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What do you think about news reporting in the US or wherever you are?
Please don't indulge Misery here; they're taking over threads with their discord and off-topic comments.
☘Misericordia☘ wrote: "I also sort of missed the US paying for the damages they wrongfully and in bad faith incurred to Iraq...."What are you talking about? We spent a massive fortune over those 20 years rebuilding both Iraq and Afghanistan. Does it make up for the loss of lives and the false pretenses we went in on? No. but to say we didn't pay for it all is pure misinformation.
USA Today removes 23 articles after reporter fabricated sourceshttps://nypost.com/2022/06/16/usa-tod...
This is good news. You must report facts that are with good sources.
I'm concerned that a national publication, which is certified by News Guard, published that much uncorroborated garbage at all.
Who would have thought that the liberal Bill Maher would be making so much sense? That's what I have against the liberals these days: they make no sense; there's no logic in what they say or do. As Maher says, "Democracy dies in dumbness." And we've been living in a world ruled by dumbness for a couple of years now.
Meet Kari Lake, former TV news anchor and current Republican gubernatorial candidate in the state of Arizona.https://www.karilake.com/
The reason that I bring her up is because of this exchange which she recently had with a CNN reporter.
https://youtu.be/NVarjcEcbjw
A little catty? Sure, but CNN had it coming.
Scout wrote: "Who would have thought that the liberal Bill Maher would be making so much sense? That's what I have against the liberals these days: they make no sense; there's no logic in what they say or do. As..."Bill Maher is a gadfly and always has been one. He irritates everyone eventually and I do think he is truly offended by what is happening right now. Just remember, you may agree with him now, but he will make you boil later.
Bari Weiss: New York Times editor wanted Schumer to OK op-ed by GOP Sen. Tim Scotthttps://nypost.com/2022/08/11/bari-we...
The FBI has released it's report on the firearm involved in the "Rust" shooting.FBI forensic report concludes Alec Baldwin pulled trigger on 'Rust' set: report
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...
I've noticed that when a conservative leaning source covers this their headline states that Baldwin squeezed the trigger, but the headlines in liberal sources don't name him as the shooter.
I know, Papa, I'll probably disagree with Maher tomorrow, as he's a liberal at heart. But he seems to have common sense at times.
Scout wrote: "I know, Papa, I'll probably disagree with Maher tomorrow, as he's a liberal at heart. But he seems to have common sense at times."I see him as a traditional Liberal and that the pendulum swings back and forth and he is what he remains, left of center, but not too far left. He drives me crazy about half the time, but is always entertaining. I do think it truly pains him his side is so out of control and that he would prefer it the other way around.
The Potato is leaving the building.CNN is ending 'Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter'
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/media/...
The Potato being taken to task by Michael Wolff:
https://youtu.be/RuKaDcsE2PA
J. wrote: "The FBI has released it's report on the firearm involved in the "Rust" shooting.FBI forensic report concludes Alec Baldwin pulled trigger on 'Rust' set: report
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme..."
Who else could have pulled the trigger?
I've wondered about this. You can fire a pistol by partially pulling back the hammer and letting it go. Could this be what happened?
Meteorologist Erick Adame Pens Apology After He's Fired for Appearing on Adult Webcam Websitehttps://people.com/human-interest/met...
Apparently, it became public when someone emailed clips from his videos to his employer and his mother.
Scout wrote: "I've wondered about this. You can fire a pistol by partially pulling back the hammer and letting it go. Could this be what happened?"With this revolver, that is almost impossible. He would need to have his finger on the trigger.
For those who are unfamiliar with the SAA, this is a great video of the firing sequence.
https://youtu.be/3rOs_2Jq6Yg
This video looks at Baldwin's BS.
https://youtu.be/d5NI1fTx8tI
Yep. Not sorry to see it go. But we still have CBS, NBC, ABC doing partisan "news." I'm happy to see that the realization has dawned that CNN was basically an arm of the Democratic Party.
MSNBC is in trouble too. They're ratings are about where CNN's were 6 years ago, while Fox News continues to grow its audience. Rachel Maddow's show used to give Fox's top program a run for its money, but now MSNBC is lucky if they get one program in the top 10 for cable news programming. It's so bad, they started blitzing the radio with ads in the last couple weeks - they never needed to advertise themselves before.
