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2021 The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas
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It's always amusing when they're talking about their "toilet". I'm aware that basically means your clothes and grooming but still sounds weird.


Yes--toilet was originally a euphemism.


I eventually had to look up a character diagram for Monte Cristo to keep them all straight, but it did have spoilers in it.

Good to know! In Canada we say bathroom or washroom, but are familiar enough with Americans to know restroom (in fact, some stores switched to restroom signs for American tourists), but these are just the normal terms--to us the toilet is the actual thing you sit on and not the room (I never even heard of the term commode growing up).
FYI:
The term restroom derived from the fact that in early 1900s through to the middle of the century up-scale restaurants, theatres and performing facilities would often have comfortable chairs or sofas located within or in a room directly adjacent to the actual toilet and sink facilities for patrons to relax away from the event.
The term restroom derived from the fact that in early 1900s through to the middle of the century up-scale restaurants, theatres and performing facilities would often have comfortable chairs or sofas located within or in a room directly adjacent to the actual toilet and sink facilities for patrons to relax away from the event.
Lesle wrote: "FYI:
The term restroom derived from the fact that in early 1900s through to the middle of the century up-scale restaurants, theatres and performing facilities would often have comfortable chairs or..."
That's interesting. When I was a really little kid I remember my mom taking me into a women's bathroom with a couch in it lol. I think it was in some department store.
The term restroom derived from the fact that in early 1900s through to the middle of the century up-scale restaurants, theatres and performing facilities would often have comfortable chairs or..."
That's interesting. When I was a really little kid I remember my mom taking me into a women's bathroom with a couch in it lol. I think it was in some department store.
I do not remember any personally but we didnt go into the cities very often when I was growing up, but I do remember them in some of the older movies.
I also remember department stores in Baton Rouge having couches and big comfy chairs in part of the bathrooms.

I first read The Count of Monte Cristo when i was about 8, i bought a second hand copy and it was mine all mine. I was also reading The Arabian Nights at the same time.
Fast forward to a couple years ago when I got some Barnes and Nobles classics and read The Arabian Nights followed directly by The Count of Monte Cristo.
I think Dumas must have been fascinated by those tales. And I would recommend that everyone reads both books so they can see how the stories intertwine.
Yes, J.Sebastian. Feel free to discuss the book in this thread. Give spoiler warnings or block them out with the appropriate formatting (that I currently am unsure of!).

I've read about a quarter. It is getting very exciting. And I also want to read Arabian Nights. Perhaps it could be a group read for next year? :) I'm not sure whether we've read it here.

I would recommend reading them alongside each other perhaps? You can probably find one online, and if you want to buy a beautiful edition I recommend the barnes and nobles leather bound classic (i got mine on ebay).
A number of English-language translations of The Count of Monte Cristo entered circulation in the years following the story’s initial publication. An unabridged interpretation of the text reached England in the mid-1800s via the good graces of Emma Lavinia Gifford, the wife of novelist Thomas Hardy.
Not sure where everyone is at, but wondering what you think about the way Dumas writes of Edmond’s time in prison as if it were almost like a death?

During that time he suffered the death of his youth.

Jazzy wrote: "Well, it was like exactly like death. A long, slow, torturous death. No one knew where he was, he had no means of communicating with anyone on the outside. He was put away to rot and moulder. He co..."
Ah, Jazzy, you said it so well. Edmond suffered the death of his youth.
Ah, Jazzy, you said it so well. Edmond suffered the death of his youth.
Did you know that Dumas was well known as a travel writer before writing fiction?
He painted exciting portraits of exotic places for us in this tale.
What did you think about his descriptive writing?
He painted exciting portraits of exotic places for us in this tale.
What did you think about his descriptive writing?

The term restroom derived from the fact that in early 1900s through to the middle of the century up-scale restaurants, theatres and performing facilities would often have comfort..."
Yes, those were common in some large department stores. They used to have them in the local Macy's women's rooms before it closed. It was an adjoining room (but no doors between). I have a memory of something like this in Vancouver, BC as well.
They also have two like this in the Jordan Hall building of the New England Consevatory, but instead of a couch there are comfortable chairs. Downstairs it's in a round room that is in between the bathroom and a door to the area right in front of the orchestra section of the actual Jordan Hall (there are two other halls in this building plus many other rooms), but they keep it locked when going out of the bathroom area. The upstairs one is more boring.

When I started reading I wasn't expecting the story would kick off immediately, the fact that it was fast-paced made it easier to read.


Yes that was a bit confusing ( there are other similar chapters ) but keep reading and everything will start to connect and make sense.
Georgina wrote: "I'm a little late to the party, but I've started now too :)"
No problem Georgina! Gracefully showing up is ok with us! Enjoy!
No problem Georgina! Gracefully showing up is ok with us! Enjoy!

Jazzy wrote: "Fast forward to a couple years ago when I got some Barnes and Nobles classics and read The Arabian Nights followed directly by The Count of Monte Cristo.
I think Dumas must have been fascinated by those tales. And I would recommend that everyone reads both books so they can see how the stories intertwine."
That's interesting. I've never read The Arabian Nights.
I'd really like to know about the missing years of his life.
Lesle wrote: "“Wait and hope”
Thoughts on this quote?"
Pretty pointless if you ask me.
I think Dumas must have been fascinated by those tales. And I would recommend that everyone reads both books so they can see how the stories intertwine."
That's interesting. I've never read The Arabian Nights.
I'd really like to know about the missing years of his life.
Lesle wrote: "“Wait and hope”
Thoughts on this quote?"
Pretty pointless if you ask me.
Here is the complete quote:
“There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, Morrel, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of life.
" Live, then, and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget, that until the day God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these two words, 'Wait and Hope.”
― Alexandre Dumas
“There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best able to experience supreme happiness. We must have felt what it is to die, Morrel, that we may appreciate the enjoyments of life.
" Live, then, and be happy, beloved children of my heart, and never forget, that until the day God will deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is contained in these two words, 'Wait and Hope.”
― Alexandre Dumas

“There is neither happiness nor misery in the world; there is only the comparison of one state with another, nothing more. He who has felt the deepest grief is best abl..."
It's a pithy quote, and even if I don't quite agree with it, it's not totally wrong, either.
I take it to mean surrender yourself to higher powers, And while I'm definitely not a very proactive person I don't agree with that.
Funny how we all look at this quote differently.
I read it as: You do not understand true happiness in life without severe loss and grief.
Waiting on God to decide when to give us a clear picture of the future.
Wait and Hope: Wait on God and Hope for true happiness.
It might have to do with my loss of both my parents within a year and a half and the difficulty I still experience in finding peace for me to think this way.
I read it as: You do not understand true happiness in life without severe loss and grief.
Waiting on God to decide when to give us a clear picture of the future.
Wait and Hope: Wait on God and Hope for true happiness.
It might have to do with my loss of both my parents within a year and a half and the difficulty I still experience in finding peace for me to think this way.
Lesle wrote: "Funny how we all look at this quote differently.
I read it as: You do not understand true happiness in life without severe loss and grief.
Waiting on God to decide when to give us a clear picture..."
Love your interpretation on "Wait and Hope", Lesle. I can relate to it, too.
I read it as: You do not understand true happiness in life without severe loss and grief.
Waiting on God to decide when to give us a clear picture..."
Love your interpretation on "Wait and Hope", Lesle. I can relate to it, too.


Yeah I had a week off and I finished.
I must have read an abridged version in high school. No wat we read 1200 pages.
I must have read an abridged version in high school. No wat we read 1200 pages.
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