[2021] Poll 19 Voting

[Johanne]

... ethanol is also the main ingredient in hand sanitizer, so you could read a contemporary book about the times we're living in.

[Johanne]

... well in most hand sanitizer, you can make it other ways, but that's the most common.

[Jill]

List of cocktail names
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...

[Thomas]

Regarding the question of what one could read for 21st blank prompt. It could be related to anything 21st so if the alcohol didn’t get in you could use it for something like that ( 21st amendment) or if the 21st element thing did not get in you could use it for that too. Some other examples:
A book written or set in the 21st century.
A book published the year of your 21st birthday
Or anything else related to anything 21st

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

VOTE HERE: https://www.surveymoz.com/s/G504YP/

[Thomas]

In the end I added the mineral prompt to my down votes ( I just don't get the science)

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

It was an easier vote for me. I had two I definitely wanted to downvote and 4 I wanted to upvote, then filled in an extra one on each side for a 5/3 vote.

Upvotes were:
- mode of communication (really wanted to documents prompt to get in so I thought this would be a good one)
- non-British royalty (the extra upvote, but I think it will be easy to fill with a fantasy book)
- long book (always need that push, and a prompt makes me feel like I'm not wasting time)
- something lost (an easy one to fill with a quest book or a mystery or a the-one-that-got-away romance)
- two decades (love a good multiple perspective book, and also flashback books)

[Ron]

Queen Sugar as non British royalty?

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

Technically, it's not about actual royalty. But I could see that as a KIS option.

[Riley]

I love the Fibonacci sequence and non-British royalty prompts. Definitely got votes from me.

[Kathy Jo]

The Royal Albert prompt doesn't need to be about music- Allan Ginsburg, Bill Clinton, Arthur Conan Doyle, Ernest Shackelford, and Buzz Aldren are amongst the guests!

[Nancy]

Here's my thinking - A book related to 21st could be used for some of the other prompts - scandium/nickel/brass, and alcohol. So I'm not going to vote for all 3. I loved Scandium when it was first suggested but I don't love it this time when combined with nickel and brass or the mineral aspect.

As of now my upvotes are Fibonacci, Google Doodle, religious organization, communication, a long book, and related to 21st.

Flowers or greenery on the cover is a maybe, as is Royal Albert Hall.

[Jill]

Kathy Jo wrote: "The Royal Albert prompt doesn't need to be about music- Allan Ginsburg, Bill Clinton, Arthur Conan Doyle, Ernest Shackelford, and Buzz Aldren are amongst the guests!"

Prince Albert. For those who want British Royalty

[Avery]

Some of my thoughts on the Fibonacci Sequence.

I really want the Fibonacci Sequence prompt to get it. I don't think it's a prompt just about a number. It specifically relates to the year 2021, and it could be about a number, or about the pattern of numbers, which is unique. I really like the idea of doing the 1-1-2 syllable pattern, which uses the first three numbers of the sequence. That's super creative.

I also like the idea of finding books that relate to the sequence itself. Here's the Wikipedia article that refers to the sequence in pop culture, including literature!

There's also this Wikipedia article that shows a bunch of applications/appearances for the Fibonacci Sequence... which include poker, pineapples, honeybees, flowers, rabbits...

[Avery]

I think using the "related to the 21st ________" prompt and filling in the blank with "element on the periodic table" is a great way to fit in Scandium for those that liked that prompt. Same for "wedding anniversary gift".

Also you could use the 21st prompt as related to the song September by Earth, Wind & Fire... "Do you remember / the 21st night of September?"

[Hannah]

Avery wrote: "Some of my thoughts on the Fibonacci Sequence.

I really want the Fibonacci Sequence prompt to get it. I don't think it's a prompt just about a number. It specifically relates to the year 2021, an..."

Good point! I had been thinking of this one as just a number prompt and that wasn't making it very appealing to me, even though I love the Fibonacci Sequence. But I looked at that Wikipedia article and it looks like I could read The Luminaries, so maybe I will vote for it after all.

[Nadine in NY]

Avery wrote: "Some of my thoughts on the Fibonacci Sequence.

I really want the Fibonacci Sequence prompt to get it. I don't think it's a prompt just about a number. It specifically relates to the year 2021, an..."



I like the prompt but how does it specifically relate to 2021? Is it just because 21 is in the sequence? or did I miss something?

[Jillian]

Irene wrote: "I have two definite downvotes for now:

- The book related to alcohol, because it's taboo for people of certain religions/cultures/backgrounds and I can't think of a KIS option that would stay away..."

