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OLT | 2481 comments Quick question to Shaz and Danker: Can the words "crikey" and "blimey" be used interchangeably?


message 1602: by Carol (new)

Carol | 2793 comments I use my Paperwhite strictly for reading Amazon and library books. It's an great for what it does. An Ipad will do both, but I don't think it's as great for reading. You can do a lot more with an Ipad.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Shaz wrote: "I am in the mood to read medieval story at the moment. I have some Christmas regency books to read in December.

I am thinking of buying a tablet for reading. Which would you recommend. At present ..."


If most of your books are kindle ebooks, I recommend the Kindle Fire. I love mine.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments Both mean surprised. Then for cor blimey it means shocked , alarmed surprised


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Shaz wrote: "Well that made me laugh. Crikey a word used a lot in the UK.
My husband goes on you tube a lot. It seems we use a lot of different saying, to other countries. People from America post videos, trans..."


You should visit the southern United States. FYI I use 'crikey' occasionally. Also 'yikes'. We are fond of 'bless her heart'. Depending on how it is used it can mean 'doesn't have enough sense to get out of the rain'.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments Why do people call flip flops 🩴 Thongs.
We call Knickers , thongs 🤷‍♀️😂


message 1607: by OLT (new)

OLT | 2481 comments This sort of vocabulary thing happens in all languages. Spanish word choices also vary from place to place. I even know of several Spanish words that are common and ordinary in one country and can be vulgarities in another. I got in trouble a few times that way when living in South America.

I think we have that issue in English with the word ‘root’ among others.


message 1608: by Carol (last edited Nov 26, 2022 08:06AM) (new)

Carol | 2793 comments https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/b... I forgot about the Galaxy tablet.

HBW, I also have a Kindle Fire, which I use for a lot of Epub books and audiobooks. I prefer reading on my Paperwhite. It's like reading on a clearly printed book.


message 1609: by Carol (new)

Carol | 2793 comments Shaz wrote: "Why do people call flip flops 🩴 Thongs.
We call Knickers , thongs 🤷‍♀️😂"


Thongs are skimpy panties to me. Flip-flops are beach shoes.


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OLT | 2481 comments I think thongs was pretty common for those sandals in the 60s and gradually was replaced by flip-flop. Now we avoid the word thong for sandals because of those egregiously uncomfortable panties.


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Carol | 2793 comments OLT wrote: "I think thongs was pretty common for those sandals in the 60s and gradually was replaced by flip-flop. Now we avoid the word thong for sandals because of those egregiously uncomfortable panties."

That's right. I remember. What's happening with your foot?


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Carol wrote: "https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/b... I forgot about the Galaxy tablet.

HBW, I also have a Kindle Fire, which I use for a lot of Epub books and audiobooks. I prefer reading on my Paperw..."


I do better with a black background. The lighter backgrounds give me eyestrain.


message 1613: by OLT (new)

OLT | 2481 comments Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "I think thongs was pretty common for those sandals in the 60s and gradually was replaced by flip-flop. Now we avoid the word thong for sandals because of those egregiously uncomfortable..."

Carol, the foot is still in the boot. My last X-ray didn't show enough bone fusion to let it out yet. I do cheat at night and put on a smaller post-op shoe that I bought on Amazon. But at least there is very little pain. Next X-ray on Dec. 4. I've got my fingers crossed.


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Carol | 2793 comments OLT wrote: "Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "I think thongs was pretty common for those sandals in the 60s and gradually was replaced by flip-flop. Now we avoid the word thong for sandals because of those egregiously..."

Oh darn, I was hoping it would be much better.


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OLT | 2481 comments Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "I think thongs was pretty common for those sandals in the 60s and gradually was replaced by flip-flop. Now we avoid the word thong for sandals because of those..."

LOL. Me too.


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OLT | 2481 comments Has anyone read this? Father Goose

It's a Christmas novella set in the post-Civil War era. Looks sweet but I'd like to know if it's worth three bucks for 100 pages.


message 1617: by Carol (new)

Carol | 2793 comments OLT wrote: "Has anyone read this? Father Goose

It's a Christmas novella set in the post-Civil War era. Looks sweet but I'd like to know if it's worth three bucks for 100 pages."


