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Ah, Inferno... my old nemesis. This would be a big get for me too, congrats!
Inferno is a difficult find a good price. Part of the challenge with that one is the widespread fear it will not ever be reprinted in OHC. The book sold poorly when it came out and copies were remaindered to get rid of them cheaply. If Marvel lost money on the book and it sold poorly that is a very poor recipe for reprint hopes. I didn't realize it existed whenever it was printed, the lack of the word "omnibus" in the title likely hurt it's sales and recognition for some folks (like me at the time).
I did order The Complete Little Nemo book 1: https://www.amazon.com/Winsor-McCay-C...
It's back down to $17.61 on Amazon. If you have Prime I feel like Amazon is probably losing money sending this with two day shipping (they try to make up for it by not including any padding in the box with the book). I paid $23 when I ordered last week. It's now the largest book I own (Colossal Conan is still the thickest). I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the material based on what I've read so far.
I did order The Complete Little Nemo book 1: https://www.amazon.com/Winsor-McCay-C...
It's back down to $17.61 on Amazon. If you have Prime I feel like Amazon is probably losing money sending this with two day shipping (they try to make up for it by not including any padding in the box with the book). I paid $23 when I ordered last week. It's now the largest book I own (Colossal Conan is still the thickest). I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the material based on what I've read so far.

Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (longer run) with the same cover for $150, but the amazon listing says " 2 vol.". Any help is appreciated as I'm very interested in these and am unsure on the right way to go about it.

There are two volumes of "The Complete Little Nemo in Slumberland" put out by Taschen; Vol. one discussed above and the second you referenced. The second volume is much thicker, thus the price deference.
There is another series with a similar title put out by Fantagraphics I believe. They're cheaper but also a lot smaller. Six in that series.
Each set collects the same material, just in different formats.


ordered.
Erik wrote: "Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (longer run) with ..."
I suspect the current very inexpensive copy of Nemo we're talking about is reprint and there has not been a reprint of the second book, which is part of the reason it's very expensive. Taschen has the vol 1 book at $80 which is well under their original $200 price. I'd love to get a copy of volume 2 but in no hurry at the current Amazon prices... does volume two contain all the content of volume one plus additional content? That is what the Amazon solicit info seems to indicate.
I suspect the current very inexpensive copy of Nemo we're talking about is reprint and there has not been a reprint of the second book, which is part of the reason it's very expensive. Taschen has the vol 1 book at $80 which is well under their original $200 price. I'd love to get a copy of volume 2 but in no hurry at the current Amazon prices... does volume two contain all the content of volume one plus additional content? That is what the Amazon solicit info seems to indicate.
What's confusing me is amazons description. The first is 1905-1909 where as vol2 also starts with 1905.
Amazon does has a distinction in the description where Vol. 1 says, "of the finest . . . escapades" whereas Vol. 2 states "all"
All this leads me to the conclusion that the second volume is a complete compendium made after vol 1 and including vol1 in its printing.
I'll submit the question to Taschen too
Amazon does has a distinction in the description where Vol. 1 says, "of the finest . . . escapades" whereas Vol. 2 states "all"
All this leads me to the conclusion that the second volume is a complete compendium made after vol 1 and including vol1 in its printing.
I'll submit the question to Taschen too
Relstuart wrote: "Erik wrote: "Rel, there are a couple other Nemo's listed too when I search. I see the one you're talking about. Will the later years be offered in the future? Looks like there is a bigger one (long..."
I can confirm that the Vol 1 on Amazon is a second print. That's what it states on Taschen's site.
I can confirm that the Vol 1 on Amazon is a second print. That's what it states on Taschen's site.

Mad Tom wrote: "I almost wonder if Volume 2 is the entire series. It's 700 pages compared to Volume 1's mid 300. And Amazon lists (although perhaps incorrectly) different dimensions too, 14x18 v 15x20. I remember ..."
My first encounter with Nemo was the NES game . . . one of the best.
The amazon listing also says 2 Vol, not Vol 2. Maybe it is saying it is Two Volumes rather than just a Vol. 2.
My first encounter with Nemo was the NES game . . . one of the best.
The amazon listing also says 2 Vol, not Vol 2. Maybe it is saying it is Two Volumes rather than just a Vol. 2.

This is what I got from Taschen, "Yes, the stories contained in the 1905-1909 edition are also included in the Complete Collection of 1905-1927."
So here is my take away. If you want a true complete Little Nemo, the reprint volume that you can get on Amazon for $17, isn't going to cut it. But, you truly only need to buy the 1905-1927 to get them all . . . woohoo the completist can save $17.
If you just want some great Little Nemo stories, then just save the hunk of change the the true complete version will cost you and get an AMAZING deal with the reprint volume of just 1905-1909.
That being said, I'm going to get both. Even though the 1905-1909 is fully reprinted in the 1905-1927, it's sooo cheap. The 1905-1927 will be for me and my collection, and the 1905-1927 will go in the waiting room for my clients.
So here is my take away. If you want a true complete Little Nemo, the reprint volume that you can get on Amazon for $17, isn't going to cut it. But, you truly only need to buy the 1905-1927 to get them all . . . woohoo the completist can save $17.
If you just want some great Little Nemo stories, then just save the hunk of change the the true complete version will cost you and get an AMAZING deal with the reprint volume of just 1905-1909.
That being said, I'm going to get both. Even though the 1905-1909 is fully reprinted in the 1905-1927, it's sooo cheap. The 1905-1927 will be for me and my collection, and the 1905-1927 will go in the waiting room for my clients.

