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Sep 17, 2020 10:33AM
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Tessa wrote: "I'm confused about something. Emma's mom's name was Cordelia, but she was not a Carstairs. Why?"They are aaaaall related. Like the Blackthorns are descendants from Luce Herondale and Jesse AND that Herondale is sister-in-law to a Carstairs. Step to TDA and boom: Carstairs and Blackthorn love.
Move to the Lightwoods, they're full of Herondale genetics and Clary Fairchild looks just like a Branwell and Ty looks different from all of his siblings, probably because he has a spirit and beaking Belial on his family tree (Herondales being able to see spirits and Blackthorns toying with necromancy since forever). The list goes on. Trying to track their geneology is worse than studying European monarchies', specially with all the undead and demons blending in...
So, who cares if they have the same name? Alec's is Alexander Gideon, just like Gabriel's brothers'.
Sorry I got so passionate, this topic just blows my mind.
☀︎El In Oz☀︎ wrote: "Maybe but all the ppl u mentioned aren’t really MC’s in TWP. Plus we will see loads of new ones that could be killed off as well"True. Thank you for this little ray of hope :)
I was thinking about this. All the people that is alive in Thule are dead in the real world and all the people that is dead in the real world are alive in Thule. So, I mean, Raphael is dead in the world but he´s alive in Thule, Lily is dead in Thule but she´s alive in the world, Clary is dead in Thule but she´s alive in the real world, Livvy is dead in the world but she´s dead in Thule... and the same but with others people. So, I think that maybe in TWP all the ones that are alive in both world will be in danger. And if that it´s kinda true (something that I´m not sure cause it´s just a theory) I´m worried about Jace. I think that may there will be an epic battle between Jace and Janus. I´m sorry to bother you guys with my TWP theories, but I just can´t stop thinking about that xd
Eli.Farity wrote: "I was thinking about this. All the people that is alive in Thule are dead in the real world and all the people that is dead in the real world are alive in Thule. So, I mean, Raphael is dead in the ..." Livvy is dead in the world but alive in Thule** sorry xd
this group is all about theories till the books are published haha :) plus, I'm still confused how Jace from Thule is still alive while Sebastian in Thule died. weren't they bound? also, I need to reread, I don't remember if they were still bound in thule
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Beenish wrote: "this group is all about theories till the books are published haha :) plus, I'm still confused how Jace from Thule is still alive while Sebastian in Thule died. weren't they bound? also, I need t..."
In QOAD it is say something about that. Because in Thule runes didn´t work anymore, the rune that bonding them lost his power. And also it´s said that the Endarkened ones they weakened Sebastian. So I guess that kinda affected.
Tessa wrote: "I'm forgetting too, but I'm pretty sure Sebastian isn't dead? Right? Or am I totally forgetting?"Emma killed Thule Sebastian and in Forever Fallen Janus said that he was dead.
haha got it!! the tune not working makes sense
Yeah! the only thing that get me sad it´s that Cassie said that she´s not thinking to much in TWP right now. The waiting get me anxious hahaha. But I understand her.
I was thinking about this theory and I love it! Just imagine Raphael meeting Lily or Raph and Magnus! Or badass Livvy meeting the Blackthorns again. Then, I realised I don't remember what happened to Thule's Simon... help? Could he be unexpected backup for an epic battle against the demons sneaking into our world along with the doppelgangers?Oh, and Tessa! She was there with Church! All the happiness just flew away...
if i remember correctly after clary died in thule, simin disappeared
I do not remember Simon but I do like the idea of badass livvy meeting Blackthorns but I also don't like it? coz she's with Cameron Ashdown and if she comes here he'll come with her and there will be two Cameron's hahaha it's just messed up. I think everyone should stay where they are lol
yeah, but cameron from thule died when the silent city was sealed..
Tbh I hope they don’t cross over bc it’s gonna make them so sad to see another Livbyvafter dealing with the loss of their livbyv
oh Lucy I forgot!!! that's a sign I need to reread tda haha
yes and for Thule livvy to meet ghost livvy. imagine!
i'm not sure if thule livvy will be able to see ghost livvy at all :/
and i agree with El, i think it would be to heartbreaking for the characters if the ones in thule cross ovet
Yeah, Thule´s Simon is missing and maybe we´ll see him in TWP and know why he's disappeared. But in Thule he's still be a vampire. I also agree that it will be so heartbreaking if those who are alive in Thule see again there families, but I think that we´ll see more of Thule in TWP and also something that it´s so cruel for me it´s the fact that Livvy is in the world like a ghost. Personally, i never liked that. I cried so much in TLOW when I readed how dessesperate was Livvy that her family could see her. It´s just so sad and cruel for me that now she´s able to see the ones that she love but can´t be with them. I just hope that is fixed in the next saga
And maybe Thule´s Simon will be important in that saga, cause in Forever Fallen Janus said that the last thing that Simon told him was that he´s gonna kill him. So, who knows?
yeah, that sounds intriguing. why does twp have to come out in 3 years?!
Lucy Tonks wrote: "yeah, that sounds intriguing. why does twp have to come out in 3 years?!""The first book isn’t scheduled yet, but will come after Sword Catcher, the Last Hours, and the second Eldest Curses book. There really isn’t much info about it online because it’s unscheduled, but it’s coming."
this is something that Cassie said 10 months ago, and I personally think that it will be for 2022. It´s a lot of time but she´s working right now in TEC, TLH and her new books Sword Catcher. Also said that she doesn´t want to much work in progress cause then it could affect her. But I think she doesn´t start yet writing the first book of TWP cause it´s doesn´t sold yet to a publisher. Or maybe she did but she doesn´t saying anything yet.
Yeah I don’t mind the wait reallyOMG THAT PART WHERE SHE WAS LIKE SCREAMING AT DRU TO SEE HER MADE ME TEAR UP
I SWEAR I’M STILL SUPER MAD AT TY FOR DOING THAT TO LIVVY I MEAN I GET IT BUT NO
Omgg I agree😭 And like Ty is one of the only few she'll be stuck with leading up to TWP who can see her. That's like so sad and lonely.
@El I KNOW! i actually didn't even want to read when Ty was preparing the spell. And then read like how Livvy was feeling it was so heartbreaking. But I think that Cassie said once that was necessary for the next serie. But I really wanted to her rest in peace.
I agree @El I too get but it just doesn't seem fair to livvy. that lovely young soul. plus she's tethered to him. they can't be far from eachother for long.and even when Ty was like I'll do with it without you Kit, I was sooo feeling for Kit too.
Eli.Farity wrote: "@El I KNOW! i actually didn't even want to read when Ty was preparing the spell. And then read like how Livvy was feeling it was so heartbreaking. But I think that Cassie said once that was necessa..."And then, when she was thinking on her own death and the moment when Annabell stab her and how she was describing the looking of Julian at her before that she collapsed on the ground. I was like NO! PLEASE DON´T DO THAT! my heart just breaked in that moment. Specially cause I remembered how broken was Julian when he was picking up her body. All of that killed me
I knowww!! I was so feeling everything that moment! the way her mouth was an 'O' when she died and Julian was just holding her.
and everything kind of was messed up coz the Clave and the cohort had become so corrupt and Emma couldn't go near Julian. honestly I'd thought Annabel would be a nice character, I had no idea she'd be that evil
Lia wrote: "Omgg I agree😭 And like Ty is one of the only few she'll be stuck with leading up to TWP who can see her. That's like so sad and lonely."Yeees :(
but I think that there´s gonna be more people that´ll able to see her. Some people think that she's going to revive, like Jesse in TLH, but honestly i don't think so. Cause I felt like Cassie already said bye to her. It´s sad cause i know that no one wanted her to be die. I liked her so much in LM and LS :(((
I feel like if Julian had been there for him he probably have talked with him and have stop him. But Julian was under that dumb spell. And Kit just wanted to help him but didn't know how. And I feel the same as you @Beenish I never thought that Anabell was gonna kill her. Inside of me I wanted to believe that she have hope.
yeah, i don't think cassie will revive livvy either. jesse will be revived in tlh so i doubt cassie will revive livvy too. she never does rhe same thing twice
Imagine if the family tree was completely wrong about Jesse & Lucie, and Lucie actually isn't able to resurrect Jesse. That would be a huge twist lol.
i would be so mad if that happens! but we have to take into consideration that jesse is the last blackthorn in 1903 and he has to continue the line so the blackthorns from 2012 exist
True. I hope Jesse & Lucie are endgame and something doesn't happen to change that.
I actually agree about Jesse bing the last Blackthorn but also not coz it's my wishful thinking that Tatiana's husband must have brothers or cousins to continue the Blackthorn line
Lucy Tonks wrote: "yeah, i don't think cassie will revive livvy either. jesse will be revived in tlh so i doubt cassie will revive livvy too. she never does rhe same thing twice"Yeah, and even Cassie told that too, no one like the same story twice .
true but Cassie does seem to have repeated some minor things like putting Clary and Tessa in the Shadowhunter world and both get to know who they are.
I think that is a very important part of life, to get someplace and figure out who you are. It´s something that could happen to anyone. But as you say, she did that but in minor things and personally i don´t care to much about that. I´d care if it would be in major things. Like, make someone to be stab by glorious again or lose your best friend in hands of a crazy vain prince demon (that actually could happen again, but anyway xd).
I agree it doesn't really matter coz I love almost everything about her book and all the characters. Except bloody Aldertree and Zara and Tatiana lol but that's the thing! her writing! love it
Ooh gosh, Zara, i admire Emma so much for have to much autocontrol when she was with her. I mean, if she´d wanted, she´d punched and send her to the basilias for at least a whole year. I still can´t believe how she couldn´t have a shred of dignity, all the lies and the victim role. I can´t with Zara.
Her crazy mind are able to do a lot of things just to demonstrate (idk what she actually want to demonstrate) in TWP. Maybe she´s not the best fighter... or intelligent, but she´s danger.
