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BBC List: How many have you read?
Twenty, but a couple I have on the go.

Paula wrote: "44, with another 25 on my TBR pile. It's an interesting list. For example, I proudly display Vanity Fair on my bookshelf, both because I love it and slightly for bragging rights. Yet, Bridget Jones..."
You must just remind yourself that Salman Rushdie deemed it "a brilliant comic creation." *nods*
You must just remind yourself that Salman Rushdie deemed it "a brilliant comic creation." *nods*

ahem, anyway, I've read 52 of them.

I liked the first Bridget Jones. Parts of it were laugh out loud funny. The second one . . . not so much.

Paula, I don't mind topics that steer from Victoriana. I am sure it keeps the discussions varied and interesting.


Great thread, Paula.


Agree - that counts! I've only gotten through a few from Shakespeare; would love to get through more. Some of his sonnets are among my all-time favorite pieces of writing.

That begs the question - which ones were abandoned?

I wondered if I just tend to surround myself with readers, and the "6" assumption included people who never read, but I put this list in front of several of my friends with small results. They spend a lot of time reading, but of the 6 people I asked, only 3 of them had actually read more than 6! Their tastes just don't align with the list, and while I can't keep up with their Jodi Picoult(sic) conversations, they can't comprehend why I'm reading something written 200 years ago.
My favorite line from a friend: "You only read one book this month? (Bleak House) I thought you considered yourself a reader; I read 4 books this week!"
:)



I notice they have both the Complete Works of Shakespeare (I was in a reading group which read all of the plays through; I wonder whether they include King Edward III in their complete works?) and Hamlet. If you've done the complete, you get to count Hamlet again, presumably.
It's a weird list, though.


I've read 44... but when I saw this list on facebook, I looked into its origin, since it was stirring up so much controversy and nearly everyone felt the list was flawed in some way (which is, by itself, quite interesting imo!).
In 2003, the BBC came up with The Big Read list based on votes that constituted "the nation's best-loved novel" ... but according to some, the list morphed a lot, and there was never a BBC "most people have read fewer than 6" type of judgement (which is a nice relief):
Analysis 1 (http://bit.ly/lO8Q7)
Analysis 2 (http://bit.ly/SeU1t)
Analysis 3 (http://bit.ly/Iwklz)
Penguin recently released The Ten Essential Penguin Classics (which ends with "Buy all ten for $99!! -- lol):
- Of Mice and Men
- Jane Eyre
- Pride and Prejudice
- The Odyssey
- Hamlet
- Moby-Dick
- Metamorphosis and Other Stories
- The Three Theban Plays
- Walden and Civil Disobedience
- Inferno
Such fun stuff; really good for conversation, huh!?

Good stuff! Thanks for clearing the BBC of blame regarding this list. I agree; interesting conversation item.
Personally, I think any list or allegation that makes people respond with "Give me that list, I bet I've read more than 6!" is a good thing :) If people want to read more to prove someone else wrong, I'm all for it.
Sharing this list with some non-GR friends prompted several to go to the book store right away and pick up a few so that they could get to 7 read. I won't say I encouraged them, I just told them which bookstore was closest, that's all.


P.S. I love lists of books.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top...
And here's a Canadian one:
http://www.canada.com/topics/lifestyl...

Oh - me, too! Have you visited listsofbests.com? I have about 12 working lists right now, which I compiled into a consolidated spreadsheet. The total list now includes roughly 1,750 books that I want to read, complete with formatting so the colors change when I move it to "read" status, and a formula that tells me how many I need to read per year if I want to finish by the time I'm 80.
What can I say - I love books, I love lists - put the two together, I'm in my bliss. Plus, I work on spreadsheets all day at work so I couldn't help myself.


It was amazing how many of the classics I've read, and how many of the "book club" books I've avoided. Looking at the list was a lot of fun. There was a time when I would have enjoyed actually doing the list, but I've outgrown that kind of thing.

