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message 1: by Minnie (new)

Minnie (minniesmiscellanies) | 5 comments Everyman's Library editions (page counts taken from the website http://www.everymanslibrary.co.uk ):

His Dark Materials, ISBN 9781841593425, 1102p 1144p

Sanditon and Other Stories, ISBN 9781857152258, 536p (missing), first published 1996 1871

Sense and Sensibility, ISBN 9781857150513, 367p 408p

Pride and Prejudice, ISBN 9781857150018, 368p 408p

David Copperfield, ISBN 9781857150315, 1016p (missing)

Oliver Twist, ISBN 9781857151107, 428p 520p

Dracula, ISBN 9781841593302, 386p 440p

Frankenstein, ISBN 9781857150629, 234p 264p

other editions:

Lady Windermere's Fan, ASIN B004UJB03S, 152p 56p (source: www.amazon.de/Lady-Windermeres-Englis...)

The Count of Monte Cristo, ISBN 9780141392462, 1276p 1312p (source: www.penguin.co.uk/books/35482/the-cou...)

Die Tintenherz-Trilogie, ISBN 9783791504889, first published 1990 2011, 2080p (missing) (source: I own this set and counted and added the pages together)

Tintenherz, ISBN 9783833714214, 18p (missing)

Tintenblut, ISBN 9783833714221, 22p (missing)

Tintentod, ISBN 9783833721441, 23p (missing)


message 2: by Sandra (last edited Aug 17, 2020 07:32AM) (new)

Sandra | 25156 comments Minnie, we don't necessarily use the publisher for page numbers as they include things like excerpts of other books and ads for other authors.

We prefer to use Worldcat where possible as they are page numbers added to that database by actual librarians.

I'll check the editions you've listed.

If you own any of these volumes, apart from the German Inkheart Trilogy please advise.


message 3: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 25156 comments His Dark Materials, ISBN 9781841593425, 1102p stays as per Worldcat


Sanditon and Other Stories, ISBN 9781857152258, 502 pages as per Worldcat, first published to be determined.


Sense and Sensibility, ISBN 9781857150513, 416 pages as per Worldcat However, a GR librarian has that edition and states it is 367 pages, so it stays at 367.


Pride and Prejudice, ISBN 9781857150018, 408p Done as per Book Depository


David Copperfield, ISBN 9781857150315, 1016p (missing)
From many sources page numbers range from 877 to 932, unable to determine exact number unless someone has that edition. For an interim number going with Worldcat 891 pages.


Oliver Twist, ISBN 9781857151107, 428p stays as per Worldcat


Dracula, ISBN 9781841593302, 386p stays as per Worldcat


Frankenstein, ISBN 9781857150629, 234p stays as per Worldcat


other editions:

Lady Windermere's Fan, ASIN B004UJB03S, 56p as per amazon
Done


The Count of Monte Cristo, ISBN 9780141392462, 1276p stays as per Worldcat


Die Tintenherz-Trilogie, ISBN 9783791504889, first published 2011, 2080p (missing) (source: I own this set and counted and added the pages together)
Done, but first published 2008 not 2011. The original publication date is for the earliest published work.


Tintenherz, ISBN 9783833714214, 18p Done


Tintenblut, ISBN 9783833714221, 22p Changed to 23


Tintentod, ISBN 9783833721441, 23p Done


message 4: by Minnie (last edited Aug 17, 2020 08:36AM) (new)

Minnie (minniesmiscellanies) | 5 comments I own all of these books, that's why I noticed the incorrect page counts. The current numbers were probably just taken from the last page numbered with an Arabic numeral, but all of these books have prefaces numbered with Roman numerals as well (except for Lady Windermere's Fan and the Inkworld books), which is reflected in the page counts I have taken from the publishers' websites (I checked them against my copies and can confirm them).


message 5: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 25156 comments We don't include pages with Roman numerals.

This is from the Librarian Manual:
https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...


message 6: by lethe (last edited Aug 17, 2020 08:49AM) (new)

lethe | 13758 comments Minnie wrote: "I own all of these books, that's why I noticed the incorrect page counts. The current numbers were probably just taken from the last page numbered with an Arabic numeral, but all of these books hav..."

Introductions in Roman numerals should not be included in the page counts on Goodreads. The correct page number is the last page of the book belonging to the text (i.e. excluding previews and adverts).

ETA Also, I own that edition of His Dark Materials and can confirm first-hand that 1102 is the right page count according to Goodreads policy.


message 7: by Minnie (last edited Aug 17, 2020 08:53AM) (new)

Minnie (minniesmiscellanies) | 5 comments Thank you for clarifying! In that case, I have to go back and check which books have had the Roman numbered-introductions included in the page count (I seem to remember one or two cases I read in recent months).

re: David Copperfield
I can confirm 891 as being the last page with text (end of afterword).

re: Tintenherz-Trilogie
If I understood that right, then the original year should be 2003 when the first book of the series was published.


message 8: by lethe (new)

lethe | 13758 comments Sandra wrote: "Done, but first published 2008 not 2011. The original publication date is for the earliest published work."

Minnie wrote: "re: Tintenherz-Trilogie
If I understood that right, then the original year should be 2003 when the first book of the series was published."


Actually, with trilogies and omnibus editions, the original pub year should be the year the last published volume (in this case, #3) was first published.

Example: for an edition containing book 1 (first published 1991), book 2 (first published 1993) and book 3 (first published 1997), the original publication date would be 1997.


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