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Phil, psn: p4tiny wrote: "R(ob) wrote: "Anyone tempted by PS5 Pro?"
I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months before the ps6 launches so all the hardware revisions will have been ..."
So PS5 Pro will be your last ever console? Why would that be your last?
I'm tempted by PS5 Pro but for the sake of 3 years before PS6 (which I intend to buy) it seems like a lot of money for a short lived pro console lifespan. I mean I enjoyed PS4 Pro and One X, more the latter as it was more powerful and you could see it, but the big benefit of PS4 Pro/One X console was that they were the first 4k machines and that was a massive step-up. PS5 Pro will definitely be less of an improvement comparatively mid gen. I mean I want 4k 60fps but surely I can wait 3 more years for that rather than fork out yet another £500-600. And plus I don't think even PS5 Pro will be 4k 60FPS.
I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months before the ps6 launches so all the hardware revisions will have been ..."
So PS5 Pro will be your last ever console? Why would that be your last?
I'm tempted by PS5 Pro but for the sake of 3 years before PS6 (which I intend to buy) it seems like a lot of money for a short lived pro console lifespan. I mean I enjoyed PS4 Pro and One X, more the latter as it was more powerful and you could see it, but the big benefit of PS4 Pro/One X console was that they were the first 4k machines and that was a massive step-up. PS5 Pro will definitely be less of an improvement comparatively mid gen. I mean I want 4k 60fps but surely I can wait 3 more years for that rather than fork out yet another £500-600. And plus I don't think even PS5 Pro will be 4k 60FPS.
Equinox80 wrote: "The Xbox showcase looked to be the best of the lot compared with Sony and Gamefest. Thankfully a lot of the games shown will come to PS5 too. Probably not Gears though which is an Xbox franchise I ..."
Yea we are yet to see if the really big xbox exclusives will go to PS5 - my guess that Gears E-Day, Fable, Perfect Dark, State of Decay 3 probably won't, or at least not for a long while.
Yea we are yet to see if the really big xbox exclusives will go to PS5 - my guess that Gears E-Day, Fable, Perfect Dark, State of Decay 3 probably won't, or at least not for a long while.

I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months before the ps6 launches so all the hardware..."
There is a chance that I get a ps6 IF it has a disc drive or at least an optional disc-drive. I don't really have any interest in an all-digital console...and I really think the ps6 will be all-digital.
I also don't think the ps5-pro will be able to to native 4k/60fps, but I do think that the all-but-confirmed PSSR (PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution) / aka Sony's name for the same technology as Nvidia's DLSS / AMD’s FSR, will upscale (simulate) the effect, and maybe even upscale to 4k/120fps. While again - it won't be won't be native, it will probably still look brilliant, the same way as the ps4-pro wasn't native 4k but was checkerboard (simulated) 4k and in reality looked like native 4k to the naked eye.
Actual basic graphics/animations/particle effects/detail in games etc. is more than brilliant enough for me in ps5 games - so yeah, ps5-pro will deffo be enough, and I also want my console to play discs :)
Phil, psn: p4tiny wrote: "R(ob) wrote: "Phil, psn: p4tiny wrote: "R(ob) wrote: "Anyone tempted by PS5 Pro?"
I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months before the ps6 launches so al..."
Ah I see. I thought you were like 90 years old and wasn't expecting to live long enough to PS6. That's good news then if it's only the potential lack of disk drive that puts you off :-).
Yea checkerboard rendering looked OK but when I used a One X alongside a PS4 Pro you could see the higher native resolution. I mean I only sit like 6 feet away from a large TV screen so it's pretty noticeable. OK nothing major, certainly could live with checkerboard rending, but I noticed the improvement in sharpness and clarity on the One X compared to Pro.
I am considering to go streaming only next gen for XBox. However, FPS games you definitely notice the lag. Racers I find it perfectly fine. OK and the resolution takes a hit but if saves me several hundred pounds then I think I might take the resolution hit. One thing for sure being a dual console owner I really don't think is worth it nowadays - albeit I think that will pick up towards the end of current gen. The only reason to be dual console currently is for games pass and the money saving aspect if you play a lot of games you could play on PS5 but included on games pass. And over the years a lot of big AAA third-party games have come to games pass on release day, or soon after.
I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months before the ps6 launches so al..."
Ah I see. I thought you were like 90 years old and wasn't expecting to live long enough to PS6. That's good news then if it's only the potential lack of disk drive that puts you off :-).
Yea checkerboard rendering looked OK but when I used a One X alongside a PS4 Pro you could see the higher native resolution. I mean I only sit like 6 feet away from a large TV screen so it's pretty noticeable. OK nothing major, certainly could live with checkerboard rending, but I noticed the improvement in sharpness and clarity on the One X compared to Pro.
I am considering to go streaming only next gen for XBox. However, FPS games you definitely notice the lag. Racers I find it perfectly fine. OK and the resolution takes a hit but if saves me several hundred pounds then I think I might take the resolution hit. One thing for sure being a dual console owner I really don't think is worth it nowadays - albeit I think that will pick up towards the end of current gen. The only reason to be dual console currently is for games pass and the money saving aspect if you play a lot of games you could play on PS5 but included on games pass. And over the years a lot of big AAA third-party games have come to games pass on release day, or soon after.

