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message 51: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Brenda wrote: "I forget -- did I promise to let people know when I reviewed EXODUS? A grand case, btw, of the movie wandering far, far from the original book. Anyway, here is the link:
http://bookviewcafe.com/blo..."


Are you referring to the movie EXODUS: GODS AND MONSTERS?


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Owen O'Neill (owen_r_oneill) Matthew wrote: "Not yet. The zombies still haven't cleared out ;) ..."

I think that might be asking a bit much, at this point. I suspect we'll have zombies with us for sometime yet.

What is it with these things, anyway? Intellectual phase-locking? (That's pretty much a rhetorical question.)


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Amber Martingale | 662 comments Matthew wrote: "Owen wrote: "Leonie wrote: "Dystopia is currently the fad of all fads, (as were vampires/paranormal a couple of years prior to that)..."

Is the storm surge of vampires & werewolves abating? Might ..."


LOL. Good point.


message 54: by Amber (last edited Jan 23, 2015 12:00PM) (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Owen wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Not yet. The zombies still haven't cleared out ;) ..."

I think that might be asking a bit much, at this point. I suspect we'll have zombies with us for sometime yet.

What is it w..."


Yep. That's it. Of course one of the books that might have something to do with that is the parody titled PRIDE AND PREJUDICE AND ZOMBIES...which IS being made into a movie... .

I predict that the next phase lock will be sea monsters due to the parody novel titled SENSE AND SENSIBILITY AND SEA MONSTERS.


message 55: by Yoly (new)

Yoly (macaruchi) | 795 comments I think zombies jumped the shark a long time ago. They should let that go already.


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Yoly (macaruchi) | 795 comments Amber wrote: "Yoly wrote: "Amber wrote: "Regarding my previous reply: Looks like we were writing at the same time, Yoly.

If I 100% didn't like it, I wouldn't praise the few books in the genre I consider worth r..."


Is it this one?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...
I have it on my TBR already :)


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Yoly (macaruchi) | 795 comments Amber wrote: "Are you referring to the movie EXODUS: GODS AND MONSTERS? "

HUH?


message 58: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Yoly wrote: "Amber wrote: "Yoly wrote: "Amber wrote: "Regarding my previous reply: Looks like we were writing at the same time, Yoly.

If I 100% didn't like it, I wouldn't praise the few books in the genre I co..."


Yep. That's the one, Yoly.

I was asking Brenda about Exodus... .


message 59: by Brenda (new)

Brenda Clough (brendaclough) | 301 comments Yes, that's the one. New movie, starring Christian Bale (cruelly miscast) as Moses.


message 60: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Brenda wrote: "Yes, that's the one. New movie, starring Christian Bale (cruelly miscast) as Moses."

Was it really THAT bad, compared to the original source?


message 61: by Brenda (new)

Brenda Clough (brendaclough) | 301 comments It was terrible. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, starring Charlton Heston, covers the exact same material and is a better movie.


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Matthew Williams (houseofwilliams) | 156 comments Owen wrote: "Matthew wrote: "Not yet. The zombies still haven't cleared out ;) ..."

I think that might be asking a bit much, at this point. I suspect we'll have zombies with us for sometime yet.

What is it w..."


I hope so. Though I am a bit embarrassed to admit it, the whole zombies fad is kind of buttering my bread right now. And by intellectual phase locking, are you referring to a possible explanation for the zombie craze? Because that topic has been explored at length.


message 63: by Owen (new)

Owen O'Neill (owen_r_oneill) Matthew wrote: "I hope so. Though I am a bit embarrassed to admit it, the whole zombies fad is kind of buttering my bread right now. ..."

Go for it and don't be embarrassed. I'm being snarky there and I've never been a fan of zombies, but why should you not benefit from giving people something they want?

Matthew wrote: "by intellectual phase locking, are you referring to a possible explanation for the zombie craze? Because that topic has been explored at length ..."

Yes, and I know it has, which is why my question was rhetorical. I still don't have (nor have I found) a satisfactory explanation for it.


