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Cheese wrote: "Has anyone read the master edition of locke and key volume 1?I notice they have cut out some scenes from it that were originally published that are maybe to much for some readers. Pisses me off. ..."
I have it... what particular pages were cut?
Bruno wrote: "Cheese wrote: "Has anyone read the master edition of locke and key volume 1?I notice they have cut out some scenes from it that were originally published that are maybe to much for some readers. ..."
The blowjob scene in the truck! :D
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Weird that they would cut form a premium hardcover not exactly an edition one would purchase for a child. I own the set and I do not think that anything is missing from the story continuity
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just added avengers omnibus by Stan Lee vol 1 and 2 as well as Hickman fantastic four vol 2 and Thor vol 2
Relstuart wrote: "I have the Master Editions of Locke and Key as well. I hadn't heard anything about scenes being removed. Odd choice to do that from this collection but perhaps they were looking at perhaps seeing a..."Just check if in book one there is the "The blowjob scene in the truck" (Sam Lesser is involved in this scene)
I do not recall a visual depiction of it but it was definitely implied with the truck driver at the stop as he traveled across country.
I've just checked my master edition: it's in there and is pretty explicit. I've not read the originals, buy I'd be surprised if this was the censored version.There's a blowjobless scene of Sam in the back of a truck in one of the earlier issues, maybe that's thrown you off.
I also remember it being implied, but I don't know if the original is more explicit. Couldn't find info on the change by googling. Word to the wise; googling "Locke and Key blowjob scene" produces a lot of images unrelated to Locke and Key.
Haha. In the master edition you see the driver pushing Sam's head onto his crotch as he lets out an "Aaaahhh yeah!". I think any more than that would be a little too jarring for this title.
This scene is cut from my master edition:
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FYI. The East of West Deluxe V2 variant cover is up for sale now.
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I also ordered Velvet, the variant cover of East of West, and Judge Dredd Dark Justice HC.
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Still looking for or did you already have Hickman FF V1?
Received my east of west 2 today.
Cheese wrote: "This scene is cut from my master edition:"
Weird, it's in my master edition. Could be a regional thing; I'm in UK.
Just ordered Invisibles Deluxe 2-4, Velvet Deluxe, Swamp Thing Snyder Deluxe. That'll keep me busy : )
What page and isbn ooh? I recal it and am Canada I will cross reference. I think it is around pg125?
Ooh_jim wrote: "Cheese wrote: "This scene is cut from my master edition:"
Weird, it's in my master edition. Could be a regional thing; I'm in UK."
I'm UK too, weird.
Cheese, is there another scene in its place? I would think that if it were removed there would need to be something in that space of the page.
Dustin wrote: "What page and isbn ooh? I recal it and am Canada I will cross reference. I think it is around pg125?"ISBN 13: 978-1631402241. There book pages aren't numbered, but it's the 3rd page after the Welcome to Lovecraft #4 title.
Re: Locke and Key. My Master edition still has the scene.
Reece wrote: "Cheese, is there another scene in its place? I would think that if it were removed there would need to be something in that space of the page."Nope, seem it's just missing. Everyone else has it :(
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I decided to play the IST damaged sale lottery to try out a couple things on the cheap side. I ordered Empty Zone TPB 1, Thief of Thieves TPB vol 1, I Kill Giants TPB, and Hack Slash omnibus TPB vol 1, and a Spawn book. I'm not as concerned with condition on TPB volumes. :) I noticed all four of the Goon Library editions have damaged copies available.
There are a few good deals out there but it's probably a good idea to check Amazon on them before ordering because there was at least one damaged book on IST that it is cheaper to buy new from Amazon.
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I decided to play the IST damaged sale..."
I asked IST if they would substitute LandK Master HC V2 but that is out of stock as well. I think I'm going to take that as a sign and hold off on the series. Lots of other stuff coming out next week anyway.
Just got all 5 y last man deluxe used unread for 80 Cdn not too bad
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I say ridiculous because although I haven't heard anything official, I'm sure that sucker is going to be reprinted sometime between the two IG movies coming out.
