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Mods of this group are promoting Piracy? Such a Shame.
Kevin wrote: "Mods of this group are promoting Piracy? Such a Shame."I am not a mod, but Internet Archive is NOT piracy, but a library (part of it is literally called the Open Library). It has been declared "legal under copyright's fair use doctrine" [source]. Here's some further reading if you're interested:
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/23/2129387...
https://www.npr.org/2020/06/03/868861...
Internet Archive is a non-profit organization whose only goal is to provide everyone with books, especially now, when many people cannot or will not go to the library.
Really? Simone now you too. See this please: The Guardian Article. I am very surprised to see that you are doing exactly what many supporters of the archive are doing. I agree that what the archive is doing is a great thing. They and their WayBack Machine are awesome. It really is incredible. But this site does suffer from the ill effects of piracy too. People are bad sometimes. So, do you really claim that the above mentioned sites that had the books available were sanctioned by the authors? This is what you claim.
Kevin wrote: "Really? Simone now you too. See this please: The Guardian Article. I am very surprised to see that you are doing exactly what many supporters of the archive are doing. I agree that what the archiv..."
Might I remind you that in multiple court cases they have been declared legal? The creators bought those books, scanned them, and uploaded them to a library for free. They are not reselling those books without permission; it is literally a library. Do you claim that every single library is asking for permission from the publishers and authors?
Heyyyy: It is a draw. I win more and thus officially I win but I lose some too. So, here is what I see: I just saw the [Source] page. And I have to say I am super surprised! But still I win.
The First Page Cinder was uploaded by a bad person. Sabal1234. And as you can see he is not affiliated with any library. So victory for me.
The Second Page The Selection is official. I agree. It has the tag Books for People with Disabilities. So you win. Do you want to?
The Third Page If I Stay recently lost something, maybe a lawsuit. So it was removed from the internet. My Victory. I won two. You won one. I win officially. Now how should we procede? I have officially won. The above sites have piracy. You know that. You may not agree but you know that. And I showed proof. So how do we procede?
Kevin wrote: "Heyyyy: It is a draw. I win more and thus officially I win but I lose some too. So, here is what I see: I just saw the [Source] page. And I have to say I am super surprised! But still I win.
The..."
We *proceed by letting it go, because we have both made our arguments, and there's no point in prolonging this. As of now, Internet Archive is legal (maybe that'll change, maybe it won't).
And might I say, it's not me vs. you. I came on Goodreads to talk about books, not discuss the legality of something that doesn't concern me. Truce?
It is a me vs you. Tell me do you still agree that the above sites are not piracy. Do you still promote it?Now, both of you, if you are looking for truce. You should try to consider not attacking next time. You both made personal attacks against me. Apologise for that. Then we could consider a truce.
As for Adela, you should probably consider leaving this group. If you cannot do that, you should at least leave your position as a mod. You were going to abuse that power. You were going to kick me out. And just to let you both know. I was here in this group before both of you and have done more for this group than you could ever do. So give up your position as a mod. This recommendation is official. You were going to abuse your power. Even when it was you who was wrong.
So, both of you, say that you are sorry for personally attacking me. And Adela leave this group. Or at the very least leave your position as a mod.
Kevin wrote: "It is a me vs you. Tell me do you still agree that the above sites are not piracy. Do you still promote it?Now, both of you, if you are looking for truce. You should try to consider not attacking..."
I did not mean for my statements to be taken personally, and I'm sorry if you felt it was an attack on your character. I acknowledge that I was passive aggressive, and, again, I apologize for that.
Adela wrote: "I'm not apologizing for something I didn't do. I never made a "personal attack" on you. Calling that is a bit immature I think. I was giving you a warning because as a mod, it's my job to make sure..."Whatever. I will let the other mods deal with this. Maybe they would be wiser in their judgement. And who said that the personal attack was the one you said to me in the personal message you sent me. That thing was rude because it was meant to be. They caused some authors real damage. Inconsequential but irl damage. And now you are calling me immature.
I do highly suggest making an account for Internet Archive, as the organization does provide many free books and resources!
these books are authorized and safe
Cinder by Marissa Meyer (no account needed)
The Selection by Kiera Cass (Free Account needed to read)
If I Stay by Gayle Forman (Free Account needed to read)