoken. A town..."


Wow, that's a lot of dialects. I love playing Wordle. There are a couple of variations but I'm happy with the original.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Cath wrote: "^LOL

My step-grandmother from South Carolina would pat the couch cushion and tell us grandkids to come sit "ratcheeya" beside her.

(right here)"


Cath and OLT, your stories remind me of my grandmother, who was born in 1894. She said 'arry' instead of 'any'. Most people I know say 'didja' and between friends and family, 'rachtere'.


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Cath | 953 comments HBW - I would never guess that "arry" would mean "any" - very interesting!

And now that I think about it, I use the "-ja" contraction all the time - as in, "wherdja go" "whydja do that" "whenja buy that" (not to mention all the other verbal "shortcuts" I use). I'm sure I'd be a nightmare for a non-English speaker to deal with! LOL


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My late Mom, from Louisiana, always said "Ya'll go to bed now."
She first taught us about Ms used before a name. Even before
Ms Magazine came out.

Mom was petite, Southern and a Navy vet. Dad was v. tall, from PA. & an Army vet.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "My late Mom, from Louisiana, always said "Ya'll go to bed now."
She first taught us about Ms used before a name. Even before
Ms Magazine came out.

Mom was petite, Southern and a Navy vet. Dad w..."


Your parents sound great. I bet you didn't get away with much.


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Carol | 2793 comments The Enchanted Garden Cafe by the author of Love, Chocolate, and a Dog Named Al Capone is free on Kindle right now. I haven't read it.


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HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3939 comments Mod
HBW---

My parents were very strict, mostly good for the 4 of us kids.

Before they married Dad and Mom were at separate boarding
homes in Mom's home state. Dad had supper at Mom's b/c his
bh did not provide this. One day he walked in a ditch, & fell &
she sought help for him. He called her "coco."


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "HBW---

My parents were very strict, mostly good for the 4 of us kids.

Before they married Dad and Mom were at separate boarding
homes in Mom's home state. Dad had supper at Mom's b/c his
bh did..."


That is a sweet story. ETA it's amazing how different courtships and the way people met then is from today.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments My husband has been trying to get me to go with him on a bike ride on the canal for a while. I agreed today as I wanted to get a few items from the shop for tea.
Made it there and back without falling off😂. But I do have a sore bottom now 😭😂😂

I don’t know if he is trying to get me fit, 🚴‍♀️ or put me in the hospital 😂😂😂


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Shaz----

You made it! Years ago spouse & I went on a popular bike trail.
Some fellow bikers were so aggressive! So much for enjoying
nature. The bike trail closer to home: more laid back.


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments That's great Shaz. My husband, since he retired is walking daily. I go with him when it's not too hot/humid in the summer or too cold/windy in the winter. But, usually, he can get me out walking.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Once I get to retire and have my knee replacements, I will enjoy walking. My right knee and left knee are in competition to see which one will act up that day. I now keep a walking stick in the car. I can be relatively fine when I leave the house, and when I get out of the car, I'm back to a hobble.


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HBW---

Knees are great when in working order.

I need bi-lateral knee replacements, and a new right hip.
Ortho said I need to lose more weight- easy for him to say.
Turmeric supposed to be good- didn't work for me.
Chiro gave me large caps of castor oil - didn't work.

Do any herbs or OTC remedies help the pain for you?


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Carol wrote: "The Enchanted Garden Cafe by the author of Love, Chocolate, and a Dog Named Al Capone is free on Kindle right now. I haven't read it."

I want to recommend this book that Carol posted about. I read it soon after it came out and was so impressed I wrote a review about it, and I wasn't writing a lot of reviews at the time. Of course, I can't be sure if I re-read it now, that I would still enjoy it. I remember that it had a magical quality about it. It's free in the US.

The Enchanted Garden CafeAfterparties: StoriesAfterparties: Stories


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Here's another recommendation. I read this when it first came out and have never forgotten it. After I finished it, I went to see what else the author had written, and discovered that he had died. He was 28, and this was his only book. It is on sale for 1.99.

Afterparties: Stories

INSTANT NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER

WINNER OF THE NATIONAL BOOK CRITICS CIRCLE’S JOHN LEONARD PRIZE FOR BEST FIRST BOOK

WINNER OF THE FERRO-GRUMLEY AWARD FOR LGBTQ FICTION

Named a Best Book of the Year by: New York Times * NPR * Washington Post * LA Times * Kirkus Reviews * New York Public Library * Chicago Public Library * Harper’s Bazaar * TIME * Maureen Corrigan, Fresh Air * Boston Globe* The Atlantic

A vibrant story collection about Cambodian-American life—immersive and comic, yet unsparing—that offers profound insight into the intimacy of queer and immigrant communities


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Cath | 953 comments 🐝 Shaz 🐝 wrote: "...I don’t know if he is trying to get me fit ...or put me in the hospital..."

This makes me smile. He sounds like a sweet husband!


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments I wouldn’t do without him. He always makes me laugh. Even when I have been annoyed with him I end up laughing. Not bad after 48 years of marriage.
So definitely a keeper .


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments 🐝 Shaz 🐝 wrote: "I wouldn’t do without him. He always makes me laugh. Even when I have been annoyed with him I end up laughing. Not bad after 48 years of marriage.
So definitely a keeper ."


Aw, that is wonderful.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "HBW---

Knees are great when in working order.

I need bi-lateral knee replacements, and a new right hip.
Ortho said I need to lose more weight- easy for him to say.
Turmeric supposed to be good..."


HR-ML, I have heard that turmeric is good for arthritis, etc, but I have never tried it. I take two ibuprofen before I go to bed at night. I think it helps the inflammation better taking it at night because I am not stressing the joints. My knees and my right shoulder and elbow are my painful joints. The shoulder and elbow are from two falls.

There are some exercises you can do when sitting in a chair, and I need to start doing those.


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Carol | 2793 comments I tried it for my RA. It seemed to work, but within a few days I had terrible diarrhea. RA is an autoimmune disease, which is different from OA, so I can't speak to its effect on OA. If you decide to try it, get a small bottle and see how your digestive system reacts to it.


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OLT | 2480 comments Has anyone tried capsaicin for arthritis? From hot peppers, it is available in creams and I think in some oral forms.
https://www.versusarthritis.org/about...


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Carol | 2793 comments OLT wrote: "Has anyone tried capsaicin for arthritis? From hot peppers, it is available in creams and I think in some oral forms.
https://www.versusarthritis.org/about......"


I tried the cream, It does work. It appears to stimulate the pain nerve in the skin and eventually your pain nerves stop firing. It did work for me some. Like the pepper, if you get it near tender tissue, you are in trouble. I used Salonpas patches and that worked some. I find timed-released Tylonol best and when I'm really hurting, I add one Advil.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Bookwise, I am listening to Jane Eyre on my 30 minute commute morning and evening. Enjoying it very much.

I just finished another book by Shelly Laurenston. It was another badger book with a lot of slapstick. I liked it.


message 2530: by Cath (last edited Sep 19, 2023 04:13AM) (new)

Cath | 953 comments Jane is one of my favorite heroines!

I'd like to get back to reading more HR but I've been too anxious to be able to really relax and enjoy it (between caregiving for my elderly parent with dementia and dealing with the fact that one of our two political parties has turned into an authoritarian party hell-bent on winning at any cost, which leads me to wonder what kind of country I'll be living in within the next few years...) -- oh well.

Oddly enough I think I could read more horror AND watch horror movies (maybe b/c my brain is already anxious, so what's a little more?).

I think also space opera sci-fi might suit me (read my first space opera - Ancillary Justice by Anne Leckie --- LOVED it!). I might try to tackle Dune soon. Though I don't know if that's technically a space opera? But I don't care.

And finally a certain type of humor helps me (currently enjoying Richard Osman's Thursday Murder Club series) - but humor is very tricky b/c what works for some people doesn't necessarily work for others.


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of Hill House, Cath, but it is riveting.

I have been thinking of reading more mysteries, because at least, if they are good, I can concentrate on who done it, instead of why the cult exists for the orange monster.


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments I too tried turmeric for my arthritis pain, but it upset my stomach.


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments Cath, I am sorry you are dealing with the stress of an elderly parent with dementia. A friend of mine has her mom living with her; she is still mentally acute, but has many physical issues and recently fell and broke her patella. My friend is so stressed out and often depressed. It is not easy.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Roberta2 wrote: "I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of Hill House, Cath..."