I do have to say that Fox is number one because they're the only outlet that conservatives and independents can look to for their news. There are many outlets that cater to the left, so the viewership is split among them -- that includes all the major networks, which only report the news that liberals want to see, omitting anything detrimental to Biden and the Democrats. For example, anything to do with the open border or Hunter Biden or Biden's obvious mental decline.
Fox News just posted the latest ratings if you're curious how it's going for them, CNN, and MSNBChttps://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-new...
FN averages more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined, and they average more viewers in the key 25-54 demographic than the two combined.
The funny thing is CNN attracts more younger views than MSNBC despite trailing MSNBC badly in their overall ratings.
Layoffs to Hit CNN as CEO Chris Licht Tells Staff That Restructuring “Will Accelerate” Soonhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/...
This should probably go in one of the Ukraine threads, but my complaint is more at the media. Just caught a meme about Iranian troops in Ukraine, so just did a quick search to see how much truth there was in there. Iran sent troops to Crimea to teach the Russians how to use the drones they just sold them. But most of the headlines that come up in the search make it sound like the Iranians are there for actual combat."Iranian troops are one the ground in Ukraine!..."
J.J. wrote: "....But most of the headlines that come up in the search make it sound like the Iranians are there for actual combat...."Yes, the bombastic headlines often turn misleading, if one wants to get the gist of the events from the headline alone... However, russia attempts to recruit fighters from anywhere, incl. syria and former Iraq commandos, so we might as well see Iranians on the battlefield. Also, Iranians, operating drones that hit Ukraine, if they do, take part in combat.
Then again, Ukraine has a "foreign legion", a but like the war in Spain in the 1930s. The Western countries are training Ukrainians. Iran's contribution is small in comparison.As for reporting, we get very little information. Neither side is telling very much.
Naturally. Democracies support a fellow democracy to repel an onslaught, while dictators' club supports a fellow tyrant. It's us versus them
Which raises the question, what is the news supposed to do: support your side or inform? Obviously, if your side is in the conflict there is a point about timeliness: one would hardly have expected the Japanese press to inform their people the Japanese Nave was shortly going to make a sneak attack on Pearl Harbour. But after the attack, the US press gave a clear account of the losses.The Ukrainian sources do not inform about anything adverse to Ukraine, and I have no idea of the Russian news because we don't get it because it is blocked. The day I was born, my father saved a newspaper report on the situation in WW II (and it was grim). We don't get that about Ukraine. So, in my opinion news reporting has deteriorated badly. On Quora, there was a comment from someone who claimed ot be Ukrainian (I am not doubting - I merely have no way of verifying) that the Ukrainian government has passed a law to suppress news adverse to Ukrainian morale
Also, what little we do get appears to be from the Ukrainian POV, but it is not necessarily true. For example, on our TV news last night there was an item stating the attack on Kherson was being held up by the weather, and showed pictures of "the front". The pictures showed troops moving forward (presumably) past "dead" tanks pointing in the same way as the troop movement. The weather was sunny, the grass was green, and the road was dry. In short, the comment either made no sense, or the picture did not relate to what was currently going on. That is at best misleading, hence my comment on the poor quality of news reporting.
Ian wrote: "...the Ukrainian government has passed a law to suppress news adverse to Ukrainian morale..."That's simply not true. When there were russian successes (admittedly a long while ago), they reported accordingly. Yes, they don't provide the actual number of losses and release military operation updates with a delay. Other than that, reporting is pretty accurate. A huge difference from russian sources, which I check daily too.
You have an access to an rt website, for I remember you were posting links to it, after claiming that you were supposedly unable to get it. So, come on now.
Finally, our mainstream media is having to acknowledge that there's a border problem. That's because the Texas and Florida governors sent migrants to New York and Washington, and they're finally getting a taste of what it's like for the folks on our southern border. The ones who've been dealing with it since Biden was elected and opened the border to migrants from all countries without providing resources to handle the influx. It's about time everyone in the country realized that the border is a problem, not just financially, but as a source of drugs that kill our citizens because the Cartel is in charge down there.
