Wikisource

[Emily]

Are public domain texts that are posted on Wikisource considered books on Goodreads?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page

[Suzi]

Emily wrote: "Are public domain texts that are posted on Wikisource considered books on Goodreads?
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Main_Page"

I would think that the same answer would apply to Gutenberg or Hathitrust. [whatever the answer is]

[Emily]

I think my question is more along the lines of which types of those texts would be a book (that are not obvious books.) For example this very short story, originally published in a newspaper:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/West_I...

[Miriam]

Emily wrote: "I think my question is more along the lines of which types of those texts would be a book (that are not obvious books.) For example this very short story, originally published in a newspaper:
http..."

How would this be any difference than the stories from magazines? We don't consider those books, so why would this be considered a book?

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

The difference is that the wikisource short story is published separately from the entire newspaper, whereas those stories published in an online magazine are not published separately. That doesn't mean I know whether or not such a story is a book on Goodreads.

[Emily]

Miriam wrote: "How would this be any difference than the stories from magazines? We don't consider those books, so why would this be considered a book?"

I was just seeking clarification if this counts as being published separately.
There are a number of others that I have seen so perhaps this is not the best example. I will ask about those if I have a question.

[Elizabeth (Alaska)]

I don't see how it wouldn't be considered published separately. There are many public domain stories on GR that were originally published in collections/anthologies and that are now published separately. True, those may have ASINs, but we accept a story published on an author's or publisher's website as published separately. Should we consider Wikisource a publisher?

Interesting that Howard's possibly first published story was in the school newspaper.

[Renske]

A thought I had, it feels a bit as the digital version of clipping an article from a newspaper. Not sure how much this helps in defining what counts as a separate publication.

[Keith]

In the absence of a more specific Ruling From On High, I would think the controlling policy is from the don't add list:

Shorts are retained in some cases. Shorts that belong are those that are:

• Published separately

• Published online as a specified short story (i.e. not a "bonus")

Since Wikisource is not "only available via subscription," it would seem to me that such shorts are as much "published separately" as they would be on any other website, such as TOR or Gutenberg. The question of whether it's "separate" would seem to turn on whether it has its own unique URL (as opposed to a story embedded in a page of multiple stories, which might then instead count as an anthology).

All that said, such a policy seems sure to lead to widespread micro-cruft, so hopefully TPTB will advise and update the Librarian Manual accordingly.

[Emily]

Thanks for weighing in, Keith.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Keith wrote: "The question of whether it's "separate" would seem to turn on whether it has its own unique URL"

Many magazine stories, which we do not consider separately published, have unique URLs.

There is too much variety among the items hosted on Wikisource to have a general rule.