I'd say the cheaper volume is a great way to experience the material for those that aren't familiar with Nemo (like me before picking it up). If you really love it, go for the more expensive version. If you don't love it, I'm sure you can sell it on eBay and make a profit.




Fraction understands the family dynamics and the sense of adventure. 1/2 the issues are the family and kids in space/time travel and the other 1/2 is a replacement FF team full of dysfunction and nonsense (that's the Allred drawn part). Fraction brings in Yancy street and classic FF villains but finds ground between Stan Lee camp and Hickman serious. The art is predictably great. It's a comfortable size at 760 pages, well bound. I don't see this book on many people's shelves but it's out there cheap and if you like the FF or Fraction or Allred it's definitely worth a hard look.

Nickviola: Glad to hear you're liking it. I also grabbed it cheap, but haven't started reading it yet. I've read the luke warm reviews but hopefully I'll enjoy it as well.


And good looking out on that Fraction omnibus. Cheap!

I'm trying to get as much "cosmic" marvel as I can get, especially old/classic ones, but there's so many FF omnibus I don't know where to start...

That's good to hear! Like you I was a bit apprehensive with the reviews, but Fraction & Allred was just too tempting a combination.

That's a good question. It helps to know what I would think are some basic facts about the FF and their history because it enriches the read. Like one of the authors pops in as a character which can seem dumb unless you realize early marvel did this. And that Yancy street is a substitute for Delancey street (lower east side of NY) which has a very low level gang that would prank the Thing in the old Stan Lee comics and comes into play here. As with a lot of FF comics, inhumans come into play, particularly Medusa so a basic understanding of her and her family tree is the most helpful outside knowledge I guess. But as far as basic narrative thread, the story starts with a problem that is well explained and so far it seems like 750 contained pages trying to solve that problem and the adventures that it leads to. In that way, it's quite self contained so you don't need to know what else was going on in Marvel at the time it was published. As a place to start, I think both the old Stan Lee FF omnis are great if you can stomach silver age villains and the dialogue. The Byrne omnis are really wonderful, the price I think can be high on the first one but it's super thick so it's got a lot of reading and used copies are out there.
I pretty much agree with Nickviola on all points about knowing some basic facts and recommending the Lee/Ditko stuff. I've read the Fraction stuff and thought it was fine, some of it was very good, but never really outstanding. Personally, I'm not a fan of Bagley's art so that was a bit of a turnoff for me, but it's a decent read.

The thing is I re-started reading comics having the target to get enlightened by the role warlock, and mostly Thanos played in the Marvel Universe (yeah I'm a sucker for villains) but instead I get to know some pretty good characters/entities (cosmic) and now I want to collect comics regarding the cosmic universe I don't "like" that much comics regarding Cities/towns in danger, In more a guy to read IG type of danger.

The thing is I re-started reading comics having the target to get enlighten..."
Don't forget the ultimates. It's amazing, but leave that till last. Great new series.

I agree, he seems to have trouble with drawing heads. Which seems like a critical skill when drawing people.
Nickviola wrote: "Blindzider wrote: "I'm not a fan of Bagley's art..."
I agree, he seems to have trouble with drawing heads. Which seems like a critical skill when drawing people."
Yep, they generally seem to big for the body, and they are always drawn in one or two angles. I also find his bodies to be too skinny. Everyone looks small.
I agree, he seems to have trouble with drawing heads. Which seems like a critical skill when drawing people."
Yep, they generally seem to big for the body, and they are always drawn in one or two angles. I also find his bodies to be too skinny. Everyone looks small.

I've never read any of the original Ultimates stories - or anything from the Ultimate Universe other than what spilled over into Secret Wars - but as far as I'm aware, it doesn't share anything with those books other than the title.
Quick pitch: Ms America, Black Panther, Captains Marvel (Carol & Monica), Blue Marvel, and occasionally Galactus team up to face cosmic level threats (by which I mean the assorted pantheon of squabbling space gods - old & new - as opposed to various alien races at war), whilst keeping the NSA off their backs. But there's an over arching mystery throughout all of their adventures: what's happening with Eternity?
Rocafort provides some of the most striking art I've seen from a Marvel book, conjuring up classic-Kirby influenced, trippy cosmic spectacle with a sleek modern sheen. The writing is also better than anything else I've read by Ewing (I'm not a fan of New Avengers & USAvengers, but I did like his Mighty Avengers stuff) and the majority-female, majority-PoC cast also gets diversity points from me.
All in all, it's my favorite Marvel output since early Fraction Hawkeye. If you're a fan of Starlin's mind-bending cosmic stuff, or Hickman's recent New Avengers epic -to which the book acts as a spiritual successor, you'll almost certainly enjoy.
Cheese wrote: "Bz this is brand new and not associated with the ultimate universe."
Oh wow, am I out of the loop. LOL.
Oh wow, am I out of the loop. LOL.


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