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Welcome to the Vengeful Buddy Read Discussion thread! This thread officially opens on February 18th and anyone can join at any time. Please keep in mind that spoilers are allowed in this thread but only up to the group's current reading place. Do not spoil the book if you've read further than the group. Any extra days can be used to catch up!

Each day we will be reading by chapters or page numbers. Page numbers are an approximation based on the hardcover or paperback that is the default on Goodreads. The suggested Buddy Read discussion schedule is as follows:

Week of 02/18
February 18: 100 pages
February 19: 100 pages
February 20: 100 pages
February 21: 100 pages

Week of 02/22
February 22: 100 pages

PARTICIPANTS
~ Alex
~ Emily


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments Hi Emily! I'm starting this tomorrow.


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments I'm a bit behind on this at the moment but looking to catch up today.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments I just finished part one (114 pages)! I finished the first book in this duology just four days ago, but I missed these characters so much. Victor and Sydney own my heart. 🥺 That said, I know it's just Victor being Victor, but I wish he'd give Syd a bit more love! I know he is in his own way, but it's hard to see it.

I'm a little nervous that we'll get less of Victor and the gang in the upcoming sections because when I quickly flipped through before starting to look for their names, I didn't see them as much in the middle of the book. Still keeping my fingers crossed!


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments I'm almost done with Part 1 and tbh I don't mind having less Victor and the gang moments cause I liked what I saw of Marcella so far. But I do wish Victor would just be more open to Syd so they can grow together.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments Just finished part two (up to 223)! There was not a single Victor chapter and now I'm sad. 😢 That said, the Eli and Marcella chapters we actually really good. We barely got to peek inside Eli's head in book one, so it's nice to finally get some backstory. Marcella seems actually pretty awesome! I know she's the villain and I might end up hating her, but she's interesting to follow.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments I know that it looks like Marcella is going to end up being the big bad, but I'm a little worried about June.

1) She wants to steal Syd away.
2) She can't feel pain, so Victor can't do anything.
3) She's touched Mitch, so she can basically do whatever she wants to him or in his name.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments Finished part three (up to 351.) We FINALLY got some more Victor/Syd/Mitch action at the end there; I was getting worried! Marcella and her little team just grow more and more interesting.

Just interested: who do you think is worse? Eli or Marcella? If you had to let one of them walk, who would be less of a danger?


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments What I find so interesting about this series is that it makes me root for the "villains" that you would consider outside this universe.

And I agree that I'm starting to sympathise with Eli way more because of his backstory which I can't blame the guy for how he turned up given the torture he's received. And it made it sound like he grew up in a cult of some sort.

I like Marcella but she's definitely the worse of two evils between Eli and her since her power can literally kill me. But I like her more than Eli cause she is a badass at what she does.

I want to know more about June and I feel like the third book may focus on her. She seems to be the new invincible Eli with her shapeshifting powers.

Speaking of Sydney I hope she'll not resurrect her sister or at least fid some way to control her cause thats dangerous. Like if all the girls (Syd, Serena, June and Marcella) teamed up the world is basically over.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments So true! If it was Syd, Serena, June, and Marcella vs. literally anyone we all know who'd win. 😂

I just finished! I'm semi-angry because IS THAT A FREAKING OPEN ENDING? I don't know where you are in the book so I won't go on a full tangent, but WHAT THE HECK HOW COULD VICTORIA DO THIS TO ME. Also, she said in an interview that each of these books will be five years apart. We have to wait for 2023!!


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments I'll hopefully finish it today since I want to binge it today. Finger crossed. And sorry I've been lagging in this BR (I was dealing with ACOSF hangover).

But speaking of the open ending, Vicious also had an open ending in a way so would you say it's worse than that?


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments Yes, I would definitely say so. 😂

A little off-topic, but how was ACOSF? My preorder is STILL in transit (thanks UPS) and I'm DYING waiting for it!


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments It was amazing!! Hence, the book hangover I'm currently in. I don't want to get your expectations too high but it's on the level of ACOMAF but I would say its heavily character-driven.


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✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments Going back to the Vengeful . I don't like how June wants Sydney to be with her cause judging by the characters in this universe I feel an ulterior motive.

And I kinda feel bad for Eli being treated like an animal. I know he's a murderer and all but Stell's heroism is an eye roll. This is one of the few books that make me root for the villains cause the "heroes" are just not as compelling as them.

Also I just realised it took me this long (page 397) to realise that Marcella has the villain name when she went back to her maiden name. Like we have a VV, EE and now an MM. I'm just waiting to see if any future characters will share this trait.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments It's on the level of ACOMAF 😱

Oh my gosh, I didn't even notice the thing about her last name! Victoria Schwab is so good at doing little subtle things like that! There's a reason I love her books 😂

Blech, Stell is not a hero. The thing about this series is that it's called the "Villains" series. It's not called that because there are distinct villains, but because everyone is a bit of a villain.


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments I finished it!!!!!

True that everyone is a villain in this world just different levels.

I really liked it though not as much as Vicious because I didn't feel that level of suspense from it (that or I'm being influenced by my book hnagover for ACOSF).

But that said it's not as bad as what I've seen other people say. That said by the end, I wasn't much of a fan of June anymore because she drugged Sydney. No one lays a finger to her! And also June kinda reminded me of Addie LaRue for a sec because of the freckles.

Also side note, just make sure that you go into ACOSF knowing it's really character-driven and a lot of smutty scenes cause I've seen people saying that it was boring/too much smut just so you go into it with the right expectations.


Alex (The Scribe Owl) | 249 comments YTJFEUH THE FRECKLES

I think I liked this one more! I normally enjoy the later books in the series more than the first, but only so that I have time to get attached to the characters.

Yeah, my copy of ACOSF just came! I opened it to a random page and...LOTS of smut.


✨Emily (emilouie014) | 176 comments Normally that is me too. But I really loved Vicious so it just didn't hit the same bar particularly with the plot. IDK why but I loved the plot in Vicious more with the revenge storyline and finding more about EO's.

Yeah ACOSF is pretty much her "filthiest" book so far I think so go into it with that mindset.


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