Paula, I spent months reading Bleak House, so I totally relate. That is another thing that makes me different -- I usually don't like rushing through a good dense novel! ha ha


One children's book on the list that is well known in England but not well known in this country is Arthur Ransome's Swallows and Amazons. It is a fantastic book (as is the rest of the series) for children ages about 8 and up -- I still re-read them in adulthood. I highly recommend S&A (read it first -- it introduces the children) and the others.
What is great about the books is that they are completely believable adventures (no Nancy Drew or Harry Potter unbelievable stuff here) about completely believable and likable children. One really can think that these adventures really could happen to oneself. They are based on Ransome's own childhood vacations in the Lake Country and elsewhere in England; the locations are real (one can track the adventures of Secret Water, the Big Six, and others on Google maps).
Highly recommended; if you have children, or even if you don't, get a copy of Swallows and Amazons and enjoy.

One children's book on the list that is well known in England but not well known in this country is Art..."
Everyman I think you were made for the OU! - There is a new course on Children's Literature that includes Swallows and Amazons on its reading list (...and Harry potter too unfortunately!):
http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/undergra...#
- I have it on my study plan to start in October 2010 straight after I've finished this years course on the 19th Century novel.
Ally

24 for sure I have read. Several in the list I want to read... I am reading His Dark Materials currently.

I just read this trilogy earlier this year - what do you think of it? I had a hard time putting it down.

Ooooh... "want to reads."
Imagine you had 2 free days - free of work, free of kids, the house is clean, no errands to run, all is right with the world.
Which of these books would you sink into? (Feel free to extend the 2 days if you choose something like Complete Shakespeare :)

I just read this trilogy earlier this year - what do you think of it? I had a hard time putting it down.
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I am partly through The Golden Compass and am hooked. I was reading the commentaries about it and the controversies as well. Some say it is a direct anti-thesis to Chronicles of Narnia. I can understand why they would say that and I am probably highly satisfied if it is. So far though it is far better then Chronicles of Narnia which i had read twice over when i was younger.

Ooooh... "want to reads."
Imagine you had 2 free days - free of work, free of kids, the house is clean, no errands to run, al..."
I would probably pick One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez as i havnt read it yet and have it in my bookcase.

I just read this trilogy earlier this year - what do you think of it? I had a hard time putting it down.
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I am partly..."
Like Chronicles of Narnia for adults? Or CofN for the next generation?

Cloud Atlas, by David Mitchell. I picked it up from the library just today.

Thanks for mentioning it.
Unfortunately, at the moment that course doesn't seem to be available for the US.
I've looked into the OU in the past, but it has seemed very expensive. The fee for this course wasn't listed (even if it were available in the US), so I don't know about this one.

Which of these books would you sink into?"
If I'm limited to that list, probably Ulysses. But if I could extend the two days long enough, I would go with either Proust's Remembrance, or Gibbons's Decline and Fall. I'm wanting to get to both of them, but somehow I never believe I'll have the time for either.
1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
4 Harry Potter series - JK Rowling
5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
6 The Bible
7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
8 Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman
10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott
12 Tess of the D’Urbervilles - Thomas Hardy
13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier
16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulk
18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
19 The Time Traveler’s Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
20 Middlemarch - George Eliot
21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell
22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald
23 Bleak House - Charles Dickens
24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
25 The Hitch Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis
34 Emma - Jane Austen
35 Persuasion - Jane Austen
36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - CS Lewis
37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini
38 Captain Corelli’s Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres
39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden
40 Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne
41 Animal Farm - George Orwell
42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown
43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving
45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins
46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery
47 Far From The Madding Crowd -
48 The Handmaid’s Tale - Margaret Atwood
49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding
50 Atonement - Ian McEwan
51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel
52 Dune - Frank Herbert
53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon
57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime - Mark Haddon
60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt
64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold
65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac
67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
68 Bridget Jones’s Diary - Helen Fielding
69 Midnight’s Children - Salman Rushdie
70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville
71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
72 Dracula - Bram Stoker
73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson
75 Ulysses - James Joyce
76 The Inferno – Dante
77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
78 Germinal - Emile Zola
79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray
80 Possession - AS Byatt
81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell
83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker
84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro
85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry
87 Charlotte’s Web - EB White
88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Albom
89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton
91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
94 Watership Down - Richard Adams
95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute
97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare
99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl
100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo