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James Morcan | 11378 comments David wrote: "https://www.vox.com/science-and-healt..."

Odd that Harvard scientists would even put forward the idea it could be alien/ET tho...Not something scientists of that level normally do, if ever...

Mulder would be excited over this, Dave...


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David Elkin | 508 comments “Scully nodded. Of course. It made sense. Complete sense. No question about it. Mulder was perfectly sane in telling her all this. And she was perfectly sane in listening to it and nodding and urging him to tell her more. It was the rest of the world that was-

She doubled over as a wave of laughter hit her.

Mulder looked at her and started laughing too.

They stood there in the cemetery in the darkness and the drizzle, laughing their heads off.

'You know we're crazy,' Scully finally said.

'Of course we are,' Mulder gasped out.”
― Les Martin, X Marks the Spot


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That interstellar object is odd.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Beyond UFOs: The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence

This 820 page book details the academic research findings of the world’s first comprehensive multi-language quantitative and qualitative 5 year academic research study on individuals that have had UFO related contact with Non Human Intelligence (NHI)-- The FREE Experiencer Research Study. Over the last 5 years FREE has collected detailed responses to 3 extensive quantitative and qualitative surveys from over 4,200 individuals from over 100 countries. Our survey findings from these thousands of "Experiencers" contradict much of what is circulating in mainstream materialist Ufology. Our academic book will establish a new paradigm for viewing the UAP (UFO) Contact Phenomenon. FREE argues that "Consciousness" and the paranormal and psychic aspects of this phenomenon is the key to understanding this complex phenomenon instead of the traditional materialist perspective of "nuts & bolt's" Ufology. The Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial and Extraordinary Experiences, or FREE, is a 501c3 Academic Research Not for Profit Foundation. FREE was co-founded by the late Apollo 14 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Dr. Rudy Schild, an Emeritus Research Astronomer at the Harvard/Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics at Harvard University, Australian researcher Mary Rodwell and Rey Hernandez, an Attorney and Experiencer who was a Ph.D. Candidate at the University of California at Berkeley. FREE is comprised of retired academic professors and lay researchers who have been researching the field of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) and contact with Non-Human Intelligence (NHI) for more than 30 years. The Executive Director of FREE is Harvard Astrophysicist Dr. Rudy Schild.

Beyond UFOs The Science of Consciousness & Contact with Non Human Intelligence by Reinerio Hernandez


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Peter wrote: "That interstellar object is odd."

It certainly is...Listen to the audio here where the Harvard scientist says it is possibly it's "artificially made by another civilization"... https://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...

OUMUAMUA: SCIENTIST WHO SUGGESTED STRANGE SPACE ROCK COULD BE ALIEN SPACECRAFT SPEAKS OUT https://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...

The Harvard scientists who suggested a piece of space rock might actually be an alien spacecraft flying past Earth says the strange visitor "doesn't look like anything we've seen before".

Astronomer Avi Loeb kicked off international intrigue when he co-authored a paper that suggested Oumuamua, which flew past Earth last year, could have been a probe sent by aliens from deep in space to survey Earth. The research explored the unexpected movement of the rock and suggested that it could be a "lightsail", which was sent intentionally by aliens to investigate Earth.

But even if the rock has a natural origin then it is incredibly strange, Professor Loeb told the Today programme. It has a strange shape, doesn't show the characteristics usually observed in comets and asteroids, and is flying through space in a way that scientists wouldn't expect it to, he said.

"Most intriguingly it's moving on a trajectory that implies an extra push in addition to the gravitational force from the sun," he said. "There seems to be another force acting on it."

It is that strange behaviour that led Professor Loeb and a colleague to speculate that the rock could have been thrown out by some explosion, deep in space, from an extraterrestrial civilisation. They even suggested that the object could be a probe intentionally sent through space.

It makes the object fascinating to scientists wherever it came from, he said.

"It's the very first interstellar object that we discovered in the solar system, passing near the earth," he said. "And it's sort of like having a guest for dinner and realising that out of the other guests you have this one is from a foreign country and you can learn about the culture in that country without paying the airline ticket to go there."

Ultimately it will be very difficult to find out more about Oumuamua, because it has flown quickly out of the solar system and away from view. He said he hoped that we would have been able to chase it down – we currently lack the technology to fly fast enough to do so, but that within a decade or two we should be have those kind of rockets.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments What little we know of Oumuamua is that it did follow a trajectory, it made no attempt to reorient itself, it had no obvious mechanism to transmit signals, it did not emit volatiles like a comet, it had striations typical of something laid down in layers, in other words it appeared to behave like a very large rock that had been sent into interstellar space at quite some velocity. Now it could have been an alien ship in disguise but the simplest explanation is it was a very large fragment of rock. There was no evidence at all that it was a light sail. Unless there was a very powerful light source, its inertia would be simply ridiculously large; if there were such a source, than its energy would have left obvious markings on it. Also, with that shape, the light would have to strike in line with the centre of mass, or it would merely effect it, and when it was out of the light beam, sorry, no bananas.

My guess is it was an asteroid fragment thrown out of some solar system after a massive collision, followed by a massive gravitational interaction. We have evidence that Jupiter-sized planets have been booted out of a solar system - a lump of rock from an asteroid collision would be easier.


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Rita Louise | 2 comments Myth is full of stories of strange beings, mysterious but magnificent technology all carried out by a race of beings that came to the earth from the sky. While the stories do not say extraterrestrial or alien, it is not a huge leap to substitute those words for "gods". All one need do is open themselves up to the concept that the stories that come to use through myth have a basis in our history.

https://soulhealer.com/store/man-made...

https://soulhealer.com/stepping-out-o...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Here's the Truth Behind a NASA Document on Aliens Visiting Earth https://www.livescience.com/64237-nas...


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Faith Jones (havingfaith) Can someone send me a copy of this book (mobi format), so I can review it on my sci-fi blog? Thanks.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Return to Magonia: Investigating UFOs in History

THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF UFOs

People have always been fascinated by lights in the sky. Early astronomers and astrologers, medieval pamphleteers, scientists, navigators, and weather observers, all recorded sightings of strange phenomena. The question is: Were these the same as our modern UFOs?


The authors of Return to Magnolia have taken a serious, critical look at some of those sightings. Using modern resources and tools, they dissect more than 20 fascinating cases from the last 500 years, showing that reality can be more interesting than any popular catch-all theory. They discover that UFOs in history are as intriguing, as entertaining, and often as baffling as they are today.


In this unique and challenging book you will read about:
• the flat "plate" seen over a 17th-century Swedish city, leaving witnesses stricken with an unknown sickness;
• a fiery object that landed beside a road in Ohio, piloted by a mysterious man in black;
• a weird blue ball of fire that devastated a British navy ship;
• the Minnesota doctor who saw a disk of "electric" light floating across the fields;
• and a formation of locomotive-sized "eggs" that descended on an Australian town shortly after World War II.


Combining science, history, and a broad knowledge of the UFO field, Martin Shough and Chris Aubeck set a new standard for UFO research and shed light on one of the oldest recorded mysteries in human experience.


CHRIS AUBECK is the founder of the historical research group Magonia Exchange, an international archival project, and the co-author (with Jacques Vallee) of Wonders in the Sky.


MARTIN SHOUGH is a Research Associate for National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP).

Return to Magonia Investigating UFOs in History by Chris Aubeck


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David Elkin | 508 comments About Generals and little Green men: https://gizadeathstar.com/2018/12/rem...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments X-Files Cases https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2...

Former national security investigator for the US government, John DeSouza is a researcher and experiencer of paranormal and spiritual phenomena. In the latter half, he shared details about X-files-type cases which were previously off-limits. DeSouza recently returned from speaking at conferences on ufology and consciousness held in China, where he said there is burgeoning interest and a new openness in the country around such topics. He characterized one FBI document as a "smoking gun," in which an agent described an informant as a "supernormal" (possibly an ET). The informant said that alien visitors come from other dimensions (rather than planets) and change their vibration to match our physical realm.

The alien interactions on Earth, DeSouza has concluded, are not part of a uniform agenda and run the gamut from benevolent to malevolent. He believes that alien abductions are on the increase, and suggested that the disturbing number of unexplained disappearances each year (around 33,000 people in the US) may be connected. While working for the FBI, he investigated a case involving poltergeist activity at a mid-sized prison. Closed circuit TV captured footage of certain cell doors opening and closing on their own. Eventually, it was discovered that the ghost of a deceased prison deputy (who was murdered by prisoners attempting to escape) helped save a corrections officer who was being attacked in a new escape plot. The spirit of the deputy may have triggered the poltergeist activity, once he learned what the prisoners were planning, DeSouza surmised.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Joe Rogan interviews Sir Roger Penrose - Do Aliens Exist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwVA...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments From Coast to Coast:

Some potential new pieces to the puzzle of fast radio bursts (FRBs) have been produced by a sophisticated telescope in Canada that detected a whopping 13 new occurrences of the mysterious phenomenon. The incredibly brief, but enormously powerful pulses emanating from somewhere in space have perplexed astronomers since first being spotted in 2007. Upon the discovery of the first FRB, scientists set about trying to solve the mystery and, in recent years, projects dedicated to searching for more of them have resulted in the number of documented bursts steadily increasing.

This brings us to a newly-published paper which details the discoveries of a radio telescope in Canada that reportedly picked up 13 FRBs during a scan of space this past summer. Increasing the total number of bursts detected so far to be around 70, the newfound FRBs may not merely be more fodder for the maddening scientific mystery, however, as these particular pulses differ slightly from those previously recorded. One assumes, therefore, that comparison between the different types of bursts found to date may yield some kind of clue or, at least, new questions about the phenomenon for astronomers to ask.

But by far the most exciting aspect of this latest development in the quest to get to the bottom of FRBs is that, among the 13 new pulses detected, astronomers discovered only the second repeating burst ever observed. And with the Canadian project only having just begun this past summer, it is hoped that they'll eventually be able to pick up more FRBs coming from that specific source in the same way that scientists have culled from the previously discovered repeating burst.

With a number of research projects around the world working on the FRB mystery, it stands to reason that the tally of detected bursts will continue to grow by leaps and bounds over the next few years. To that end, one suspects that the eventual wealth of data on the phenomenon will ultimately and unfortunately, for UFO enthusiasts, produce a prosaic answer to the mystery. Until then, though, we can still hold on to some hope, since the FRB-ET hypothesis appears to still be in play for now.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Astronomer Doubles Down on Oumuamua Alien Theory https://www.coasttocoastam.com/articl...

A Harvard astronomer who sparked headlines last November when he theorized that the mysterious interstellar object known as Oumuamua could be alien in nature is defending his fantastic hypothesis in the face of critics. Avi Loeb, who chairs the Astronomy Department at the prestigious university, argued that the puzzling object, which was first discovered in the autumn of 2017, might possibly be some kind of ET probe, specifically one that is powered by a light sail. They based this reasoning on Oumuamua's odd shape and how it seemed to accelerate as it departed our solar system.

Upon the publication of their paper, the astronomers' hypothesis was largely lambasted by their colleagues in the astronomical community. However, in a recent interview with an Israeli newspaper, Loeb reportedly doubled down on the ET theory and actually took it even further. Regarding his critics, a defiant Loeb declared that "I don't care what people say" and mused that "science isn't like politics: It is not based on popularity polls." He went on to posit that if Oumuamua was made by an ET civilization, it stands to reason that "its creators launched a quadrillion probes like it to every star in the Milky Way."

To that end, he shared some rather remarkable thoughts about the possibility of finding alien artifacts in deep space. "As soon as we leave the solar system, I believe we will see a great deal of traffic out there," he said, suggesting that a vast array of ET objects, both active and 'dead' are waiting to be found. As such, he proposed taking an altogether different approach in the search for alien life. "In the same way we dig in the ground to find cultures that no longer exist," he said, "we must dig in space in order to discover civilizations that existed outside the planet Earth.”


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Jim (jimliedeka) This is a bit of a long read but worth it. The post addresses a lot of issues, so many that I wasn't sure which thread to post it in.

A Faerie Taxonomy
https://deadbutdreaming.wordpress.com...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Is a space alien AI visiting us? https://www.zdnet.com/video/is-a-spac...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Why the idea of alien life now seems inevitable and possibly imminent https://theconversation.com/why-the-i...

Extraterrestrial life, that familiar science-fiction trope, that kitschy fantasy, that CGI nightmare, has become a matter of serious discussion, a “risk factor”, a “scenario”.

How has ET gone from sci-fi fairytale to a serious scientific endeavour modelled by macroeconomists, funded by fiscal conservatives and discussed by theologians?

Because, following a string of remarkable discoveries over the past two decades, the idea of alien life is not as far-fetched as it used to seem.

Discovery now seems inevitable and possibly imminent.

FULL ARTICLE HERE: https://theconversation.com/why-the-i...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments WHY FANTASY-BASED CLAIMS ALWAYS CRASH & BURN. Richard Dolan The Big Picture. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv8jN...

Richard Dolan
Streamed live 7 hours ago

The UFO subject is inherently difficult. Assessing the evidence is often a challenge, but one that is necessary. An all-too-common pitfall of the subject is its vulnerability to claims based on fantasy. We can do better.

Richard Dolan is one of the world’s leading researchers and writers on the subject of UFOs and believes that they constitute the greatest mystery of our time. He is the author of two volumes of history, UFOs and the National Security State, both ground-breaking works which together provide the most factually complete and accessible narrative of the UFO subject available anywhere. He also co-authored a speculative book about the future, A.D. After Disclosure, the first-ever analysis not only of how UFO secrecy might end, but of the all-important question: what happens next?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv8jN...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Fairies, Aliens and Demons - Common Evolving Archetypes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCwQg...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments John Keel Fortean Lecture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYNk...
John Keel discusses the hallucinatory and paranormal aspects of the UFO phenomenon.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments I’m Convinced We Found Evidence of Life on Mars in the 1970s https://exonews.org/im-convinced-we-f...

On NASA’s 1976 Viking mission to Mars, NASA dispatched the ‘Labeled Release’ (LR) experiment to detect life on the red planet. On July 30, 1976, the LR returned its initial results from Mars with four positive results, supported by five varied controls, streamed down from the twin Viking spacecraft that landed some 4,000 miles apart. Engineer Gilbert Levin was the principal investigator for the LR experiment.

• According to Levin, the data curves signaled the detection of microbial respiration similar to those produced by LR tests of soils on Earth. But the Viking’s Molecular Analysis Experiment failed to detect organic matter, so NASA concluded that the LR had found a substance mimicking life, but not really life. Since then, none of NASA’s Mars landers have carried a life detection instrument to follow up on these initial results. Over the past 43 years, NASA has instead launched a series of missions to Mars to determine whether there was ever a habitat suitable for life, but not to detect life itself already there.

• NASA maintains that the search for alien life is among its highest priorities. Mars could even hold life that came via ejecta from the Earth . Laboratory experiments have proven that microbial species could survive the Martian environment. Indeed, microorganisms have been found to survive in naked space outside of the International Space Station.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Who or what are aliens? Are ETs real, fictional, interdimensional beings, paranormal apparitions, AI robots, or "all of the above"??

I still think: ALL OF THE ABOVE


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James Morcan | 11378 comments An anthropological look at the UFO community, told through first-person experiences with researchers in their element as they pursue what they see as a solvable mystery—both terrestrial and cosmic.

They Are Already Here: UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers

They Are Already Here UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers by Sarah Scoles


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Mark | 78 comments I can't help but get a "Men In Black" feeling from most of it, not that that's a bad thing.


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Mark wrote: "I can't help but get a "Men In Black" feeling from most of it, not that that's a bad thing."

bad movie but good concept


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Ancient Aliens: The Nine Forces from Beyond (Season 11) | History https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioFyX...


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James Morcan | 11378 comments George Knapp Presents Joe Rogan With Government Documents on Alien Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9okZG...


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Bruce Fenton | 34 comments Did you catch the discussion of alien engineering humans at around 1:46?

If only Rogan knew about my book!


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James Morcan | 11378 comments Grandmother captures image of 'demon' standing over her granddaughter's bed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBDB2...


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Ian Miller | 1422 comments Weird. Leaving aside the image, why was the camera there in the first place?


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