Geez, OLT you have to look into what your library has. Hoopladigita.coml offers this FREE! I'm thinking that if we don't support and use our libraries they are going to disappear.


message 1618: by OLT (last edited Nov 26, 2022 12:08PM) (new)

OLT | 2481 comments Carol wrote: "OLT wrote: "Has anyone read this? Father Goose

It's a Christmas novella set in the post-Civil War era. Looks sweet but I'd like to know if it's worth three bucks for 100 pages."

G..."


I know, I know. Before the pandemic and now the darned broken foot, I used to make frequent trips in person to my library, which is only 2-3 minutes or so by car. There's nothing like looking at all the real dead-tree books on the shelves and deciding what to choose.


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Carol | 2793 comments I used to buy a lot of the books i wanted to read. I read mostly from the NYTimes list but waited for the ones I wanted to come out in paperback. I hated lugging around a a heavy book and preferred reading from a smaller page. Ebooks have been a godsend to me.

To use hoopla, you need your library card number and a password your library gives you. Then you can just download the app and a book of your choice to you phone or whatever. You might be able to get your password over the phone. Easy peasy.


message 1620: by HR-ML (last edited Nov 26, 2022 01:30PM) (new)

HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3940 comments Mod
"Endeavor" streamed on PBS.
Watched first 2 episodes of season #1. A cop drama in 1960s UK.
It was like trying to eat only 2 peanuts. Joan posted a couple
mos. ago that she started over watching this.

I must limit my viewing time, or I won't get chores etc done.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments HR
have you watched Morse UK detective series, set in Oxford. Endeavour is the same detective in his younger years. I preferred Morse , liked the actor who played him. John Thaw.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments OLT wrote: "Has anyone read this? Father Goose

It's a Christmas novella set in the post-Civil War era. Looks sweet but I'd like to know if it's worth three bucks for 100 pages."


I know I have it in some anthology but can't find it. I remember liking it but probably would not pay 2.99 for it. But then I'm also cheap.


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HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3940 comments Mod
Shaz----

Thanks for responding.

IIRC I watched a couple episodes of Morse, but the accents threw me off. Sometimes people talk too fast. Same for a drama about 2 UK detectives, 1 male & 1 female. I have mild bi-lateral hearing loss, per the audiologist.

When I stream PBS on-line, they have optional closed-captioned, which I use. My TV is old & doesn't offer this feature.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "Shaz----

Thanks for responding.

IIRC I watched a couple episodes of Morse, but the accents threw me off. Sometimes people talk too fast. Same for a drama about 2 UK detectives, 1 male & 1 female..."


When and if I ever watch TV again, I also use the closed captioning. My hearing isn't great either.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments HR
You probably would not understand me then. I am from the same place as John Thaw. Manchester people are known for taking fast. Though he has lost most of our accent in that series.

Do you mean subtitles. I hate reading them on films, never give you enough time to read it.

Husband knows a bit of Italian and when we watch Montalbano the detective series. He says that the subtitle don’t match with what they are saying at times


message 1626: by BJ (last edited Nov 27, 2022 01:09AM) (new)

BJ (barbararhodes) | 123 comments Shaz wrote: "HR
You probably would not understand me then. I am from the same place as John Thaw. Manchester people are known for taking fast. Though he has lost most of our accent in that series.

Do you mean ..."

Love this conversation, I too use subtitles as I have trouble hearing combined with the sound has 'gone' on my TV.
Recently I was watching a few French shows and my kids noticed how i got so excited when what they were saying differed to the English subtitles. After all these years I knew what they were saying!
Ha ha, any slight ability I had is long gone but it made watching television a pleasure again.


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Danker | 1030 comments I think that Crikey and (less often) Blimey are expressions that are seldom heard nowadays in Australia. Usually, only by those of us who are over 70. I use them, but I fit into that age cohort. They were considered “proper” alternatives to swearing - although, in my case, as I also swear “like a trooper” the strategy didn’t work.
OLT - I’m so sorry about your foot and am wishing you a better longterm prognosis than mine. At least you are doing the right thing with the boot. As I whine away, trying to work in the garden, I curse myself for thinking it would get better in time.
Re captions - I use them all the time. Much prefer them to dubbing.
Elections - we had another election this weekend (ours are always on a Saturday). This time a State election - Victoria. (How is that for a colonial name?) I mention it because the Murdoch press ran over 100 negative stories in the last days of the campaign, all designed to overthrow the incumbent Labor Government. And the great majority of my fellow citizens refused to vote for the conservatives, ignored the Murdoch campaign of hatred and Labor was re-elected. Can’t fully express how happy it makes me to see Murdoch done down, yet again.


