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Policies & Practices > Should interactive fiction/CYOA be NOT-A-BOOKed?

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message 1: by Dannii (new)

Dannii (curiousdannii) | 8 comments I recently saw on Twitter that an author was highly upset that their interactive novel VERSUS: The Lost Ones (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...) was marked NOT-A-BOOK. I think this edit was an error.

The guidance for NOT A BOOK do say that "video games" are not books, but there's a huge difference between Mario or Call of Duty and interactive fiction works like this one, which is a 123K word pure-text story.

We have lots of entries for printed CYOA stories, and we have lots of entries for books which have only been published digitally. I'd like to request that these interactive fiction works be allowed, as it seems unfair to exclude them while other interactive works which happened to be printed on paper get included. And it shouldn't necessarily be limited to purely text-only entries, illustrations should be okay too. The distinguishing feature should be whether the dominant medium is text.


message 2: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Aug 27, 2020 07:20PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Goodreads considers items like that games. They are not stand-alone books; they generally require subscriptions to a website or an app.


message 3: by Dannii (last edited Aug 27, 2020 07:29PM) (new)

Dannii (curiousdannii) | 8 comments No, it is stand-alone, there's no ongoing subscription, no in-app purchases like some video games, just a one-time purchase, like any other book.

But so I understand: would having an ongoing subscription fee be one of the reasons something shouldn't be on Goodreads? So an interactive story which is published for free would be okay, but one which requires a subscription wouldn't be? I guess that makes sense.


message 4: by Scott (new)

Scott | 8605 comments Any story that requires some kind of subscription is not valid for GR.


message 5: by Dannii (new)

Dannii (curiousdannii) | 8 comments Scott wrote: "Any story that requires some kind of subscription is not valid for GR."

What do you mean by "subscription"? I'm not sure how subscriptions are relevant to these interactive stories.


message 6: by Scott (new)

Scott | 8605 comments Something you have to sign up for.
I was just answering your question.


message 7: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Dannii wrote: "no in-app purchases like some video games"

Which confirms these are apps -- games -- not books.


message 8: by Dannii (new)

Dannii (curiousdannii) | 8 comments Which confirms these are apps -- games -- not books."

What? I said they *don't* have subscription features etc. How does that confirm they're games not books?


message 9: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Being a game is not dependent on being subscription-only. Those are two separate reasons not to be considered books on Goodreads.


message 10: by Dannii (last edited Aug 28, 2020 12:02AM) (new)

Dannii (curiousdannii) | 8 comments So what is the reason, considering that neither being a gamebook, nor only being published digitally, precludes other books from being on Goodreads? Please give us clear objective criteria that we can all use and apply.


message 11: by Dan (new)

Dan Fabulich | 1 comments These apps are gamebooks. They're games and they're books.

There are a whole bunch of gamebooks on Goodreads. https://www.goodreads.com/search?q=ga...

All of these gamebooks are books; some of them are apps, but those apps are still books.


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