I'm down-voting the name one for similar reasons. I think, it is too restrictive for some people and I really don't like prompts being tied that closely to me.

If for some reason, it does get in I really like The Invisible Library series by Genevieve Cogman and the main characters name is Irene.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

I have tried twice to do the survey but when I click Finish, nothing happens. I never had this problem before, is anyone else experiencing it?

**Edit** I tried again later & it worked. I had 6 upvotes and only 2 down (alcohol and family name due to issues others have evoked)

[Avery]

Nadine wrote: "I like the prompt but how does it specifically relate to 2021? Is it just because 21 is in the sequence? or did I miss something?"

Okay true, I guess I just meant 21 is a number... but I just did a little research and found another relation to 2021... kind of a stretch but... the Fibonacci Sequence was introduced in year 1202 which is 2021 backwards!!

"Fibonacci numbers are named after Italian mathematician Leonardo of Pisa, later known as Fibonacci. In his 1202 book Liber Abaci, Fibonacci introduced the sequence to Western European mathematics"

[Nadine in NY]

Avery wrote: "Nadine wrote: "I like the prompt but how does it specifically relate to 2021? Is it just because 21 is in the sequence? or did I miss something?"

Okay true, I guess I just meant 21 is a number... but I just did a little research and found another relation to 2021... kind of a stretch but... the Fibonacci Sequence was introduced in year 1202 which is 2021 backwards!! "


Brilliant!! I'll take it!!

[Becky]

For triangles, some other ideas are bermuda triangle, character triads (although that's a stretch), triangles as symbols (mountains in cartography, street signs, or something like Deathly Hallows that is specific to the fiction). Certain groups in Nazi concentration camps were labeled with triangle badges. I had also been originally thinking about other triangular numbers as well, but Fibonacci (which I also love as a prompt) is a richer source for those on the lower end, with slight triangle advantage if you want to select a book publishing year.

I'm pretty intrigued by a lot of these prompts and will need to put some thought into determining favorites.

[Alicia]

Avery, I love the Earth Wind and Fire reference for book related to the 21st. Depending on what else gets in I may use that interpretation.

Also, I did want the 21st ____ option to be a sort of catch all. There are a lot of great prompts this round and in the past that would fall under this. So if Scandium or alcohol or brass/nickel were where you wanted to go it can fit in this prompt.

[Pam]

Thanks Avery for the Wiki link for Fibonacci! There are 2 books listed that I want to read - The Luminaries and VALIS.

It’s going to be really interesting to see which prompts get through this time! Wish we could get more than 2.

[Ellie]

I voted for the Fibonacci one as I like the idea of using it as a cover prompt, finding something where it occurs in nature on the cover.

[Martha]

What happens if more than 2 prompts are voted in? Would we have a choice about which two prompts we'd want to use of the more than two that were at the top?

[Kelly Sj]

Some other ideas for triangle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_tr...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particl...

[Steve]

Martha wrote: "What happens if more than 2 prompts are voted in? Would we have a choice about which two prompts we'd want to use of the more than two that were at the top?"

I assume the mods will just cut it off at a top 2, even if a 3rd one would have made it in another week.

[Thomas]

Steve wrote: "Martha wrote: "What happens if more than 2 prompts are voted in? Would we have a choice about which two prompts we'd want to use of the more than two that were at the top?"

I assume the mods will ..."
That what i assume from the message at the top.

[Robin P, Orbicular Mod]

Steve wrote: "Martha wrote: "What happens if more than 2 prompts are voted in? Would we have a choice about which two prompts we'd want to use of the more than two that were at the top?"

I assume the mods will ..."

Yes, even if something comes in a close 3rd, it will just be the top 2. Hopefully there won’t be a tie! People may want to note prompts that didn’t quite make it for next year. (Or a reject challenge)

[Angie]

Apparently, Illinois was the 21st state to become a state. I might just do something set in Illinois if the prompt gets in.

Still don't know what I'm voting for. I have one definite upvote and one probable upvote. Everything else is still up in the air.

[Martha]

Thanks Steve, Thomas and Robin. I missed reading the very bottom of the top post.

[Angie]

Thanks everyone for the ideas on various prompts.

I wound up going 3 up/5 down. My upvotes were:

* Long book
* Set in two decades
* Royal Albert Hall

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

Y'all are correct... we are just going to take the top two. We haven't had a single pair of prompts tie in score throughout all of the polls we done, so let's just hope we don't get it this time lol.

[Steve]

Emily wrote: "Y'all are correct... we are just going to take the top two. We haven't had a single pair of prompts tie in score throughout all of the polls we done, so let's just hope we don't get it this time lol."