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Matthew Williams (houseofwilliams) | 156 comments Owen wrote: "Matthew wrote: "I hope so. Though I am a bit embarrassed to admit it, the whole zombies fad is kind of buttering my bread right now. ..."

Go for it and don't be embarrassed. I'm being snarky there..."


Well, I think its not so much the zombies themselves, but how they act as a framing device. Sure, there's plenty of subtext, how the modern world conditions people to cogs in the machine. But to me, the real interest lies in the survivalist instinct. Somehow, the idea that society is fragile and could come crashing down at a moment's notice just appeals to some primitive instinct. We'd all like to know how we'd fare when the chips were down and we'd like to ponder how we'd go about rebuilding.

Not only that, but the subject of how disasters bring out the best and worst in people is also something that's been featured very heavily in zombie tales - the good ones anyway. In all cases where this comes up, the real focus is on human nature, and how the greatest threat to a community of survivors comes not from the zombies, but from their fellow man. In the midst of a big ol' panic, some choose to stick together and preserve something beyond mere survival, whereas others will do whatever it takes just to stay alive.

Also, the whole idea of epidemics/pandemics, and how they can attack society right at the seems is also something that scholars have been exploring through literature for some time. I think that zombie fiction is in many ways just a continuation of stories that deal with nuclear holocaust, biological or chemical weapons, or viral outbreaks. It's exciting to think that the world we take advantage of could suddenly end, and how our true nature would be revealed as a result.


message 65: by Owen (new)

Owen O'Neill (owen_r_oneill) Matthew wrote: "Well, I think its not so much the zombies themselves, but how they act as a framing device...."

That is an excellent response to my badly expressed question. (I do not mean that in any ironic sense.) But since my question is way off topic here, it's probably best for me to get a handle on my wandering train of thought at this point and cease cluttering things up.


message 66: by Marina (new)

Marina Finlayson | 62 comments Matthew wrote: "We'd all like to know how we'd fare when the chips were down ..."

I'm quite sure I'd be toast within the first three minutes. That's probably why I don't much like post-apocalyptic/zombie-type stuff!


message 67: by Matthew (new)

Matthew Williams (houseofwilliams) | 156 comments Marina wrote: "Matthew wrote: "We'd all like to know how we'd fare when the chips were down ..."

I'm quite sure I'd be toast within the first three minutes. That's probably why I don't much like post-apocalyptic..."


I'm sure your skill set would come in mighty handy :) Perhaps to do as Owen suggested and get things back on track, I found that with AMC's The Walking Dead, the same rule applied. I enjoyed the show, but once I familiarized myself with the graphic novel, I found myself enjoying it less.


message 68: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Brenda wrote: "It was terrible. THE TEN COMMANDMENTS, starring Charlton Heston, covers the exact same material and is a better movie."

Well, Heston was simply a better actor than Christian Bale. Hell, even Fraser Heston, who played baby Moses, was a better actor!


message 69: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Marina wrote: "Matthew wrote: "We'd all like to know how we'd fare when the chips were down ..."

I'm quite sure I'd be toast within the first three minutes. That's probably why I don't much like post-apocalyptic..."


I don't, either...especially not when it's mashed up with a writer I ALREADY can't stand, like Austen... .


message 70: by Yoly (new)

Yoly (macaruchi) | 795 comments Amber wrote: "Well, Heston was simply a better actor than Christian Bale. Hell, even Fraser Heston, who played baby Moses, was a better actor!
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I like Christian Bale as an actor but as a human being....I hate that man.


message 71: by Yoly (new)

Yoly (macaruchi) | 795 comments Amber wrote: "I don't, either...especially not when it's mashed up with a writer I ALREADY can't stand, like Austen... "

:O
Why?


message 72: by Amber (new)

Amber Martingale | 662 comments Yoly wrote: "Amber wrote: "I don't, either...especially not when it's mashed up with a writer I ALREADY can't stand, like Austen... "

:O
Why?"


Why what, Yoly?


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