Roberta2, I'll never forget these words: "And whatever walks there, walks alone." Still gives me shivers.

Roberta2, in my opinion, the cult is the reason for Trump's followers. Who knows how these things come to be? Think about Beatlemania. About the Manson family and his followers. About the people who suicided thinking they were going to hitch a ride on an asteroid. There isn't really a rational explanation for why Trump has all these people who support him. Whereas Joe Biden is a decent man and his detractors have to dig really deep to find anything to criticize about him or his wife personally. So they bring up his youngest son's troubles, like a father can control what an adult son does.


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Carol | 2793 comments HappyBookWorm2020 wrote: "Roberta2 wrote: "I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of..."


The GOP attacks and it doesn't matter if it's true or not: John Kerry and the fake swift boat incident. Hillary and too many to list, now Biden helped Hunter and is one step away from death. If it gets repeated enough, it appears to take hold, esp. if you don't hear the anything to the contrary.


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Cath | 953 comments Roberta2 wrote: "Cath, I am sorry you are dealing with the stress of an elderly parent with dementia..."

Thanks, Roberta2. It is a process, that's for sure. For my part, it is very up and down, in terms of how it affects my mood and mental health. The struggle has been compounded by the fact that, b/c we live in a small town in a rural county, resources, like geriatricians, geriatric social workers and in-person support groups for family, are not available.

I am considering joining a virtual support group - but in-person would be so much better for me.

I have found 2 books that have been especially helpful:
1. Thoughtful Dementia Care: Understanding the Dementia Experience by Jennifer Ghent-Fuller -- which gives me a better understanding of what is going on in the dementia brain

2. And my favorite, which is very helpful in understanding what is going on in MY brain as I struggle to cope with my emotions and reactions: Travelers to Unimaginable Lands: Stories of Dementia, the Caregiver, and the Human Brain by Dasha Kiper. I read this a few months ago, and just finished a second reading (which was even more helpful, now that things have progressed) and expect I will continue to re-read it.


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Cath | 953 comments Roberta2 wrote: "I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of Hill House, Cath..."


Oh good to hear, that's another reason for me to bump Dune up in my TBR list now. Also I was intrigued by the movie/TV version but wanted to read the book first, so that as well.

And yes, I found Haunting of Hill House (Netflix) to be so absorbing I kept pressing "next episode" "next episode" "next episode." I couldn't stop myself. Scary and creepy. Maybe it's time for a re-watch!


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Cath wrote: "Roberta2 wrote: "I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of..."


I either read or saw the original. Will never forget these lines: "... and whatever walks there, walks alone." Creepy! Note: just looked at the beginning of the book and I read it years ago. May have to do that again, after I retire. If I have the nerve.


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OLT | 2480 comments I found two books today at bargain price that may interest some of you. One is an old Sarah Eden book that was one of the best in that particular series: Seeking Persephone. The other is the sequel (more or less) to The Murder of Mr. Wickham: The Late Mrs. Willoughby.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments OLT wrote: "I found two books today at bargain price that may interest some of you. One is an old Sarah Eden book that was one of the best in that particular series: Seeking Persephone. The oth..."

Those look good - I already had Seeking Persephone, and sent it to my ereader. I got the sequel to The Murder of Mr. Wickham - I already had the first one.

I don't have enough reading time. :( And work is a mess.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments I loved this book so much. It's on Kindle Unlimited, and the ebook in the US is 4.99. The book is set in the 1960's. The family is Jewish, and Ada is a renowned matchmaker.

In 1960, a young woman discovers a freedom she never knew existed in this exhilarating, funny, and emotional novel by the bestselling author of She’s Up to No Good . When Marilyn Kleinman is caught making out with the rabbi’s son in front of the whole congregation, her parents ship her off to her great-aunt Ada for the summer. If anyone can save their daughter’s reputation, it’s Philadelphia’s strict premier matchmaker. Either that or Marilyn can kiss college goodbye. To Marilyn’s surprise, Ada’s not the humorless septuagenarian her mother described. Not with that platinum-blonde hair, Hermès scarf, and Cadillac convertible. She’s sharp, straight-talking, takes her job very seriously, and abides by her own rules…mostly. As the summer unfolds, Ada and Marilyn head for the Jersey shore, where Marilyn helps Ada scope out eligible matches—for anyone but Marilyn, that is. Because if there’s one thing Marilyn’s learned from Ada, it’s that she doesn’t have to settle. With the school year quickly approaching and her father threatening to disinherit her, Marilyn must make her choice for her future: return to the comfortable life she knows, or embrace a risky, unknown path on her own.