Welp, it sounds like it's been jinxed!

[eleen ✨]

omg this whole time I thought we had three more spots left! I’m counting 46 in the big list, plus 3 from Poll 18… granted maths has never been my strong suit 😂😂

[Alicia]

Are you missing one of the Read-A-Thon winners? "related to ice" and "warwick prize"?

[Ellie]

The last two prompts in the list on in the "[2021] Reading List - Introduction, Schedule, & FAQs" post are on the same line, if you were counting from there. I made the same mistake a few days ago.

[eleen ✨]

Ellie wrote: "The last two prompts in the list on in the "[2021] Reading List - Introduction, Schedule, & FAQs" post are on the same line, if you were counting from there. I made the same mistake a few days ago."

Ahh, it was this! I totally didn't notice, thanks Ellie & Alicia both <3
This is so exciting :))) Can’t wait for the list order to be posted

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

Ellie wrote: "The last two prompts in the list on in the "[2021] Reading List - Introduction, Schedule, & FAQs" post are on the same line, if you were counting from there. I made the same mistake a few days ago."

Whoops! That's fixed!

[Pamela, Arciform Mod]

annie wrote: "Irene wrote: "I have two definite downvotes for now:

- The book related to alcohol, because it's taboo for people of certain religions/cultures/backgrounds and I can't think of a KIS option that w..."

If you're in recovery, books about recovery and dealing with alcoholism also apply. As do books about temperence and there are probably books related to the religious taboo. It's against my religion but I don't mind reading about it.

[Irene]

Pamela wrote: "It's against my religion but I don't mind reading about it..."

I totally respect this, and won't complain if it does get in. But just because someone of a given religion is okay with it doesn't mean other members of the same religion are automatically okay with it as well, so I'm trying to tread carefully and consider my friends. I really love the 21st _____ prompt because people could easily use it for a book about alcohol even the alcohol prompt doesn't get in!

[[deleted user]]

Pamela wrote: "If you're in recovery, books about recovery and dealing with alcoholism also apply."

i am all for the prompt personally! i enjoy books set in the 1920s and speakeasies so i have a few books i could read for it, but i just wanted to raise a possible issue that might not have been considered. i can't speak from personal experience so i don't want to overstep but yes, there are KIS/BIO options for people. it will just depend on where they are on their recovery journey how comfortable they will be reading about the topic is all or participating in the discussions (etc)

[Thomas]

True Annie and I objected to the prompt without even thinking of that.

[Nicole]

I am downvoting the alcohol prompt, as well. Between religious issues that some people might have, and issues with alcohol that others might have, it doesn’t seem like a prompt that everyone could do comfortably. Coming from a family with a history of alcoholism, and having lost my father to alcoholism, I personally am not interested in the prompt. I also can’t imagine what my family members who are recovering alcoholics would find to read that wouldn’t be triggering in some way.

[Thomas]

Nicole wrote: "I am downvoting the alcohol prompt, as well. Between religious issues that some people might have, and issues with alcohol that others might have, it doesn’t seem like a prompt that everyone could ..."
that what I like about the 21st_ prompt. it means people who want to do the alcohol 21 connection can but other people with issues with it do not have to and can find another 21st to link it to.

[Nicole]

Thomas wrote: "that what I like about the 21st_ prompt. it means people who want to do the alcohol 21 connection can but other people with issues with it do not have to and can find another 21st to link it to. ”

I agree. “A book related to the 21st _____” is a good prompt that can encompass many ideas that have been suggested throughout the voting process, but might not have made it through. Like Alicia mentioned above, if people are set on a certain prompt that doesn’t make it through that deals with alcohol or Scandium or a few others like that, they can easily fit it in here without having to use that as their prompt that didn’t make it on the list. Then they could use that prompt to fit another prompt they liked that didn’t get voted in.

[Emily, Conterminous Mod]

Came here to post last call for voting, then realized we have another day. Pft. I'm too excited!

[Ali]

I totally understand the alcohol prompt reaction. I had a similar reaction to the blackjack/gambling prompt that was suggested earlier in the year.

I'm no expert on alcoholism but I do know about gambling addiction and I would be so sad if people struggling with these issues couldn't participate in a reading challenge without feeling forced to confront or discuss their very difficult personal issues.

[Rachel]

I went 4-4 again this time. I voted for mode of communication, non-British royalty, something lost, and flowers/greenery.

My downvotes were religious organization (even the broadened version feels kind of limiting), the 21st (way too broad for me), mineral, and Royal Albert Hall.