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Gone with the Wind
GONE WITH THE WIND - June 2020
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I alternately hate and respect Scarlett. I always forget she's only 16 when this starts so some of her behavior is down to being young, but she's fairly loathesome when it comes to behavior and treatment of others. I respect her nonconformity, but she's mean, vain, self absorbed, and rather stupid intellectually. She's clever, don't get me wrong, but that's different from being smart. She can't grasp why Ashley would say they aren't compatible when it's obvious to everyone but her WHY they aren't. I feel like the movie does Ashley dirty since he really does get the fact you can be attracted to someone without being compatible. It's obvious from the beginning that she doesn't and will never understand Ashley. Meanwhile she and Rhett instantly have a moment of game recognizing game when it comes to their scheming and straightforward natures.
I do have some issues with every male character falling all over themselves for everything Scarlett does. I just find that a bit of a stretch.


My initial thought is that Scarlett is a pampered, spoiled, headstrong girl, but I also feel a bit sorry for her because she has to conform to the cultural norm.
The text states, "Large numbers of books always depressed her, as did people who liked to read large numbers of books. That is - all people except Ashley." She truly didn't comprehend how different she and Ashley were.


At first I keep reminding myself that Scarlett is very young and spoiled but then I really began to dislike her. I deplore how she married poor Charles just to spite everyone else. He was so naive and she took advantage of that, didn't she? Then the poor guy dies from illness not war wounds. He was not only cheated out of love, he was cheated out of becoming a war hero.
I am looking forward to reading more about Scarlett and the rascally Rhett.

In terms of Scarlett, she behaves like the self-centered girl that she is: she loves attention (especially from males), is jealous when other girls get attention, and expects to get her own way without question. She’s not a very likable character in many ways, but thankfully she has LOTS of pages left to experience some much-needed personal growth.

I guess I’m one of the only people that really like Scarlett, the character. In real life, we wouldn’t be particularly bosom buddies. However, I find her spunk kind of refreshing. Shes living in a man’s world and is using what is available, like family connections and her femininity, to her to get her way (even if she doesn’t really want those things). I think Scarlett is a decent representation of lots of people. Maybe not in the exact same way, per se, but in this incessant longing to be liked, to be accepted, to feel powerful or important (in whatever manifestation) without acknowledging the selfishness (vanity) and manipulation employed to get there. I’m very much looking forward to her growth and hopefully maturity. (As for not caring about her son, that’s really sad but I’m sure not super uncommon if you had a slave to care for the kid or even in more recent times servants/governesses.)
I also really love Scarlett’s dad. The patriarch of most books, provided they aren’t a complete dill weed, is usually one of my favorite characters. I’m a sucker for the father-daughter relationship.
Was I the only one who gasped after the two lines of text that was like ‘Scarlett and Charles got married and two months later she was a widow.’ (Obvi a complete paraphrase) but I was like WOW THAT WAS FAST!! 🤣

I guess I’m one of the only people that really like Scarlet..."
Leslie, I don't think Scarlett liked her son because she that baby wasn't conceived in love, He was probably just a reminder of that.


The book really does seem to glorify the "old days". Everyone happy with their lot in life. But that is the point of view, totally different story if through someone else's eyes. I don't know enough American history to know how historically accurate it is.
I am not a fan of Scarlett so far. She's mean. That goes back to the history, is she a rebel for her time? Or just selfish and nasty?
On a side note, the copy I am reading is from my mom's book club. Which she was in during the 1970s.
I looked up the audiobook, it's 50 hours.

I forgot to stop in a comment after reading this first part. Like many of you I am finding myself annoyed at Scarlett. She's a dynamic character for sure, but oh so selfish. I'm not her fan at this point. She has deliberately done things just to spite other women in her life and that's just despicable to me. Poor Charles. I also see the movie playing in my head while reading even though it's been decades since I've seen it!
I know that this book is a product of it's time, but I still find myself cringing all the time. It's very interesting reading it through a 2020 lens than when I was so much younger. Good to know I've grown.
I know that this book is a product of it's time, but I still find myself cringing all the time. It's very interesting reading it through a 2020 lens than when I was so much younger. Good to know I've grown.

I also love to read about all the things where with the education we have today we can just shake our head at what seemed to be appropriate back then. I think it is a very good piece of work to try and understand the mindframe and setting that people navigated in back then and even if we find it disgusting, it helps understand the change that is still needed by being confronted with these extreme views and values.
It's times when Scarlett thinks about Ashley that I am always taken aback but when remembering how young she is, it feels so right and appropriate. Compared to all these newer novels with instalove of young people pouring out of them ... which is really annoying ... I feel like this actually represents how delusional 16 year old girls in love can be. Remembering back, I think a lot of my friends and myself were absolutely closer to Scarletts way of thinking about love and delusional explanations and logic when it comes to Ashley than we would like to admit.

Cornelia, I am so glad you expressed how young Scarlett was. I have been thinking the same thing. I think a lot of people judge her too harshly. She was only 16 and at that age a lot of young girls are very self-centered (but Scarlett went a little overboard with herself). In my day, we would have called Scarlett "boy crazy."
What are your thoughts about Part 1?
How do you think current events might affect your reading of this book?
What are your initial thoughts about Scarlet O'Hara?
How do you like the writing style/pacing/etc?
This book was originally written in 1936. How does the time it was written affect how it was written and how we read it?