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Danker | 1030 comments Sorry - my comment above should be on the politics thread. I will try to be more careful. By the way, I use captions for English shows - haha. That’s so my husband can watch a show without the volume being at an unacceptably high level. Yes, I probably need hearing aids. No. I’m not getting them - too expensive.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments My husband puts the volume at around 30. Says there is nothing wrong with his hearing. I always turn it down to 20, hoping he won’t notice. Then about 15 if he’s not watching. My son says if he is watching the same program in his room upstairs. He doesn’t need the volume as he can hear it anyway. Lol.


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Carol | 2793 comments I watched OPPY on Amazon Prime last night. Very well done doc on the robots we sent to Mars and lasted way longer than the expected three months. Nice change.


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Carol | 2793 comments Shaz,
I turn the volume sometimes when watching a program from England hoping I'll be able to understand what they're saying. Gosh, the actors so mumble. Since the background music or noise gets louder with it, it doesn't help much. Subtitles help

A lot of the Regency novel are read by English readers, but I can easily understand them. It's just those darn mumbling actors.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments We are the same with films. The background always seems to be to loud. My husband always says, what did he say. Make’s me laugh, as I am reading. But sometimes I know what been said . He often rewind’s and we both don’t know what been said.
We have that many different dialects. The more north you go the harder it is to understand. My dad was Scottish, my husband used to say what has your dad just said.
That’s why a lot of our actors have to loose their accent or soften and slow them down.


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OLT | 2481 comments Danker wrote: "I think that Crikey and (less often) Blimey are expressions that are seldom heard nowadays in Australia. Usually, only by those of us who are over 70. I use them, but I fit into that age cohort. Th..."

Congratulations to your country for being sane and rejecting Murdoch, Danker. I wonder if we will ever be sane again here in the US. We did do better in our midterm elections than I had expected but still not good enough. And Florida has become even crazier than it was.


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OLT | 2481 comments Speaking of subtitles, I find mistakes in English close captioning of spoken English. As for Danish/Finnish/French/etc. to English subtitles, I have no idea about the mistakes but to err is human and I assume they are there. I've seen them in Spanish to English and vice versa.


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OLT | 2481 comments As for the hearing issue, my husband is 90% deaf in one ear and just last month got a hearing aid for that one ear only. It has made a huge difference for him, although fixing the settings on his phone is a pain and the occasional feedback sound is annoying. Maybe he just needs to get better at futzing around with it.


message 1636: by Danker (new)

Danker | 1030 comments Shaz. Yes, I’m probably deaf(ish) but you are so right about the mumbling. It is now very prevalent with English actors. And actors from my country. I can, however, watch a film from the 1950s, and earlier, and find the diction to be so much clearer that I have no problems with understanding what is being said, irrespective of the dialect. With North Americans, I seldom have problems, even now. My main issue there is only with one type of harsh accent, from the US, which I mainly find used by women on TV shows & podcasts and is painful to the ear - I think it is from the East Coast. All other accents from the US and Canada are melodic in comparison. Unlike the Aussie accent, which is sadly nasal.
PS. My hubby and I do the rewind thing as well and his hearing is perfect (well, he claims it to be so).


message 1637: by HR-ML (last edited Nov 27, 2022 12:46PM) (new)

HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3940 comments Mod
Thanks all for your thoughts on subtitles. Happy Book Worm would probably agree w/ me that the Southern (US) accent is one of the hardest to do. Most actors seem to mumble through this accent. Even Meryl Streep in "The Seduction of Joe Tynan" could not do it justice. Orson Wells, portraying a Southern patriarch, mumbled through "The Long, Hot Summer" reportedly b/c he was angry w/ the director or the studio.


message 1638: by HappyBookWorm2020 (last edited Nov 27, 2022 07:49PM) (new)

HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "Thanks all for your thoughts on subtitles. Happy Book Worm would probably agree w/ me that the Southern (US) accent is one of the hardest to do. Most actors seem to mumble through this accent. Even..."

Enjoyed reading about the subtitles. I agree with HR-ML - the Southern accent is difficult for people who didn't grow up with it. It is not the same all over the south (I assume). It's not even uniform in Alabama, where I live. It is probably hard to get good voice coaches who speak Southern (which isn't the same everywhere). And then we also have redneck speech.

