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He had then cut a lock of hair from Nathair’s head
So now we know how things will go if Nathair doesn't want to be the Dark Sun.. although, it's something we could've assumed.. or maybe we already did? I don't remember if we discussed that or not.
‘Now think on this. Asroth would come here not to destroy, but to rule. He would fashion an empire, just as you have imagined. A new order, one defined by peace, once the dissenters were dealt with. No different from your plans. And you could still be a part of it. Our numbers are too few; we will need someone to rule the Banished Lands. Someone who could unite the realms. I believe that someone is you.’
Okay so... is Nathair, and maybe Ban also, as the Black Sun meant to be a vessel for Asroth? 😮 Like the way the Jehar that were possessed by the Kadoshim. Because it says that Asroth wants to rule, and that they need Nathair to be someone that can rule.. This is kinda midblowing.
Chapter 5
Conall cutting Marrock’s throat and tossing him to the waves Sooo.. this is something I also don't remember.
Chapter 7
. Although the fact that Corban seems to be taking counsel from a scruffy old raven over the high captain of the Ben-Elim is a little worrying.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chapter 8
I hope Alcyon is all right. She frowned at her own thoughts. He was my captor.
Awww, she's worried about Alcyon.. I hope he gets out of Calidus' hands and joins Cywen and the Bright Star crew.
The world has gone mad. My brother, the champion of Elyon. She snorted with nervous laughter
It's funny how people close to Ban react to him being The Seven Disgraces. 😂
mina wrote: "Chapter 3He had then cut a lock of hair from Nathair’s head
So now we know how things will go if Nathair doesn't want to be the Dark Sun.. although, it's something we could've assumed.. or maybe ..."
1) I dont think Calidus neither got the opportunity nor the necessity to cut Nathair's hair, until the truth came out.
2) Ban is no longer Asroth's champion. It says Asroth wants to come in flesh, so I am not sure if it works the same way as the Kadoshim. Does Asroth need a vessel? Probably that is the question here..
A new order, one defined by peace, once the dissenters were dealt with.
Isn't that how dictators rule? If Nathair gives even a thought about what Calidus said, he feels naive.
3) Btw, even Dath hasn't given up on calling him The Seven Disgraces 😂
On a side note, Alcyon has been good to Cywen. I think he is working with Calidus because of some oath. He might help Cywen and co. in the future, I think.
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2) Yeah, I didn't mean Ban like for Asroth, but for Elyon.. Like a final battle between good and evil that maybe they'll possess their champions. I don't know if he needs a vessel, but just look how Calidus told Nathair about the ruling. That Asroth wants to rule, but then he says that they are few, and that they'll need someone to rule.. so why would they need someone to rule if Asroth wants to rule??
Also, in flesh.. he's now just in people's minds so he's in the Banished lands in some form.. getting a body would be in flesh..
3) Dath is amazing 😂 I think that'll be something that I'll for sure remember about this series.
I wouldn't call Alcyon working with Calidus, more like he's made to... and it's not an oath but the clay+hair manipulation.
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I wonder what Calidus will do with Ban's mother's head.. definitely not something good.
Chapter 11
I hope they'll somehow end up saving the giants.
Chapter 12
😂😂😂 Craf and Fech ordering Cywen.
Ok, It looks like GR is glitching badly and I am not receiving any notifications :/Chapter 10:
I hope Ban doesnt have to fight someone having his mother's head.
Chapter 11:
I wonder if the giants are related to Alcyon, and if this is the reason why he is working with Calidus and Lykos.
Chapter 21:
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Calidus said, glancing casually at a Kadoshim pinning a screaming man down, taking bites out of his throat.
Zombies 😃😃
Chapter 21
Yes, but what are the consequences? I expected him to return as a Kadoshim or something.
And it would appear you are right about the captive giants. There's something important about them since he kept them hidden for 12 years.
mina wrote: "Chapter 17Calidus said, glancing casually at a Kadoshim pinning a screaming man down, taking bites out of his throat.
Zombies 😃😃
Chapter 21
Yes, but what are the consequences? I expected him to r..."
It would mean that fatality is not absolute in the world. Meical too might be able to bring back someone (like Corban) who is at the verge of death.
Did Alcyon make a pact with Asroth? if not, the giants might be the only reason why he is working with Calidus.
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No, I don't think so. I'm still behind the "Calidus is controlling Alcyon with the clay thingy" so that the giants are why he has to behave... although if he's being controlled it's enough that Calidus has his hair.. and also that's under the assumption that the giants ARE connected to Alcyon. Do we know since when Alcyon started working for Calidus??
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I read ch 27"
Damn, that was too quick and did not even give me time to absorb it. Poor Fech ☹️
Chapter 26:Its interesting to have a chapter from Rafe's PoV. When you look at things from his side, particularly the way the dives for his hound, he feels as humane as Corban and co. Its just that he is on a different side.
His imagination for revenge on Corban though, gives those evil vibes.
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mina wrote: "chapter 28I had to complain about this part
Fidele. He had never felt like this about a woman before, always took what he wanted, with rarely a second thought. No doubt he had enough bastards sca..."
I think it was probably because Fidele stabbed him and escaped. No one has ever done that to him before.
Chapter 72:We all know there is one chapter where a lot of important stuff happens.. This is one of them.
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47.
High chances yes, but I'm still thinking of the clay magic 😂 Alcyon does have more freedom than Fidele had so 🤷♀️ but I can't stop thinking of the moment when he told (Veradis?) about how Calidus can do things if he has someones hair and because of that I think that's from personal experience but 🤷♀️
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Happy? I'm glad Hallion is back among the good guys. Yes Evnis being alive is a problem, but Vonn's reaction is actually understandable even though not desirable. Like you said, in war hesitation kills. Let's hope he personally kills Evnis in battle.
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Yeees? It does look that way doesn't it.. I wanna ask but does she really or maybe it's some kind of trick for us, readers, to doubt her... but you finished it so it doesn't feel right to ask even hypothetical questions.
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High chances yes, but I'm still thinking of the clay magic 😂 Alcyon does have more freedom than Fidele had so 🤷♀️ but I can't stop thinking of the moment when he told (Veradis?) a..."
47. I know the answer by the end of the book and you will find out!
50. Yes. I kinda know the answer as far as the book is concerned but 🤐
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So we both were right :D
I'm not surprised for Nathair. You remember there was a moment where Calidus asked for Nathair's hair or something "just in case".
*Really didn't expect Ektor to be a little traitorous shit... but also it could be expected, he was ridiculed all his life, not appreciated, it makes sense that he would go to the other side because they "see his value"
mina wrote: "* Was so happy when Maquin bit Lykos :D"That was a moment I had so much enjoyed. Didnt feel bad for Lykos at any point. He deserved all that suffering.
mina wrote: "I'm not surprised for Nathair. You remember there was a moment where Calidus asked for Nathair's hair or something "just in case"
This, I still wonder though. Because is Nathair in Calidus' control all the time? I wonder if Calidus is doing it or if Nathair is behaving that way due to his bond to Asroth.
Ektor was a surprising one, but again, what he said made sense.
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