Don’t Forget to Write


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OLT | 2480 comments I second HBW's recommendation of that book by Sara Goodman Confino. I also recommend She's Up to No Good and For the Love of Friends by the same author. The last one I mentioned is, I think, her debut and, although a good read, it's perhaps not quite as good as the other two.


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Carol | 2793 comments OLT wrote: "I second HBW's recommendation of that book by Sara Goodman Confino. I also recommend She's Up to No Good and For the Love of Friends by the same author. The last one..."

I read and really enjoyed Don’t Forget to Write, so I downloaded Up to No Good. My goodness, another loud and eccentric grandmother. Maybe I'll revisit it at another time.


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OLT | 2480 comments Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "I second HBW's recommendation of that book by Sara Goodman Confino. I also recommend She's Up to No Good and For the Love of Friends by the same author. ..."

Agreed. Those two need some lime sorbet or time in between. The other book of hers I mentioned doesn't focus on eccentric old ladies.


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Roberta2 | 2383 comments Does Sarah Eden get preachy in her books? As I get older, I get more anti-religion.


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OLT | 2480 comments Roberta2 wrote: "Does Sarah Eden get preachy in her books? As I get older, I get more anti-religion."

She's not as preachy as a lot of the other Mormon/Christian romance authors. Just, for me, she's too bland and vanilla.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments OLT wrote: "I second HBW's recommendation of that book by Sara Goodman Confino. I also recommend She's Up to No Good and For the Love of Friends by the same author. The last one..."

OLT and Carol, I had bought She's Up to No Good last year and just sent it to my kindle to read. One thing I I loved in her Don't Forget to Write book were all the surprises at the end of the book.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Cath wrote: "Roberta2 wrote: "I read Dune years ago. I remember I couldn't put it down. I really like the new movie adaptation, at least the part one I have seen.

I don't know if you have seen The Haunting of..."


I am looking back at older emails, don't know if I mentioned this, but I believe I read all of the Dune books in paperback when they came out. It's remarkable.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments OLT wrote: "Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "I second HBW's recommendation of that book by Sara Goodman Confino. I also recommend She's Up to No Good and For the Love of Friends by the..."

OLT and Carol, I still identify in my mind with the young girl, but I'm a lot closer in age to the grandmother. Weird how your body gets old but how you think of yourself doesn't,.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Two more book recommendations, apologies if I've already posted them.

Jane and the Year Without a Summer 1.99 kindle book in the US

Humankind: A Hopeful History 1.99 kindle in the US

I got the Humankind book as a tonic against our toxic politics. I could use some encouragement to see the good in people. Of course, what he writes about in the beginning could equally leave to people forming a group where they all believe in a bunch of lies and follow the same leader. Manson comes to mind. Trump. I could still use some encouragement.

Blurb:

If there is one belief that has united the left and the right, psychologists and philosophers, ancient thinkers and modern ones, it is the tacit assumption that humans are bad. It's a notion that drives newspaper headlines and guides the laws that shape our lives. From Machiavelli to Hobbes, Freud to Pinker, the roots of this belief have sunk deep into Western thought. Human beings, we're taught, are by nature selfish and governed primarily by self-interest.

But what if it isn't true? International bestseller Rutger Bregman provides new perspective on the past 200,000 years of human history, setting out to prove that we are hardwired for kindness, geared toward cooperation rather than competition, and more inclined to trust rather than distrust one another. In fact this instinct has a firm evolutionary basis going back to the beginning of Homo sapiens.

From the real-life Lord of the Flies to the solidarity in the aftermath of the Blitz, the hidden flaws in the Stanford prison experiment to the true story of twin brothers on opposite sides who helped Mandela end apartheid, Bregman shows us that believing in human generosity and collaboration isn't merely optimistic—it's realistic. Moreover, it has huge implications for how society functions. When we think the worst of people, it brings out the worst in our politics and economics. But if we believe in the reality of humanity's kindness and altruism, it will form the foundation for achieving true change in society, a case that Bregman makes convincingly with his signature wit, refreshing frankness, and memorable storytelling.


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