After selling off some of my favorite Grant Morrison books that had long been trapped in fugly DC formats, most with cheap-ass pulp-stock I don't want soiling my shelves with their crappiness, I revitalized the Grant Morrison collection, adding to the OHC versions I already have:-'The Invisibles Omnibus'
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-'Doom Patrol Omnibus'
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>2800 pages of Morrison lunacy between them, +
The Morrison-Quitely Alliance:
-'JLA: Earth 2 - OHC'
-'Flex Mentallo - OHC'
-'We3 - OHC'
-'Absolute All-Star Superman'
And the other big ones:
-'The Filth - OHC'
-'Nameless - OHC'
-'Seven Soldiers of Victory: Books 1 & 2 - DlxHC'
-'Final Crisis - DlxHC'
Next Up:
-'Animal Man - Omnibus' (If I can find a copy...)
-'The Multiversity - OHC'
-'New X-Men - Omnibus
-'Absolute Batman & Robin: Vol. 1 & 2'
Also:
-'Arkwright Integral - Omnibus' by Bryan Talbot.
-'The Art of Jock - OHC'
-'Moebius: Blueberry Original Art AE - Mister Blueberry' - OSC - 12" x 16"
-'Moebius: Blueberry Original Art AE - Ombres sur Tombstone' - OSC - 12" x 16"
-'Moebius: Blueberry Original Art AE - Geronimo L'Apache' - OSC - 12" x 16"
-'Moebius: Blueberry Original Art AE - O.K. Corral' - OSC - 12" x 16"
[Great books - Not true facsimiles, because judging by the detailed art, Moebius probably used 15" x 20" artboards, at the least. But the scans are ultra-high resolution, so they're worth the price.]
-'Herge Feuilleton: Integrale 1950 -1958 - Omnibus'
-'Edgar P. Jacobs' Blake et Mortimer: Integrale (T.01-12) - Omnibus'
[The biggest disappointment of the year: I was excited for this book, which collects all 12 of EP Jacobs' classic Blake & Mortimer albums in one thick, 760-page HC, at a good 9 x 11-inch size. Thick cover, clothbound spine, but the corner was dented, and like a recent Fantagraphics Book, the seams at front and back, where the endpapers join the cover to the block of 760-pages, were completely torn away. The cover was hanging on by the signature webbing, and flopping around.
Just as bad, unfortunately, was the materials used. Even if it wasn't damaged, I don't know if I'd have kept it. Compared to the Herge Integral Omnibus collection, which gathered 3 complete Tintin albums - as originally serialized - with a Jo, Zette & Jocko album, and the hundreds of covers, illustrations and ads that Herge created between 1950-1958, it's clear that one book claimed to be a deluxe archival hardcover, and the other actually WAS one. The Herge binding was odd, but the paper was thick, coated, semi-gloss, and acid-free. The Blake & Mortimer Omnibus, on the other hand, which I paid 160$ for, not including shipping, was 760 pages of fucking newsprint. Literally. The paper showed a pulpy grain that indicated an acid content, and even though it came sealed in plastic, it was already starting to yellow. The colors from the verso side showed through clearly. And I thought DC was cheap... The Planetary Omnibus was less than 1/2 its price, bigger, and a bit longer, with coated archival stock.]
The 160$ Blake & Mortimer Omnibus; I think the flimsy pulp paper contributed to the fragility of the binding; you can see how cheap the paper is in the 2nd pic; with art from the next page bleeding through. 760 pages of fucking newsprint, for 160$:
Looking at the Invisibles Omnibus, Doom Patrol Omnibus, and Planetary Omnibus, I'm impressed with the quality of the construction on all three; strong binding with a thick signature and cloth headband, pictorial-board covers instead of the crappy particle board they were using on their 'deluxe' hardcovers for a while, and surprisingly thick, glossy, acid-free, coated paper-stock.
I also picked up the hardcover English copy from Archaia of Cursed Pirate Girl, by Jeremy Bastian. The design is very cool, made to look like a vintage HC with rough-cut paper. But the artwork is so astounding, I would have preferred they went larger and used better paper... Bastian's style is incredibly detailed, reminiscent of Frank Quitely, Tony Millionaire's Sock Monkey, Gary Gianni, and the editorial illustrations of Winsor McCay. I ended up buying the two-volume over-sized deluxe hardcover editions collecting the same material, just to get a better look at Bastian's art; it starts off impressively, but gets more detailed and ambitious as it goes.