In October and November of 2020, CBS was one of the media outlets screaming that the Hunter Biden Laptop story was Russian disinformation. Two years and the mid-term later:Copy of Hunter Biden laptop data appears genuine, independent experts find
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/copy-of...
I wonder whose side they're on.
J. wrote: "In October and November of 2020, CBS was one of the media outlets screaming that the Hunter Biden Laptop story was Russian disinformation. Two years and the mid-term later:Copy of Hunter Biden la..."
They should not be on any side, but the truth.
It was obvious to many of us that the mainstream press, as well as all the social media sites, were suppressing information in order to get Joe elected. I get it. They wanted to be rid of Trump, and they helped to do that by interfering with the election process (a crime, by the way). But I think it's cost us more than they anticipated, having Joe as president.
Well, network news and cable news, except for Fox, are ignoring what Musk has been releasing about government pressuring Twitter to suppress the Hunter laptop story before the 2020 election. They're trying to make the story go away because, guess what, news networks were also colluding with the government to suppress the story. Not a good look for them - illegal tampering with an election. I'm interested to see if the machine can kill the story.
Just wait until after the first of the year and the new Congress starts up the investigations. Then we shall see if there is anything to this story.
WaPo was one of the loudest voices on the "Orange Man Bad" bandwagon. Now that he is, mostly, out of the running...The Washington Post will conduct layoffs, its publisher says at contentious town hall
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/media/...
I hope we do, indeed, find out whether the Democrats had a hand in directing the FBI to influence social media and traditional media outlets to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story. If they do find the truth, I'm not holding my breath that it will be reported by the media: they're not going to cut their own throats and will try to make the story go away. Thanks for the link, J. That walking away and not answering questions tactic is one our president uses frequently. As outrageous as Trump was at times, I can't imagine him walking away from reporters' questions in such a cowardly manner. When Biden does it, I always feel that he's turning his back on and showing contempt for half the country.
The Munk Debates recently hosted Matt Taibbi and others to debate the resolution, "don't trust mainstream media".https://youtube.com/watch?v=3vkgROIIN...
Thanks for that link, J. I listened to the entire debate, and Matt Taibbi kicked butt. A poll was taken of the audience of 20,000 people before the debate. Those who didn't trust mainstream media: 48% After the debate: 67% agreed mainstream media can't be trusted. This is worth listening to, especially if you think mainstream media isn't biased in favor of the political party in power.
Personally, I thought that Douglas Murray was the true standout of the debate.Malcolm Gladwell absolutely shamed himself by being everything we've come to expect from his peer group.
Matt Taibbi and Michelle Goldberg were about on par with Taibbi having the edge, in my opinion.
I'm glad you enjoyed the debate, Scout.
One more way in which conservative voices are being silenced:https://youtube.com/watch?v=mJeyyAK8c...
In the United States I would say our news reporting is lousy. Biased and left leaning. I rarely even watch the news these days, and prefer to read trusted journalists.
Do y'all remember how the MSM kept prattling on about Russian bots? It turns out that they got that BS from a group called Hamilton 68. Twitter actually checked Hamilton 68's claims and determined that they were BS. But Twitter didn't want to go against the "Orange Man Bad" narrative.Twitter Files #15
MOVE OVER, JAYSON BLAIR: TWITTER FILES EXPOSE NEXT GREAT MEDIA FRAUD∆
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/16...
I suspect there is going to be a blood letting in the near future as more and more of poor reporting and hoaxes come to light. No clean hands.
The video J. posted in message 394 is such a bunch of gobbledegook. I think the way conservative media is cancelled is meant to be so convoluted that no one can understand it. Yet it's effectively silencing conservative media.
I was thinking today that most people probably don't know that Trump was not in collusion with Russia. There were all those accusations, and then there was proof that none of it was true. But did the media outlets that reported this BS ever publicly admit that there was no truth to the stories? Why, when liberal media gets it all wrong, do they never set the record straight?
Matt Taibbi testified before Congress about the Twitter Files. The Dems on the committee spent their time attacking Taibbi's status as a journalist and trying to smear Musk. This is just a taste.https://youtube.com/watch?v=vEeaVOzqw...
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