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What do you think about news reporting in the US or wherever you are?
Papaphilly wrote: "OK, who replaced Beau with this guy????? 8^)"
It was your powerful arguments that converted me from a Tulsi Gabbard type of American Democrat politician into a hardcore supporter of Ron DeSantis and Rand Paul :)
It was your powerful arguments that converted me from a Tulsi Gabbard type of American Democrat politician into a hardcore supporter of Ron DeSantis and Rand Paul :)
And then there are those moments when the media becomes the news...REF: (Twitter): https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/stat...
Video of MSNBC/NBC staff attempting to explain to a cop why they are following a bus load of jurors...
Lot's of Ums and Errs ensue.
Jeffrey Epstein visited the Clinton White House at least 17 times. Is anyone surprised?https://nypost.com/2021/12/02/jeffrey...
Scout wrote: "Jeffrey Epstein visited the Clinton White House at least 17 times. Is anyone surprised?https://nypost.com/2021/12/02/jeffrey..."
He was a billionaire. That provides access alone.
Wild Bill did rent out the Lincoln bedroom to his "friends". Probably a lot of the same "friends" who donated to the Clinton Foundation.http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/0...
Is it time to reassess QAnon? Are they a group who are in the know rather than a bunch of crazy conspiracists? They made these accusations before the public had even heard of Ghislaine Maxwell. Should the Shamen be given a pardon and offered an honoury place in Congress?
Beau wrote: "Is it time to reassess QAnon? Are they a group who are in the know rather than a bunch of crazy conspiracists? They made these accusations before the public had even heard of Ghislaine Maxwell. Sho..."Are you kidding?
I don't know, Papaphilly. I'm hoping you can help me make up my mind.
Thing is, QAnon predicted exactly what is now being examined in court before the public had even heard of Epstein or Maxwell. They even named names and those names are being mentioned in said courtroom. Did they hazard a wild, lucky guess or did they know something?
What do you think and why?
Thing is, QAnon predicted exactly what is now being examined in court before the public had even heard of Epstein or Maxwell. They even named names and those names are being mentioned in said courtroom. Did they hazard a wild, lucky guess or did they know something?
What do you think and why?
Following withdrawal of Biden nominee, the New York Times publishes actual fake newshttps://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...
Beau wrote: "I don't know, Papaphilly. I'm hoping you can help me make up my mind.Thing is, QAnon predicted exactly what is now being examined in court before the public had even heard of Epstein or Maxwell. ..."
They are crazy conspiracists. As far as I know, I have not heard of any charges brought by them or accusations other then the Trump stuff.
Of course, he did.Chris Cuomo sought to discredit Fox News' Janice Dean for speaking out on brother's nursing home scandal
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-c...
I read that and had to laugh. No president has been treated worse or more unfairly by the media than Trump. Whereas Biden gets a pass on everything by the mainstream media. If they treated Biden like they did Trump, they'd be questioning him about his financial relationship to Hunter. They'd be asking him how it's okay to have an open border and how that's affecting citizens who live on the border as well as the country at large. They'd be reminding him that there are still Americans in Afghanistan. They'd be reporting on how his weakness is affecting international relationships with Russia and China. And so many other questions that they just don't ask. What a joke to say that they're harder on Biden than Trump.
Scout wrote: "I read that and had to laugh. No president has been treated worse or more unfairly by the media than Trump. Whereas Biden gets a pass on everything by the mainstream media. If they treated Biden li..."As much as I tend to be a bit more even keeled on media treatment, even I have to acknowledge how easy the media has been on Biden. I do agree if that would have been a Trump child and not Hunter Biden, the media would have been all over it.
If Donald Trump Jr. was drummed out of the Navy for being a crackhead; knocked up a stripper while dating his brother's widow; committed perjury by falsifying a federal affidavit, in order to illegally buy a gun; held a series of do nothing jobs with companies which had interests in influencing US policy, while his father was in office; accepted millions of dollars in investment capital from the Bank of China, AKA the CCP; and set up an obvious bribe laundering scheme through art sales...The MSM talking heads would be leading the angry mobs to Don Jr's front door.
Hunter got top cover and a book deal. Beautiful Things: A Memoir
Thanks for that link. It's really what we all know. Press conferences are rigged, and the people aren't represented. The questions we have aren't asked or answered. When Biden's asked an impromptu question, he says he'll get in trouble for answering it. In trouble with whom? Since when does someone have power over what the president can say? Who's really in power? He's made it clear that it's not him.
Travel and tourism expected to grow to $8.6 trillion in 2022https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/pa...
Apparently, CNN doesn't expect you to read the article. If you read the article, you would read that it is "growing" to a level slightly lower than pre-pandemic. Therefore it is not growth, it is a rebound, and the headline is a lie.
I think in fairness many people consider something of value x is growing when dx/dt is positive. Even more so when d^2x/dt^2 is positive.
Scout wrote: "Don't you wish people would respond when you make a great point instead of skipping right over it?"It happens all the time :-) You get used to it.
The holy mantra of journalism is , “who, what, where, when and sometimes, how.” The NYT, WaPo, The LA Times, PBS, CNN, FOX News, CBS, ABC, NBC and MSNBC have as much “wwww and h integrity” as Pravda, Izvestia or Hitler’s Völkischer Beobachter.