Jeremy Bastian's art from 'Cursed Pirate Girl':
Also: two new Artist's Editions: the 1.) 'The Best of America's Best Comics AE' and 2.) 'Alex Toth's Bravo for Adventure AE'.
'The Best of ABC Comics AE' collects original art from Alan Moore's 'America's Best Comics'; the work I was looking forward to seeing the most is included: JH Williams III's 'Promethea' #10, fully lettered and one of the more self-contained issues. Gene Ha's 'Top 10' issue is NOT lettered, but I've read the story several times, and Ha's art is amazing; I assumed that the insane intricacy of Ha's style would require boards that are larger that 12 x 17-inches, so I was shocked to see that his pages were SMALLER... done on 10.5 x 14.75-inch non-DC art-board. For anyone with the Absolute Top 10, the 9 x 13-inch HC is reprinting Gene Ha's art at 85% of the original art's dimensions.
From 'The Best of ABC Comics' - JH Williams III 'Promethea' pages:
From 'The Best of America's Best Comics AE' - Gene Ha:
But with the exception of JH Williams III, the best art in The Best of ABC comes from an artist who I never associated with ABC. While the big names get a full 25-page issue reprinted each - Chris Sprouse's finished pencils on Tom Strong, JH Williams fully-inked brilliance on 'Promethea', and Gene Ha's hyper-detailed brushwork on 'Top 10' - it's actually artist's who contributed to the anthologies 'Tomorrow Stories' and 'Tom Strong's Terrific Tales' who get the most page space, and deservedly so; the under-rated artist's-artist Arthur Adams gets 48 pages to display the complete original art for his 8-pager from the latter anthology, and it's absolutely stunning. The level of detail on the fully inked and lettered stories by Arthur Adams are worth the price alone, IMO. If there are any art-books or omnibuses(ae) collecting Adams work, I'd love to know about it.
From 'The Best of ABC Comics': Arthur Adams, stealing the show with his complete original art on 'Jonni Future' (random interesting note: 1st cover is signed/dated Sept. 11/2001):
The other artist who gets 40+ pages is also an artist's-artist, Kevin Nowlan, collecting the original art for his Eisner-winning 'Jack B. Quick' stories and covers. Having all these stories reprinted at full size is fantastic, fully lettered, showing off Nowlan's art and the reason he's considered one of the best inkers in comics.
From 'The Best of ABC Comics': Adams' co-conspirator, Kevin Nowlan, stealing the attention with his art on the brilliant 'Jack B. Quick' stories:
The one glaring exception is the ABC flagship title, 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'. Fortunately, every page of original art from Volume 1 was included in 'Kevin O'Neill's League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Vol. 1 - Gallery Edition', published by Graphitti Design, one of my favorites in the 12" x 17" size.
The Alex Toth Bravo for Adventure AE is awesome. For people who think Alex Toth belongs to the Top 5 artistic elite in comics, with Winsor McCay, Hal Foster, Milt Caniff, and Alex Raymond, this book will melt your face off. But gently, and in a manner which is inexplicably pleasant.
Alex Fuckin' Toth:
If you're not an Alex Toth fan, there's an easy fix for that: read the 3-volume OHC set from IDW & Library of American Comics; this series won multiple Eisner and Harvey awards, and each volume is 10 x 13 inches & 300-400 pages:
Once you've read those, the Toth Bravo for Adventure AE is a must buy.
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How is the Starstruck IDW book?
Nice stack! Wow! So you definitely like the Invisibles Omni over the Deluxes? I just bought all the Deluxes and they're okay, it's Vertigo.
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Knightfall is probably worth getting.
My Panini press X-Men omnis arrives that I picked up for about 35% of what the US versions go for. Unfortunately, the post office opened it and sealed it with rubber bands and left a crease on Vol 1 that is pretty intense. Vol 2 has a different cover than the US version so it matches Vol 1 which is cool I think. Also, they are matted instead of glossy which I've never seen on a Marvel omni and looks awesome (not sure if the US versions are also matted). Photo attached: https://www.goodreads.com/photo/group...