I use the word 'ain't' for example. 'Naw, he ain't' is perfectly okay. That's redneck.

I was surprised to hear my black coworker's speech when she answered a call from her sister when I was in her office - her dialect wasn't anything like the speech she used to her coworkers. I've known her - or thought I did - for over 20 years. It's also not redneck.

I am sure we all have regional differences in speech. OLT, you live in Florida. What do you have in your area?


message 1639: by HR-ML (last edited Nov 28, 2022 09:09AM) (new)

HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3940 comments Mod
HBW----

I've heard slow Southern accents too, in real life. But most actors
use faux Southern accents IE Carrol O'Connor "In the Heat of
the Night (TV show.)

My late Mom, born in Louisiana, used to say "Y'all go to bed now."
I just added a black & white photo of Mom wearing her cameo.
It is on my GR profile page under "more photos."


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Carol | 2793 comments HR-ML wrote: "HBW----

I've heard slow Southern accents too, in real life. But most actors
use faux Southern accents IE Carrol O'Connor "In the Heat of the Night (TV Show.)

My late Mom, born in Louisiana, used..."


My husband said something to me using drug instead of dragged. Not being someone with a few doctorates, I shyly asked him what he meant. He laughed and said dragged. He got rid of most of Southern accent, but you can't take all the Southern out of a Southerner.


message 1641: by HR-ML (last edited Nov 28, 2022 09:12AM) (new)

HR-ML (hr-movielover) | 3940 comments Mod
Carol-----

Words are interesting. I don't get all the slang in "Endeavor" but sometimes guess by context.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments I don’t understand some of the words the younger generation use. Have to ask the grandchildren what they mean.
I thought woke and snowflake meant the same thing .

A few of our saying. Wondering if you use them.
1 Plate’s of meat. 2 Up the Apple and pear’s. 3 Noggin. 4 Mince pies. 5 Barking up the wrong tree. 6 Curiosity killed the cat. 7 Hit the nail on the head. 8 Speak of the devil. 9 were you born in a barn. 10 fancy a cuppa.


message 1643: by OLT (new)

OLT | 2481 comments Shaz, #5,6,7 and 8 are very well known to me. The others not so much.


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Carol | 2793 comments Shaz wrote: "I don’t understand some of the words the younger generation use. Have to ask the grandchildren what they mean.
I thought woke and snowflake meant the same thing .

A few of our saying. Wondering i..."


I have no idea what 1 and 2 mean. I guess mince pies are just mincemeat pies??? The rest I'm familiar with.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "HBW----

I've heard slow Southern accents too, in real life. But most actors
use faux Southern accents IE Carrol O'Connor "In the Heat of
the Night (TV show.)

My late Mom, born in Louisiana, use..."


HR-ML wrote: "HBW----

I've heard slow Southern accents too, in real life. But most actors
use faux Southern accents IE Carrol O'Connor "In the Heat of
the Night (TV show.)

My late Mom, born in Louisiana, use..."


That's exactly what my Mama told us! Did you pick up some of your Mama's accent?


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments HR-ML wrote: "HBW----

I've heard slow Southern accents too, in real life. But most actors
use faux Southern accents IE Carrol O'Connor "In the Heat of
the Night (TV show.)

My late Mom, born in Louisiana, use..."


What a beautiful lady. And your husband is so talented.


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HappyBookWorm2020 | 4294 comments Shaz wrote: "I don’t understand some of the words the younger generation use. Have to ask the grandchildren what they mean.
I thought woke and snowflake meant the same thing .

A few of our saying. Wondering i..."


I have used noggin, barking up the wrong tree, curiosity killed the cat, hit the nail on the head, speak of the devil, and were you born in a barn. Heard that last one a lot from my Mama, and if she were to walk into my house now, she'd think she was in a barn.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments I , Feet. 2, stairs. Said to children when it’s time for bed. 3, Brain. Use your noggin. 4 , Eyes 👀 9, shut the door. 10 cup of tea.


message 1649: by Carol (new)

Carol | 2793 comments Thank you. 10. Would be coffer here and we're not so polite. It would be want a cuppa.


🐝 Shaz 🐝  | 319 comments Cuppa is always tea. Do you want a drink, is tea or coffee. Since we retired, I don’t move till hubby brings me a cuppa, in the morning.


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