American news is nothing but boob tube bobbleheads babbling “blah, blah, blah…blah, blah, blah…blah, blah, blah.
My liberal friends get all their info from network news, CNN, and MSNBC - the ones who blatantly helped Biden get elected. Can they be counted on to report his failures? That would mean admitting they backed the wrong horse, which they'll never do.
The Washington Post's op-ed is behind a pay wall.Washington Post editorial board admits Hunter Biden story is a 'reckoning' for media
https://www.foxnews.com/media/wapo-ed...
The Washington Post is an example of why people don't care if newspapers go extinct.
J. wrote: "The Washington Post's op-ed is behind a pay wall.
Washington Post editorial board admits Hunter Biden story is a 'reckoning' for media
https://www.foxnews.com/media/wapo-ed......"
I mentioned the WP as an e.g. of a high-quality media outlet on the Ukraine thread but was only being polite to Americans because I couldn't think of another ;)
Washington Post editorial board admits Hunter Biden story is a 'reckoning' for media
https://www.foxnews.com/media/wapo-ed......"
I mentioned the WP as an e.g. of a high-quality media outlet on the Ukraine thread but was only being polite to Americans because I couldn't think of another ;)
Mainstream media is finally having to report on Hunter Biden's laptop, which they previously ignored and called "Russian disinformation." Having to eat their words now.
For those of you who don't know me, I'm English. I'm grateful for this but am becoming increasingly baffled by the direction of the Western world, particularly our 'quality' media.
Where has all the objective reporting gone? Why all the juvenile propaganda, cover ups and obvious bias to one particular point of view?
Anyway, over recent months, I've been getting more and more impressed by 2 non-Anglophile mainstream media outlets: France 24 and Russia Today. The latter might set alarm bells ringing for some of you but I urge you to give them both a go with an open mind. While they inevitably have their own bias (we all do), their attempts at objectivity and impartialty really do put the BBC, CNN and the like to shame:
https://www.france24.com/en/
https://www.rt.com/
Feel free to thank me in a few months' time, when you realise that you've never been better informed about what's going on in the world :)
Where has all the objective reporting gone? Why all the juvenile propaganda, cover ups and obvious bias to one particular point of view?
Anyway, over recent months, I've been getting more and more impressed by 2 non-Anglophile mainstream media outlets: France 24 and Russia Today. The latter might set alarm bells ringing for some of you but I urge you to give them both a go with an open mind. While they inevitably have their own bias (we all do), their attempts at objectivity and impartialty really do put the BBC, CNN and the like to shame:
https://www.france24.com/en/
https://www.rt.com/
Feel free to thank me in a few months' time, when you realise that you've never been better informed about what's going on in the world :)
Sure, RT is a proud heir of Soviet times Pravda, if you are interested in a parallel reality, you can give it a try
Then it shows Russia is improving. I am afraid I cannot say that the Western Press is improving, but rather it is degrading, descending more and more into opinion pieces. Simply presenting the facts seems to have gone out of fashion in the West, probably because pandering to what people want to hear is what sells copy.
Beau wrote: "For those of you who don't know me, I'm English. I'm grateful for this but am becoming increasingly baffled by the direction of the Western world, particularly our 'quality' media. Where has all ..."
If the Editor in Chief of RT, Margarita Simonyan, is as trustworthy as the rats at CNN, MSNBC, BBC, and many others, that just means she's another creature wallowing in the cesspool.
Did Ukraine invade Russia?
Are Russian cities being bombed?
Are Russian non-combatants being murdered in their own homes?
J. wrote: "Beau wrote: "For those of you who don't know me, I'm English. I'm grateful for this but am becoming increasingly baffled by the direction of the Western world, particularly our 'quality' media. W..."
To the best of my knowledge, and bearing in mind we can't get it now, I would guess RT would answer no to those questions, except (2). It will have reported the Ukrainian use of Tochka U missiles, some of which have hit Belgorod.
AP roasted for tweet criticizing Elon Musk over ‘freedom of speech’https://nypost.com/2022/05/12/ap-roas...
Thanks for the video, J. I didn't watch it all, but what I took away was that some things reported as fact are subsequently proved to be untrue, yet the effect of the original report remains if people want to believe it's true. Confusing world we live in.
J. wrote: "Are Russian cities being bombed?" Sure they are and have been since 2014: Donetsk and Lugansk and the bunch of smaller towns and villages around them can be safely considered to be at least 50% Russian cities in the sense of the population there being about that % Russian. Probably more (up to 70-80%) but no less.Theese cities have been shelled by the Ukrainian army since 2014 non-stop. Quite a lot of buildings and infrastructure have been rebuilt mupltiple times during this period.
Scout wrote: "Mainstream media is finally having to report on Hunter Biden's laptop, which they previously ignored and called "Russian disinformation." Having to eat their words now."Timeliness also should count. Media not reporting stuff when it's most salient and coming back to stuff like that as an afterthought damages reporting no matter how much they say sorry after.
That's like Iraq and Powell's vial of piss: you can't unbomb Iraq after media catches up with the truth finally, years later. I also sort of missed the US paying for the damages they wrongfully and in bad faith incurred to Iraq.
So, the media owning up to stuff after the deed's done is still misinformation mission accoplished. Maybe not an A but B+ definitely.
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