I will be getting a ps5-pro, towards the end of the generation, maybe about 6 months bef..."
Yeah, it's not because i'm incredibly old nor terminal! Grumpy old man outlook though - yes more often than not lol

Also started the PS4 version of Art of Rally, and enjoying playing it again

It's so convenient picking up games in PS store sales or playing via PS+. I can switch between games without getting off Mt backside too.
I'm currently playing Spider-man 2 from disc and the disc drive is quite noisy. Although to be fair it doesn't read the disc for long.




Surely if consoles were streaming-only they wouldn't need that much processing power, just enough to receive the internet signal, competently convert that to a TV/monitor display, and competently interpret controller input signals?
The reason I assume that is because if I wanted to I could stream XSX/SS games through my X1S (I did consider it for Starfield but thought again because I like to own a game I'm playing - even if that ownership is digital-only on an SSD - just so I can play with no internet connection if I wanted/needed to, also I didn't want to pay for any kind of GamesPass...and because it turned out Starfield isn't all that).
But streaming-only consoles would be pretty cheap no? And a more viable option if you're ok with not actually owning any games, if internet connections were/are fast enough and reliable enough?

I can stream without a console straight to my TV. Sync the controller to the TV, sign in to Xbox live on the Xbox tv app and that’s it assuming you subscribe to games pass. Works really well for most games, except twitch shooters. Definitely better for slower paced games.

I would really like to do this, but it isn't offered on my lower-end TVs.
Error wrote: "R(ob) wrote: "I can stream without a console straight to my TV. Sync the controller to the TV, sign in to Xbox live on the Xbox tv app and that’s it assuming you subscribe to games pass. Works real..."
I believe, in the UK, it's only Samsung TVs since 2020. Not sure about other regions. Hopefully they support other TV brands over time. If you have a tablet or smart phone you can stream to these too, albeit it on a much smaller screen. Apple iOS doesn't have a native app but MS have provided support to a browser - which I've tried and works quite well. Streaming is definitely a compromise but if you want a quick easy way to access games it works well enough - all depending on the quality of your internet connection. I only have 60Mbps down/18Mbps up and it's fine for me.
I believe, in the UK, it's only Samsung TVs since 2020. Not sure about other regions. Hopefully they support other TV brands over time. If you have a tablet or smart phone you can stream to these too, albeit it on a much smaller screen. Apple iOS doesn't have a native app but MS have provided support to a browser - which I've tried and works quite well. Streaming is definitely a compromise but if you want a quick easy way to access games it works well enough - all depending on the quality of your internet connection. I only have 60Mbps down/18Mbps up and it's fine for me.

Error wrote: "Yeah I would like to game occasionally on the giant 70inch in the movie room. My wife, however, has declared that a console free zone for aesthetic reasons. I accept that since I have half the hous..."
I'm surprised MS haven't released a cheap dongle equivalent to a fire tv stick. It'd have to be really cheap though - like £30-50 here in the UK as most streaming sticks are around this price.
I'm surprised MS haven't released a cheap dongle equivalent to a fire tv stick. It'd have to be really cheap though - like £30-50 here in the UK as most streaming sticks are around this price.




Story wasn't bad and the combat is always fun. The formula for these games has got a bit repetitive though and clearing the map of icons started to feel like a chore towards the end.

Now looking forward to getting stuck into the Elden Ring expansion tomorrow
Equinox80 wrote: "https://youtu.be/ONz4eKdE45k?si=o8uYP...
For those with an interest in Space Marine 2"
Yea looks really good.
I completed the Dead Space remake. Really good. Really stands the test of time and is better than most single player game nowadays.
I'm not playing anything at the moment. Still Wakes The Deep looks a bit crap and Hellblade 2 looks even worse. So, I’m struggling for my next game. I did wonder about Diablo 4 - first obvious question from me - is it rock hard for a Diablo noob like me?
For those with an interest in Space Marine 2"
Yea looks really good.
I completed the Dead Space remake. Really good. Really stands the test of time and is better than most single player game nowadays.
I'm not playing anything at the moment. Still Wakes The Deep looks a bit crap and Hellblade 2 looks even worse. So, I’m struggling for my next game. I did wonder about Diablo 4 - first obvious question from me - is it rock hard for a Diablo noob like me?



It's a bit rubbish but at least your 100% will stay intact.

And I think I've convinced myself to start a new game, it'll get me back into the swing of things, at least. Was very rusty what little I'd started of the expansion
In a complete u-turn I decided against Diablo. I read some user reviews and the main thing that put me off was needing to sign up for a Blizzard account before you can play. So I tried Hellblade 2 and although it looked pretty graphically the combat was awful so I binned it off after about 30 mins. And in the expectation of completing a home run of dismissing games I started Still Wakes the Deep. And so far it’s not bad. Quite linear but atmospheric and some really good characters. All Scottish accents that sound genuine and with all the swearing you’d expect 😀. Might appeal to Deckard after all. Played around an hour and it’s not bad so I’ll keep going. Only gameplay really is jumping gaps, pulling levers and a bit of Outlast sneak around the monster.


And just one more trophy in Art of Rally (PS4) but it's the complete 1000 stage one, which I'm not really in the mood for at the minute. One of those trophies that turns a "fun game, enjoyed it" into a "mostly fun but the end was a bit of a chore"

I think next time I see Art of Rally on sale, I'll have to pick it up. Looks good.









I’ve nearly completed Still Wakes the Deep. It has no annoying sections (so far), it’s all very straightforward. It’s ok. It’s like Outlast crossed with The Thing but game play wise pretty easy with some avoid the monster, basic jumping, platforming and environment puzzles again all easy. Nothing special but it’s done well enough. Very linear, you always know where to go as it’s marked in yellow - which I know will divide opinion. It’s got good atmosphere, the characters and dialogue are very good. And surely is it the only game ever set in Scotland (well, Scottish oil rig) with a nearly 100% Scottish cast? And all seem genuine Scottish actors. Even the dialogue sounds genuine - the number of C words used is up there with near reality. For any Scot gamer it’s surely a must play at some point even if you wait for ps plus which I do recommend. It’s not bad though. I’d say a 6-7/10.

Linear, story focused...normally not often floating my boat but think I'm in that kind of mood at the minute. Think I'll take a gamble, always did like The Thing
It's make or break time for Xbox and Gamepass. Putting COD on there day one could go either way.