Ugh stupid USPS. I would lodge a complaint personally.
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I too would complain to the USPS. You may at least get a little money back.
Yeah, I'll give it a shot, either way glad I have it. Now I basically just need Inferno to complete Claremont's run but I'm waiting to start the Mutant Massacre and everything after until after Uncanny 4 comes out. Hopefully next year!
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Relstuart wrote: "Nice additions to the collection. :) I do think the Earth 2 Morrison story may also be collected in the JLA OHCs covering his run. How is the Starstruck IDW book?"
Thanks Rel. The Starstruck OHC is beautifully done, with the heavy binding and thick, glossy paper-stock you'd expect; it's nicely oversized, too, at 9" x 12" and 400 pages.
The Michael Wm. Kaluta Starstruck Artist's Edition was just released about a week ago, collecting the original art for the first Starstruck book, which I'm excited to pick up. Kaluta's art-boards are almost as large as the full 15 x 22-inch boards from the 1940's and 50's, and his meticulous, almost delicate line-work looks better without the digital colors. The pages are Kaluta's finished inks over his pencils, with finished lettering, so it reads like the regular version, blown up to 15 x 20-inches and 144 pages.
Donovan wrote: "Nice stack! Wow! So you definitely like the Invisibles Omni over the Deluxes? I just bought all the Deluxes and they're okay, it's Vertigo."Thanks Donovan. :) I wouldn't say the Invisibles Omnibus is better than the deluxe editions; having the complete set of hardcovers is a great way to read the series, and more comfortable to read than the gigantic 1600 page behemoth. They're the same 8 x 11-inch format, and they look great on the shelf and off, with the amazing Brian Bolland art on the dust jackets. It's a personal preference, I guess. I'm a fan of the omnibus format when they're done well, and I'd seen enough reviews to know that as inconsistent as DC tends to be, the Grant Morrison omnibus (and OHC) editions are very nicely done.
I still consider Big Damn Sin City to be the gold standard omnibus, quality wise, with great paper-stock and binding; but I was surprised to find that The Invisibles Omni and Doom Patrol Omni were just as thick... BDSC was 3 1/4" thick, and they were both 3 1/8" thick, though The Invisibles has a larger page-count. I'm guessing, but I think the reason that Morrison's OHC's are as nice as they are lately is because Morrison himself has insisted on it. So yeah, I love the omnibus, but if it were out of print, I wouldn't hesitate to go with the Invisibles Deluxe HC's instead.
Cool! Thanks for the info. Yeah I figure I already own (or will once my order shows up) all four Deluxes. They're definitely on the better side of Vertigo hardcovers with thicker semi-gloss paper, no real gutter loss for glued binding, solid albeit cheap covers, and the jackets and issue covers are great. I do like the idea of an omnibus, everything in one book. Then I remember it's a 1000 page book and I'm encumbered just reading books like Goon and Fear Agent Library which are half the length. Then again, I also wouldn't mind owning both. Maybe I'll pick it up if I've got some extra cash. I do plan on buying my first DC omnibuses (which I've heard terrible things about) soon with Batman and Robin and possible Knightfall, so those'll help me break the ice. Thanks again!
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For Batman Absolutes, I think Long Halloween and Hush are nearly mandatory for any Batman collection. :)
Starstuck does look great but if Amazon prices are in range of what this book goes for it's probably off the table for me.
I just got in Brubaker's Velvet and Hickman's East of West vol 2 HC. Both very nice looking books. For those that weren't sure they liked East of West reading the first book the second book is going to be very similar in that the main character is the story. Art remains just as good as ever. A fair bit of philosophical musing from several characters about how the world works. Interesting that some of it probably reflects Hickman's thoughts on some things but some of it is probably just there for particular characters.
Thanks, Rel. You mean Gotham Central right? I've read the first two HCs and it's great. The omnibus is on my radar, as is Long Halloween and Hush, which are both in my top 10 Bat books.
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Yes sir, Gotham Central is correct versus Gotham City. Though perhaps that would be a good name for a sequel. :)
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I notice they have cut out some scenes from it that were originally published that are maybe to much for some readers. Pisses me off. That's what gave its chilling sense of power for me.